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Name That Part....better, tell me why.....

  • 27-01-2012 11:57am
    #1
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭


    So, dropped into my local garage this a.m. with my 968 for some tlc, . and was chin-wagging with the mechanic, swapping war-stories......and he produced this beauty.

    So, the question is, folks........what is it ?
    Better still - WHY is it the way it is....?

    OK, the Pro's on here may spot it quick so don't kill the thread too quickly ! :)
    190060.jpg

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



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  • #2
    working fool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    galwaytt wrote: »
    So, dropped into my local garage this a.m. with my 968 for some tlc, . and was chin-wagging with the mechanic, swapping war-stories......and he produced this beauty.

    So, the question is, folks........what is it ?
    Better still - WHY is it the way it is....?

    OK, the Pro's on here may spot it quick so don't kill the thread too quickly ! :)
    190060.jpg

    Abu hamsa,s right hand
    The key to the Internet
    Metal Mickey as a child ????


  • #3
    rcdk1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 558 ✭✭✭rcdk1


    No idea what it is, but it looks like the eye/loop was welded on afterwards. Maybe the part was jammed in place and the loop was used to pull it out?


  • #4
    pcardin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,182 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Porsche Design


  • #5
    MarkR
    Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 11,183 Mod ✭✭✭✭MarkR


    Is it an injector?


  • #6
    Anan1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    I'm going to guess at an oil temp or pressure sensor that was seized in place and had to have the eye welded on to reef it out?


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  • #7
    working fool
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭working fool


    It looks like a trackrod welded to a towing eye ?
    I'd say a camshaft puller ?


  • #8
    wildefalcon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    My guess is it's a diesel injector slide hammer removal eye, with injector in place to make the game easy.


  • #9
    CrowdedHouse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Flux Capacitor ?

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • #10
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    All I can say is.........2 of you are right.

    :)

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #11
    randy hickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭randy hickey


    :eek:Another Toyota Recall!
    I second the injector with a bit of non-oem aftermarket care!!:D


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  • #12
    Matt Simis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭Matt Simis


    working fool wrote: »
    It looks like a trackrod welded to a towing eye ?
    Probably this, or a half shaft welded to a towing eye. Why I have no idea though.


  • #13
    ShiresV2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭ShiresV2


    Inner tie rod end with a bit of the rack still attached, and an eye welded to that.


  • #14
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    Do you mean what is it being used for now(makeshift tool) or do you mean what was it before?


  • #15
    aujopimur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    It looks like a whatchamathingy, or a goesinta.


  • #16
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    OK, it's been fun, but day is over, time to head off, so I'll put you out of your misery........it IS an injector.

    Not a tool, puller, adaptor, but, until (v.) recently, a real live working injector (well, kind of.......)

    2007/2008 Opel Astra 1.3CDTI..........

    It needed to be replaced - actually, 2 of them did - but they would not budge, no matter what tool, or tools, or force, used.

    So, weld on eye. Attach eye by lifting chain to........engine crane. Lift CAR by aforesaid......injector......eventually, with weight of car attached, plus tools, it came out.

    And then repeat for the 2nd injector.............

    ..and all because..........of a seal :eek:

    Apparently the seal near the tip gave up, and pressure blow back from the cylinder gets up past it, and, basically, 'welds' the body of the injector to the bore through the head that it sits in......

    190111.jpg

    Dontchajustluv small diesels ?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #17
    langdang
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,857 ✭✭✭langdang


    I was going to say it was so Irish drivers with petrol cars could save face in the company/pub carpark. You just tie a large heavy bit of metal so that it will clank off something when you start up and on idle. TDI badge off eBay, lumber around in too heavy a gear to get a good vibration going - instant Irish street cred.

    ClankaClankaClankaClank - Feel the TORQUE! - ClankaClankaClankaClank


  • #18
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Close-up of the crud - oil/diesel/combustion fumes you can see encrusted on body of injector......

    190115.jpg

    Can't see any of these modern things getting to big mileages - can you ?

    Add in DPF, DMF, and whatever else you fancy, and.....for small cars, petrol is still the way to go.

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #19
    Bigus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,946 ✭✭✭Bigus


    If that went into a main dealers "sure it needs a new head or complete new engine":eek:


  • #20
    knifey_spoonie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭knifey_spoonie


    Bigus wrote: »
    If that went into a main dealers "sure it needs a new head or complete new engine":eek:

    Im going to call bull**** on that one, They would have the right tools for the job and not have to go to the trouble of welding a eye onto the head of the injector.


  • #21
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    knifey_spoonie wrote: »
    Im going to call bull**** on that one, They would have the right tools for the job and not have to go to the trouble of welding a eye onto the head of the injector.

