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Peugeot 3008 diesel hybrid - 41.4 mpg

  • 25-01-2012 10:42pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭


    As tested by Autocar.

    Unbelieveably, this is worse than what they got when they tested the standard non hybrid 2.0 diesel 3008.

    Even when they did an economy run, they only got 48.6 mpg. The standard 2.0 HDi did 50.1 mpg. Yes I know this car weighs more than the moon, but it's supposed to overage 74 mpg, which is more than what you get from a Prius (that is supposed to do 72 mpg).

    People often talk about how the Prius never comes close to its official mpg figures, but even that came closer to its official mpg figures when Autocar tested it.

    In actual fact, Autocar managed to get 47.5 mpg on average and 56.5 mpg on their 'touring' route. That means that the Prius is around 15% more economical despite the fact that on paper it's supposed to be less economical.

    People have often wondered why the hell the Japs never bothered with diesel hybrids. I think we have our answer here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭650Ginge


    Autocar - it is just a tabloid motoring rag. The reviews are poor, I would wait to see what real world figures people get. Autocar seems to have a heavy foot.

    Using www.sprintmonitor.de will give a better idea of real life mpg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    I thought these were 4wd not bad if that is the case re mpg.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,374 ✭✭✭Saab Ed


    People have often wondered why the hell the Japs never bothered with diesel hybrids. I think we have our answer here.

    I once read an interview with a Fiat Engineer and he reckoned that diesel hybrids only made sense in really large stuff i.e. City buses and the like. I'll see if I can find the article .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Leonard Hofstadter


    650Ginge wrote: »
    Autocar - it is just a tabloid motoring rag. The reviews are poor, I would wait to see what real world figures people get. Autocar seems to have a heavy foot.

    I hardly think so, the 3008 is considerably more powerful than a Prius so the engine has less work to do, therefore it should have a better chance of meeting its official claims.

    The greatest discrepancy between claimed and actual mpg are always with the small engined underpowered crap that most people buy. Higher powered larger engined stuff always comes closer to matching its claimed mpg in the real world because the engine has an easier life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,519 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Autocar - because we're so desperate for hits we'll spread a review across six pages. Absolute joke that websites think they can still get away with that short sighted practice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭650Ginge


    650Ginge wrote: »
    Autocar - it is just a tabloid motoring rag. The reviews are poor, I would wait to see what real world figures people get. Autocar seems to have a heavy foot.

    I hardly think so, the 3008 is considerably more powerful than a Prius so the engine has less work to do, therefore it should have a better chance of meeting its official claims.

    The greatest discrepancy between claimed and actual mpg are always with the small engined underpowered crap that most people buy. Higher powered larger engined stuff always comes closer to matching its claimed mpg in the real world because the engine has an easier life.

    I am not really sure what your point is there. That theory that a big engine works less hard is a hard one to prove. They use more fuel when they aren't being worked hard.

    I actually drive a Prius at the minute, I think with hybrids things are a lot more complicated when it comes to mpg. For example the Prius has the manual ability to drive in full electric at any speed but only up to 50k/h with the rv button pressed. But likely it is to use electric only depends a lot on the software, it is set up with 4 operating modes over which the driver has no control. I have see my drive not freewheel at 60+ mpg in the summer. That really changes the mpg u can get. It wont do it in this colder weather. I am sure the pug will have rules in its software that controls the power delivery to protect it.

    I had an e200 previously not a huge engine admittedly, but they was not a huge difference in mpg, unless it was in town and it dropped dramatically. The Prius will give 55 one day and 68 the next on the same trip. They realty find it hard to get up to temp as the engine is cutting out all the time.

    It will be interesting to see how it fairs on a test with a person already driving a hybrid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭galvo_clare


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    I thought these were 4wd not bad if that is the case re mpg.

    Diesel engine operates on the front wheels only. The electric motor operates on the rear wheels and there is a 4wd mode that operates up to 100 km/h IIRC. In normal 2wd mode, there will be no transmission drag from 4wd hardware. Any fuel economy issues would seem to be down to weight.


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