Saab 9-5??

nosedive

Another looking for advice thread....

There's a 2.0 petrol 95 on t'interweb for sale but ad says it's got a smoky turbo.

I'm wondering if it would be worth a punt - what would it take to rebuild or replace the turbo or is it a sign of something far more serious?

Also would the thing be a demon on juice??

Saab Ed

No No No No No.

No time to explain why now but just ask Unkel who posts here all the time.

nosedive

Saab Ed wrote: »

No No No No No.

No time to explain why now but just ask Unkel who posts here all the time.

Money pit?

Was hoping there might be a 'replace the.turbo for €200 response'.....

Mr Benevolent

No way. Those engines are notorious for blowing when the sump pickup isn't cleaned regularly.

coolbeans

Ignore

nosedive

I should clarify the first post, it's a 2001 9-5 not a 1995 reg....looks like i'll be giving it a wide berth anyway...

Saab Ed

The sump strainer blocks up on these engines unless fully synthetic oil has been used every 6000 miles. The service book suggests double that but saab later changed this and gave an 8 year warranty on the engine. For many owners who followed the service book this can turn in to a disaster.

First sign of trouble is a whine on start up. This is a dead give away that oil is being starved from the top end. Many times the turbo gives out before the engine itself. The owner might honestly think that a turbo is all that's needed but shortly after its replaced the motor can just go bang.

Unless there's proof that the new service schedule has been followed and you can take the Sump off to inspect the strainer before you buy it, then I'd stay away.

Saab Ed

Just as a matter of interest, is it this car http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2923961 because if it is then I wouldn't bother.You'll get a nice one for fcuk all more.

Typewriter

Saab Ed wrote: »

The sump strainer blocks up on these engines unless fully synthetic oil has been used every 6000 miles. The service book suggests double that but saab later changed this and gave an 8 year warranty on the engine. For many owners who followed the service book this can turn in to a disaster.

First sign of trouble is a whine on start up. This is a dead give away that oil is being starved from the top end. Many times the turbo gives out before the engine itself. The owner might honestly think that a turbo is all that's needed but shortly after its replaced the motor can just go bang.

Unless there's proof that the new service schedule has been followed and you can take the Sump off to inspect the strainer before you buy it, then I'd stay away.

Hi sorry to hijack the tread but is this the same for the 9-3?

I just bought a 2003 2.0t vector and all the service stickers say its been serviced every 6000 miles and the fella that I bought it off told me to do the same (change oil etc). There's no whine but it idels at around 6-700 revs is that normal or should I be worried?

Oh and how would you clean the sump strainer or can you?:o

unkel

Saab Ed wrote: »

I wouldn't bother.You'll get a nice one for fcuk all more.

+1

I bought mine - also an '01 in excellent condition with 78k miles and recent NCT, high spec too for €1,350. With lots of Saab service history (new breather kit and verified fully synth oil used for the last few years)

Very few people are buying big heavy petrol cars. Lots of people are selling them. Plenty of cheap fish are left in the sea if you're buying

JP 1800

Typewriter wrote: »

Hi sorry to hijack the tread but is this the same for the 9-3?

I just bought a 2003 2.0t vector and all the service stickers say its been serviced every 6000 miles and the fella that I bought it off told me to do the same (change oil etc). There's no whine but it idels at around 6-700 revs is that normal or should I be worried?

Oh and how would you clean the sump strainer or can you?:o

The oil strainer can be cleaned which requires the removal of the sump unless it is an auto which requires extra work. The Saab sludge problem is well known in Saab circles and is the first thing any prospective buyer must be aware of when purchasing a Saab of that era. The safest way is to buy one that has an extensive service record and owned by an enthusiast of the marque. Around the 700 rpm mark sounds normal

nosedive

unkel wrote: »

Saab Ed wrote: »

I wouldn't bother.You'll get a nice one for fcuk all more.

+1

I bought mine - also an '01 in excellent condition with 78k miles and recent NCT, high spec too for €1,350. With lots of Saab service history (new breather kit and verified fully synth oil used for the last few years)

Very few people are buying big heavy petrol cars. Lots of people are selling them. Plenty of cheap fish are left in the sea if you're buying

Just out of interest Unkel, what real world mpg do you get from your machine?

Typewriter

JP 1800 wrote: »

The oil strainer can be cleaned which requires the removal of the sump unless it is an auto which requires extra work. The Saab sludge problem is well known in Saab circles and is the first thing any prospective buyer must be aware of when purchasing a Saab of that era. The safest way is to buy one that has an extensive service record and owned by an enthusiast of the marque. Around the 700 rpm mark sounds normal

Great thanks, so everything seems to be running smoothly on it.

I'll still bring it for a full service when I start driving it and ask them to clean the oil strainer. It's not insured yet as im waiting for my old insurance to expire in 2 weeks. I just look at it longingly as i role up in the drive in my old banger.

My girlfriend's dad had a 2001 saab 9-5 and the engine blew up at 140k miles so im just a bit paranoid.

unkel

nosedive wrote: »

Just out of interest Unkel, what real world mpg do you get from your machine?

It's all over the shop tbh!

On a longer drive on open roads / motorways, sticking to the speed limits I get 7l/100km (40MPG), but on mainly slow short urban start / stop journeys it's double the fuel consumption. Since plenty of my mileage is urban with a cold engine I think I've averaged about 25MPG

But that figures was very similar for me in a 1.8l Rover 75 (lighter car) and slightly better than a 2.0l 6-cylinder BMW 520 (heavier car)

diamondkaraoke

Hi I'm going to look at a Rover 75 2L Diesel Conneseur de Elite.
Have not even driven this car and I'm in love.:D
I dont want to let my heart rule my head so I'd like to know if you have any opinions about it. any advise. It's a 2005.

colm_mcm

diamondkaraoke wrote: »

Hi I'm going to look at a Rover 75 2L Diesel Conneseur de Elite.
Have not even driven this car and I'm in love.:D
I dont want to let my heart rule my head so I'd like to know if you have any opinions about it. any advise. It's a 2005.

If its a manual, be wary of the clutch and flywheel, it's an unusual design which makes it a pig to work on, so expensive to replace.

Otherwise, it seems to be a good buy, there are a few things you'd need t look out for, a visit to www.aronline.co.uk should give you some ideas.

johnos1984

OP talk to RoverJames on here.

He'll give good advice on the Rover 75. Aronline while good as a historical archive of Rover is shyte when it comes to real support. I have a buyers guide that Roverjames gave me if you want it

colm_mcm

On a side note, I'd be going higher spec than that if possible.

johnos1984

colm_mcm wrote: »

On a side note, I'd be going higher spec than that if possible.

+1

diamondkaraoke

Its an automatic, 2005 and it's 5,950 but will obviously haggle.

Thanks for the link

mcwhirter

diamondkaraoke wrote: »

Its an automatic, 2005 and it's 5,950 but will obviously haggle.

Thanks for the link

Buy it, the diesels are bargains.