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Connolly escapes sanction *** Mod Note Post 2 ***

  • 31-01-2012 9:22pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭


    Connolly escapes sanction

    31 January 2012


    Dublin's Diarmuid Connolly on the attack against Laois during the Leinster SFC quarter-final at Croke Park ©INPHO/James Crombie
    Leinster CCC has decided not to take disciplinary action against Dublin's Diarmuid Connolly.

    The Sky Blues attacker was in the dock after a stray knee appeared to make contact with Kildare full back Ciaran Fitzpatrick's head in an off-the-ball incident during the recent O'Byrne Cup semi-final.

    A retrospective ban looked possible but Leinster chiefs studied footage of the incident last night and have opted not to charge Connolly with any wrong-doing.

    This is the second time in recent months that the St Vincent's clubman has escaped a ban: he was cleared to play in last year's All-Ireland final against Kerry after having his semi-final red card rescinded.

    I know there always a lot of bulls**t on here about how the Dubs always get their way but in this case there's no denying it's one rule for Dublin and another rule for the rest. Do you think if that was someone like Tomás O'Sé or Galvin they would get away with? I doubt it.


Comments

  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Folks,

    Gentle reminder that all posts must adhere to the rules not only of boards but also of this forum, if a mod deems that any post is out of line for any reason bans will be handed out, it is also each posters duty to be aware of the rules.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    By virtue of him "slipping" they can rule it unintentional although it certainly was.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    By virtue of the ruling body in charge of the GAA ruling it as unintentional it can be taken that it was unintentional, opinions don't count towards and suspensions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,921 ✭✭✭Gophur


    Being from Dublin certainly didn't hinder his chances of getting off.

    The incident was ugly and the player deserved a sanction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    lala88 wrote: »
    I know there always a lot of bulls**t on here about how the Dubs always get their way but in this case there's no denying it's one rule for Dublin and another rule for the rest. Do you think if that was someone like Tomás O'Sé or Galvin they would get away with? I doubt it.

    Extremely dangerous allegation to make. Can your mouth write cheques that your ass can't cash?

    For the record, I thought it was intentional and that he should've been punished for it but my opinion (and everyone else's here for that matter) count for diddly squat.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭To Alcohol


    A very poor decision. The GAA cant be trusted to do the right thing. Was hoping they'd start off the year on a positive note, but no of course not.

    Dont think it's worth going into a Dubs v's the rest argument as it takes from the incident itself.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭lala88


    dcr22B wrote: »
    Extremely dangerous allegation to make. Can your mouth write cheques that your ass can't cash?

    For the record, I thought it was intentional and that he should've been punished for it but my opinion (and everyone else's here for that matter) count for diddly squat.

    That comment has nothing to do with the fact your from Dublin does it? Like i said had that been Galvin what would have happened?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I am from Dublin, we haven't exactly been immune from disciplinary injustices in the past.

    I've made myself clear on more than one occasion that I felt it was worthy of punishment but to insist that Dublin players get different treatment to players down the country is total b****xology and highly inflammatory.

    If you can prove it, be my guest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭lala88


    dcr22B wrote: »
    Absolutely nothing to do with the fact that I am from Dublin, we haven't exactly been immune from disciplinary injustices in the past.

    I've made myself clear on more than one occasion that I felt it was worthy of punishment but to insist that Dublin players get different treatment to players down the country is total b****xology and highly inflammatory.

    If you can prove it, be my guest.

    Why so did he get off?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    lala88 wrote: »
    Why so did he get off?

    Did you read your initial post? :rolleyes:

    Leinster chiefs studied footage of the incident last night and have opted not to charge Connolly with any wrong-doing.

    Do you want a further psychoanalysis done on the incident?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,243 ✭✭✭lala88


    dcr22B wrote: »
    Did you read your initial post? :rolleyes:

    Leinster chiefs studied footage of the incident last night and have opted not to charge Connolly with any wrong-doing.

    Do you want a further psychoanalysis done on the incident?

    Yes but the same thing happens with Galvin or Tomas O Se (video footage) and there is always a ban, whats the difference hear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    I suggest you try here:

    Postal Address - Leinster GAA Office, Portlaoise, Co. Laois
    Phone - (057)8682000
    Fax - (057) 8620958/8620398
    E-Mail - info.leinster@gaa.ie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    By the way, you're hardly from Kerry are you?

    **feels persecution complex coming to the fore here**


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭jack67


    yes i agree theres one rule for the dubs and another rule for the rest,tis very unfair:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 975 ✭✭✭J Cheever Loophole


    lala88 wrote: »
    I know there always a lot of bulls**t on here about how the Dubs always get their way but in this case there's no denying it's one rule for Dublin and another rule for the rest. Do you think if that was someone like Tomás O'Sé or Galvin they would get away with? I doubt it.

    Yes - I think you've hit the nail on the head - and you could add Collie Moran to those names as well......oh, wait a minute.....:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭sgarvan


    Collie Moran - Trial by the Sunday Game.

    This Dublin v The rest is a ridicolus arguement. All video footage is reviewed eqaully. From this instance you see Connolly mid air. There is no evidence he wasnt pushed/slipped.

    Also, as a dub, for the record I beleive he should of been punished and is a very very lucky man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,757 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    Connolly was booked for the incident.

    The rules state that the a yellow card cannot be increased to a red card by the GAA/CCCC.

    The GAA could possibly make the argument the yellow was for a separate incident - pushing/jostling in the immediate aftermath, but that would be a difficult argument to make stick.

    So overall the conclusion was the incident was seen by the ref and dealt with by the ref, therefore no further action required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Connolly is a nasty, nasty boy.

    So one incident turns him into a "nasty, nasty boy"? Please don't revert back to the Donegal incident last summer as that was played to death and he shouldn't have been the only one to walk that day (Rory Kavanagh did something just as bad to him but he got off scot free).

