Is there any more futile pursuit than campaigning against hunting

Rabidlamb

Firstly, I've never hunted in my life, bar fishing if that counts.
Some animal rights activist pollutes my eardrums banging on about a poor fox being torn apart by hounds.
Seriously love, that's your greatest concern ?, the major issue between you & your ultimate happiness is what happens to a bloody fox.
Perhaps we should ban cars altogether to eliminate roadkill, how many more are killed this way over hunting anyway ?.
The most annoying part of this is these campaigners are not from rural areas but most belong to the leafy aspiration suburbs that voted Green during the Celtic Tiger to assuage their conscience.
Do they stand back for one instance & consider the 10's of thousands of livestock that are slaughtered ever week in an organized industrial process, perhaps it's better that they don't.

If you really want to waste your life follow god or worse still, become an animal rights campaigner.
Evolution happened, we won, **** off.

I realise some may not agree with my views, feel free to blast me with your vitriol, I'm a big boy.

The King of Moo

Hunting in the most humane way possible with an understandable goal in mind (eg. food, population control) is ok in my book.

Hunting simply because it's fun is barbaric.

Also, I know many people from the countryside who dislike most forms of hunting, and many city-dwellers who go hunting.

AnonoBoy

Yes.

Pissing in the wind and trying to hold back the tide spring to mind immediately.

Nothingbetter2d

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Firstly, I've never hunted in my life, bar fishing if that counts.
Some animal rights activist pollutes my eardrums banging on about a poor fox being torn apart by hounds.
Seriously love, that's your greatest concern ?, the major issue between you & your ultimate happiness is what happens to a bloody fox.
Perhaps we should ban cars altogether to eliminate roadkill, how many more are killed this way over hunting anyway ?.
The most annoying part of this is these campaigners are not from rural areas but most belong to the leafy aspiration suburbs that voted Green during the Celtic Tiger to assuage their conscience.
Do they stand back for one instance & consider the 10's of thousands of livestock that are slaughtered ever week in an organized industrial process, perhaps it's better that they don't.

If you really want to waste your life follow god or worse still, become an animal rights campaigner.
Evolution happened, we won, **** off.

I realise some may not agree with my views, feel free to blast me with your vitriol, I'm a big boy.

lol hunting insects with your car's wind screen should also be banned :rolleyes:

danniemcq

eat what you kill no problem,*

This whole Rachel Allen thing hurt the love animal nutters more than anything recently as normal people on the fence about the matter seen what they were saying and laughed at them.

If Rachel had shot them with a tranquilizer dart then took them back to her house and tortured them while they were still alive by plucking their feathers out one at a time before slowly chopping tiny bits of their flesh off before smearing herself with the blood and then killing it by slowly lowering it into an acid bath before throwing it to her dogs then i'd have a problem.

*does not include people.

The King of Moo

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Firstly, I've never hunted in my life, bar fishing if that counts.
Some animal rights activist pollutes my eardrums banging on about a poor fox being torn apart by hounds.
Seriously love, that's your greatest concern ?, the major issue between you & your ultimate happiness is what happens to a bloody fox.
Perhaps we should ban cars altogether to eliminate roadkill, how many more are killed this way over hunting anyway ?.
The most annoying part of this is these campaigners are not from rural areas but most belong to the leafy aspiration suburbs that voted Green during the Celtic Tiger to assuage their conscience.
Do they stand back for one instance & consider the 10's of thousands of livestock that are slaughtered ever week in an organized industrial process, perhaps it's better that they don't.

If you really want to waste your life follow god or worse still, become an animal rights campaigner.
Evolution happened, we won, **** off.

I realise some may not agree with my views, feel free to blast me with your vitriol, I'm a big boy.

I don't see why you think it's futile.
Surely anti-hunt campaigners in Britain had at least some influence on the ban on fox-hunting.

Why would protesting hunting be more or less futile than protests against other things? It's not like there aren't a lot of people who are opposed to lots of forms of hunting.
It's always going to be a pretty popular thing to protest against.

Sindri

I've gone hunting, I didn't really like it. Too boring.

cocoshovel

Smaller forms of hunting like fox hunting I dont mind.

But larger scale destruction of animals really písses me off. Like destroying hundreds of miles of rainforests. Or completely exiling and wiping out a species of amazing animal like tigers, elephants etc. Also the hunting of BLue whales, that really gets to me. Thing I hate is I know that in a few years time more species will become extint and nobody will give a toss, nothing will be done to stop it and us fat greedy filthy humans will continue to pollute the world with our over populated kind.

strobe

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Firstly, I've never hunted in my life, bar fishing if that counts.
Some animal rights activist pollutes my eardrums banging on about a poor fox being torn apart by hounds.
Seriously love, that's your greatest concern ?, the major issue between you & your ultimate happiness is what happens to a bloody fox.

Ehhh yeeaahhh... because if someone is concerned over an issue that automatically means it is their greatest concern and the major obstacle to their happiness? That's your contention, is it?

Perhaps we should ban cars altogether to eliminate roadkill, how many more are killed this way over hunting anyway ?.