    Have to agree. The background pic looks like a right pig of a garage and certainly not a main dealer..


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  • #22
    dharn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    if he is looking after galway tt, porsche it cant be too bad !


  • #23
    maidhc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    knifey_spoonie wrote: »
    Im going to call bull**** on that one, They would have the right tools for the job and not have to go to the trouble of welding a eye onto the head of the injector.

    What is the "right tool" to attach to an injector to transmit that kind of force?

    Who ever did this sounds like he knew exactly what he was doing and knew the quickest and best way to do it.

    Injectors and glowplugs can be nightmareish to remove.


  • #24
    shedweller
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭shedweller


    knifey_spoonie wrote: »
    Bigus wrote: »
    If that went into a main dealers "sure it needs a new head or complete new engine":eek:

    Im going to call bull**** on that one, They would have the right tools for the job and not have to go to the trouble of welding a eye onto the head of the injector.
    I have it on good authority that that IS the way to remove a stuck injector. I am also aware that this thread has turned into another "don't buy diesel" thread. It's fking exhausting tbh!


  • #25
    wildefalcon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    Remember to apply copper grease to the injector north of the seal when refitting. Makes the job easier when doing them again, at 300,000 miles.


  • #26
    quietsailor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭quietsailor


    galwaytt wrote: »
    OK, it's been fun, but day is over, time to head off, so I'll put you out of your misery........it IS an injector.

    Not a tool, puller, adaptor, but, until (v.) recently, a real live working injector (well, kind of.......)

    2007/2008 Opel Astra 1.3CDTI..........

    It needed to be replaced - actually, 2 of them did - but they would not budge, no matter what tool, or tools, or force, used.

    So, weld on eye. Attach eye by lifting chain to........engine crane. Lift CAR by aforesaid......injector......eventually, with weight of car attached, plus tools, it came out.

    And then repeat for the 2nd injector.............
    Apparently the seal near the tip gave up, and pressure blow back from the cylinder gets up past it, and, basically, 'welds' the body of the injector to the bore through the head that it sits in......
    ..and all because..........of a seal :eek:

    Dontchajustluv small diesels ?
    I've done this on a ship's injector with the 10ton overhead crane - you know the expression "getting promoted through dead man's shoes"? well I nearly did, missed the 3rd engineer by inches as it rocketed out of the injector pocket. Since then I make sure to use lots of copp-a-slip when its going in and tie it down so it only has an inch of travel on the way out. I still remember the 3rds face afterwards - he looked like he'd found religion


  • #27
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    knifey_spoonie wrote: »
    Bigus wrote: »
    If that went into a main dealers "sure it needs a new head or complete new engine":eek:

    Im going to call bull**** on that one, They would have the right tools for the job and not have to go to the trouble of welding a eye onto the head of the injector.
    Shows how much you know. Think we faked up the photos, for benefit, is that it ? That I have nothing better to do ?

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #28
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    knifey_spoonie wrote: »
    Im going to call bull**** on that one, They would have the right tools for the job and not have to go to the trouble of welding a eye onto the head of the injector.

    Have to agree. The background pic looks like a right pig of a garage and certainly not a main dealer..

    Irrelevant. By your logic then, all 'main dealer's' with wonderful premises would ...what.....even own a welder ? ......you'd be invoiced for a new head, thats what they'd do. They wouldn't waste their time in stuff like this...

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #29
    galwaytt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,820 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    wildefalcon wrote: »
    Remember to apply copper grease to the injector north of the seal when refitting. Makes the job easier when doing them again, at 300,000 miles.

    Yes, but these things aren't going to get anywhere near those mileage's......and def nit on original injectors...... These things are going AWOL at less than 100k. And thats kms......I'll look up the odo on that car on Tuesday.....

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • #30
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    .... there are many main dealers that would use some lateral thinking too gents, in fairness to them :)


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  • #31
    EPM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,822 ✭✭✭✭EPM


    galwaytt wrote: »
    Yes, but these things aren't going to get anywhere near those mileage's......and def nit on original injectors...... These things are going AWOL at less than 100k. And thats kms......I'll look up the odo on that car on Tuesday.....

    Ouch. A friend of mine has one that went about 80k km without a service. Has been trouble free so far but I'd imagine stories like this arent too far away tbh. High mileage modern diesels are going to be rare IMO. If the trouble I've had on one used in "ideal" conditions is anything to go by I hold out little hope. The days of 250k+ are long gone.


  • #32
    Nissan doctor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,223 ✭✭✭Nissan doctor


    The deposits that build up from leaking injector seals is carbon.

    I use a much simpler method to remove them....A heavy duty oven cleaner will dissolve most carbon deposits in about an hour and doesn't destroy the expensive injectors. ;)


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