    It is really only recently that some Kerry supporters have turned into a right bitter bunch and feel that everyone is against them.

    This thread is going around in circles and achieveing nothing, was it really necessary to have a second thread to discuss the outcome of this incident when it was already been discussed in the per-season tournament thread.

    A lot of Dublin fans accepted that what happened should have constituted a ban but that we couldn't make that decision for the Leinster CCC.

    If Galvin or Ó'Sé had done it, would Kerry fans have condoned it if they had been left off the suspension?

    My one hope to come out of this incident is that Connolly finally learns to keep his petulance in check as he will be targetted by all and sundry now as he must keep his head as sooner or later, it will end up costing us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭AGC


    lala88 wrote: »
    Connolly escapes sanction

    31 January 2012



    I know there always a lot of bulls**t on here about how the Dubs always get their way but in this case there's no denying it's one rule for Dublin and another rule for the rest. Do you think if that was someone like Tomás O'Sé or Galvin they would get away with? I doubt it.

    That is an absolute crazy statement to make.

    As is widely agreed, action should have been taken but it wasn't so he didn't 'get off'

    You could go through every league and championship game, football and hurling, and pull 2-3 incidents that could warrant a suspension/action. The only reason this one came to light is because it was on TV on a quiet weekend of GAA. There was also other incidents in the game that could have been raised.

    If you are from Kerry you have the expert at getting away with things, Donnaghy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Hahahaha, for the record, the OP is a Mayo man.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭Alaska1


    I dont think this can be discussed any longer tbh.

    Connolly is off, case closed

    This thread will turn into a Dublin v the rest thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭hisholinessnb


    I said it elsewhere, innocent until proven guilty, and despite what the angry mob on here say its impossible to "prove" that this was intentional.

    I've seen several arguments going into the direction he was running, how one might naturally fall, etc etc, all stating this is conclusive proof that he is guilty, which is of course nonsense, and thankfully the GAA think the same.

    Maybe he did mean it, but as its impossible to be sure then how could you possibly punish him?

    Whether this would happen to Galvin in the exact same situation is a time wasting hypothetical question.

    The GAA made a sensible decision despite the crowd baying for blood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,386 ✭✭✭✭DDC1990


    Im from Kerry.

    Im not bitter.

    Whatever way Connolly conducts himself on the field, against any team except Kerry, is of no concequence to me.

    However, in this case the GAA f-ed up big style. Its sending out a message that you can get away with a tackle, off the ball, while the opponant is lying prone on the ground, into the head/kneck area, by blaming it on a slip/lack of intent etc.

    A terrible message to send out, when the GAA is trying to clean the game up IMO.

    That tackle, without going into Joe Duffy-esque hysteria, could have damaged the Kildare player's skull/neck easily, and if it was a Kerry player I would be livid.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    I said it elsewhere, innocent until proven guilty, and despite what the angry mob on here say its impossible to "prove" that this was intentional.

    I've seen several arguments going into the direction he was running, how one might naturally fall, etc etc, all stating this is conclusive proof that he is guilty, which is of course nonsense, and thankfully the GAA think the same.

    Maybe he did mean it, but as its impossible to be sure then how could you possibly punish him?

    Whether this would happen to Galvin in the exact same situation is a time wasting hypothetical question.

    The GAA made a sensible decision despite the crowd baying for blood.

    a shame Matty Forde wasnt given the same leniency. (who by the way I felt was guilty at the time, as I do feel Connolly is this time)

    I dont think there is one rule for the dubs and one for everyone else.

    I do feel that there is one rule one day, one rule the next day and it is picking names out of a hat.

    There is absolutley no consitency in suspensions that the GAA hand out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    bruschi wrote: »
    I do feel that there is one rule one day, one rule the next day and it is picking names out of a hat.

    There is absolutley no consitency in suspensions that the GAA hand out.

    Nail on the head!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    I suppose my views on this incident is well known at this stage, but for the record I in no way think it's a case of favouring the Dubs.
    I agree with bruschi in that it's the GAA being infuriatingly inconsistent when it comes to discipline. I thought they would have learned from the disaster that was last year, but unfortunately, I see another year of controversy where players are wrongly banned while others are exonerated for more serious incidents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,528 ✭✭✭dcr22B


    Hammer Archer,

    I guess you're still referring back to the joke decision that was the Brian Farrell red card against Kildare?

    #1 biggest joke decision of last summer IMO

    Based on the Connolly incident, I don't hold out much hope for consistency in 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭largepants


    Connolly was booked for the incident.

    The rules state that the a yellow card cannot be increased to a red card by the GAA/CCCC.

    The GAA could possibly make the argument the yellow was for a separate incident - pushing/jostling in the immediate aftermath, but that would be a difficult argument to make stick.

    So overall the conclusion was the incident was seen by the ref and dealt with by the ref, therefore no further action required.

    Afrais you are wrong on this. He was booked for the fracas (or kerfuffle if ya like) afterwards. The CCCC wouldn't have called for video evidence if he was booked for the kneeing incident.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,465 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    dcr22B wrote: »
    I guess you're still referring back to the joke decision that was the Brian Farrell red card against Kildare?
    Last time, I promise :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭largepants


    dcr22B wrote: »
    Hammer Archer,

    I guess you're still referring back to the joke decision that was the Brian Farrell red card against Kildare?

    #1 biggest joke decision of last summer IMO

    Based on the Connolly incident, I don't hold out much hope for consistency in 2012.

    I can think of one or two more :D but yes it was ridicilous. When you compare the two its totally inconsistent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Gael85


    Connolly very lucky to avoid a suspension,though James Kavanagh was lucky too after kicking out at Connolly


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