Croke park hours and lunch question

Midnight Sundance

Hi, just a quick question about break allowances and if you are entitled to a break if you are doin a block of 3 hours after a school?
We get a ten min break in mornin n 20 min in afternoon. We'd be doin 8.hrs 40 in total.
Thx

doc_17

What do you mean? Are you a teacher or student?

Midnight Sundance

Apologies, was using my phone to post and the predictive text has changed some words
I'm a teacher and referring to croke park hours( not Crome )
We have discussed doing a block of 3 extra hours for planning( getting someone in to do extra training) after school, as opposed to doing an hour a week for 3 weeks.
I just really want to know should we/ or are we allowed a break in these 3 hours?
(purely because it's a long time from 12 to almost 6 o clock without one)

Thanks

spurious

I've fixed the title for you.
We've always had a short break (15 mins or so) before embarking on one of those late Croke park meetings. I would imagine whoever is coming in would make sure you had one too, unless they want everyone in and out to the toilet all afternoon. Make sure you get something to eat too.
Whether it's a legal requirement, I don't know.

Boober Fraggle

If you have agreed to do the 3 hours after school I don't think it's the same break requirements as if you were being told you had to do them, I don't think normal employment laws apply when you are doing the extra hours voluntarily.

If you are asked to start 15 minutes after school finishes, you count your CP hours from the time school finishes, not from the time the meeting starts, as you are still required to stay on the premises from school closing time.

RealJohn

Boober Fraggle wrote: »

If you are asked to start 15 minutes after school finishes, you count your CP hours from the time school finishes, not from the time the meeting starts, as you are still required to stay on the premises from school closing time.

I'd be surprised if this is the case, firstly because when the Croke Park hours are done is at the discretion of the school so if the school chooses to allow a break before (or during) there's no reason it should be included and secondly because you're not required to stay on the premises (or at least I've never been in a school that you were) when you're on your break. It's just that there isn't much you can do in 15 minutes so you might as well stay anyway.

I'm sure a lot of schools cheat on their Croke Park hours but I imagine that breaks are not supposed to be counted as part of the hours (and in my experience, most teachers seem to prefer to get away as early as possible rather than take breaks, though I've never understood why).

wingnut

I'm not a teacher who cares about counting minutes or even hours of work - but as far as I know the ASTI are asserting that the gap between school finishing and the meeting starting has to be included in Croke Park time.