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Disability allowance and payment in kind

  • 18-01-2012 9:17pm
    #1
    berrypendel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭


    Question re someone of disability allowance. he needs a car and is finding it hard to pay for repairs etc. if he did work for a garage in exchange for car repairs would that be income. he would be only able to work one day a week


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  • #2
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    If he is on disability he shouldn't be able to work for a garage.


  • #3
    berrypendel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭berrypendel


    MagicSean wrote: »
    If he is on disability he shouldn't be able to work for a garage.
    how do you know? whats it to you?you do noyt know what he would be doing? if you cannot be helpful stay out of it. people on DA can sometimes work. Further comments from you ignored. If he disabled he may be able to be a cop though

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    Magic Seán has expressed a POV within Forum Rules.


  • #4
    Milk & Honey
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    berrypendel wrote: »
    . if he did work for a garage in exchange for car repairs would that be income.

    It would indeed be income. It would be classed as a benefit in kind.


  • #5
    berrypendel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭berrypendel


    Milk & Honey wrote: »
    It would indeed be income. It would be classed as a benefit in kind.
    How would that be assessed? How would they determine how much the benefit in kind was worth?


  • #6
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    berrypendel wrote: »
    how do you know? whats it to you?you do noyt know what he would be doing? if you cannot be helpful stay out of it. people on DA can sometimes work. Further comments from you ignored. If he disabled he may be able to be a cop though

    No need to get all emotional. Perhaps you could give your friend a job supplying you with proper insults to berate people on the internet.

    If he really wanted to know he could contact his local social welfare office for clarification. Disability allowance is means tested so if the value of repairs are under €120 it won't affect anything. He could calculate the value of his work by using the hourly rate of the other staff or the total cost of the repairs he is working for.


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  • #7
    Milk & Honey
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    berrypendel wrote: »
    How would that be assessed? How would they determine how much the benefit in kind was worth?

    They would take a view on what the value of the repairs done was. What would someone having the repairs done be charged at commercial rates. that is effectively the pay for the work done.


  • #8
    Milk & Honey
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭Milk & Honey


    berrypendel wrote: »
    How would that be assessed? How would they determine how much the benefit in kind was worth?

    They would take a view on what the value of the repairs done was. What would someone having the repairs done be charged at commercial rates. That is effectively the pay for the work done.


  • #9
    Wile E. Coyote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭Wile E. Coyote


    MagicSean wrote: »

    Disability allowance is means tested so if the value of repairs are under €120 it won't affect anything. He could calculate the value of his work by using the hourly rate of the other staff or the total cost of the repairs he is working for.

    He'd also need to get permission from the Department of Social Welfare before starting any type of work.


  • #10
    Marcusm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,632 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    MagicSean wrote: »
    No need to get all emotional. Perhaps you could give your friend a job supplying you with proper insults to berate people on the internet.

    If he really wanted to know he could contact his local social welfare office for clarification. Disability allowance is means tested so if the value of repairs are under €120 it won't affect anything. He could calculate the value of his work by using the hourly rate of the other staff or the total cost of the repairs he is working for.

    The calculation of the value of employee benefit taken in kind was the subject of nearly 10 years of litigation and this was not the outcome. THe valuation method is the marginal cost to the employer of providing the service. ON this basis, I would see it as being little more than the costs of any parts used (assuming no additional staff were employed to undertake the servicing).


  • #11
    berrypendel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 365 ✭✭berrypendel


    Marcusm wrote: »
    The calculation of the value of employee benefit taken in kind was the subject of nearly 10 years of litigation and this was not the outcome. THe valuation method is the marginal cost to the employer of providing the service. ON this basis, I would see it as being little more than the costs of any parts used (assuming no additional staff were employed to undertake the servicing).
    Thanks have you a link to that


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