Well now this is just, what's the word, stupid. I like analogies, stop insulting the technique with such stupid ones. There is intent in hunting, none in road kills usually. What you are saying is like someone saying "Ohh so you think murder should be illegal? But lot's of people die in plane crashes. How come you don't want to to make planes illegal then smart guy !!!""!"eleventy!!R!???"

The most annoying part of this is these campaigners are not from rural areas but most belong to the leafy aspiration suburbs that voted Green during the Celtic Tiger to assuage their conscience.

Most anti-hunt campaigners I know actually are from rural areas. Going on the threads on the topic on boards in the past, a significant number of the anti-hunting people on here are from rural areas too.

Do they stand back for one instance & consider the 10's of thousands of livestock that are slaughtered ever week in an organized industrial process, perhaps it's better that they don't.

Lots of anti-hunting campaigners are also vegetarians and opposed to the harvesting of livestock, yes. So I'd imagine those ones do consider it occasionally, obviously.

If you really want to waste your life follow god or worse still, become an animal rights campaigner.
Evolution happened, we won, **** off.

Ugghh 'evolution happened, we won'? Read a fucking school biology text book or something will you.

I realise some may not agree with my views, feel free to blast me with your vitriol, I'm a big boy.

Your views are stupid man, as outlined above. They just are. No vitriol necessary, just advice, you're embarrassing yourself in public.

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I personally have no particular issues with hunting btw, I'm just anti-awful awful posts.

It wasn't me!

I don't agree with the campaign, but I think complaining about the campaigners' motives is largely useless. I've engaged in the debate before, but that's a damn sight more futile than either side, as both are thoroughly entrenched. Frankly, time spent arguing with any of them is just better spent hunting.

KeithAFC

The campaign is from the liberal thinking people who have destroyed traditional values and the way a society should be run. I agree with you OP, it is a futile campaign.

Logical Fallacy

If i am honest, i reckon any expression of an opinion on the internet is far more futile than campaigning against anything.

Rabidlamb

strobe wrote: »

Your views are stupid man, as outlined above. They just are. No vitriol necessary, just advice, you're embarrassing yourself in public.

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I personally have no particular issues with hunting btw, I'm just anti-awful awful posts.

Good, we agree so.

Sykk

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Good, we agree so.

Apt username

dlofnep

KeithAFC wrote: »

The campaign is from the liberal thinking people who have destroyed traditional values and the way a society should be run. I agree with you OP, it is a futile campaign.

If chasing down a fox with a pack of hungry dogs is 'traditional values', then thank jaysus I live in the modern world - where I don't have to get kicks out of chasing down an animal that can't defend itself, just for the sport of it.

Cú Giobach

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Firstly, I've never hunted in my life, bar fishing if that counts.
Some animal rights activist pollutes my eardrums banging on about a poor fox being torn apart by hounds.
Seriously love, that's your greatest concern ?, the major issue between you & your ultimate happiness is what happens to a bloody fox.
Perhaps we should ban cars altogether to eliminate roadkill, how many more are killed this way over hunting anyway ?.
The most annoying part of this is these campaigners are not from rural areas but most belong to the leafy aspiration suburbs that voted Green during the Celtic Tiger to assuage their conscience.
Do they stand back for one instance & consider the 10's of thousands of livestock that are slaughtered ever week in an organized industrial process, perhaps it's better that they don't.

If you really want to waste your life follow god or worse still, become an animal rights campaigner.
Evolution happened, we won, **** off.

I realise some may not agree with my views, feel free to blast me with your vitriol, I'm a big boy.

You could just as easily ask "why save one life in the middle of a war?" would you hold that sentiment?

Even a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Rabidlamb

Cú Giobach wrote: »

You could just as easily ask "why save one life in the middle of a war?" would you hold that sentiment?

Even a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Jaysus . . . right . . . em . . . it's fierce mild, isn't it.

Cú Giobach

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Jaysus . . . right . . . em . . . it's fierce mild, isn't it.

'Tis, 'tis fierce mild altogether, de weather's wrong.
His lordship won't bring out the hounds today.

Noopti

So if you ban fox hunting you should ban cars.....because if you ban people deliberately hunting and killing an animal with dogs, then the obvious comparison is people driving cars along a road and accidentally hitting an animal, killing it.

Your comparison just does not make sense, so until you come up with something a bit more relevant and clever I am going to just ignore your entire argument.

RichieC

I have a larger than average cock so I don't feel the need to hunt.

btw evolution is happening, it's not finished yet.

yeppydeppy

danniemcq wrote: »

This whole Rachel Allen thing hurt the love animal nutters more than anything recently as normal people on the fence about the matter seen what they were saying and laughed at them.

I've read this sentence three times and I still haven't a clue what you're trying to say?

Cú Giobach

Noopti wrote: »

So if you ban fox hunting you should ban cars.....because if you ban people deliberately hunting and killing an animal with dogs, then the obvious comparison is people driving cars along a road and accidentally hitting an animal, killing it.

Your comparison just does not make sense, so until you come up with something a bit more relevant and clever I am going to just ignore your entire argument.

Actually it's your comparison that doesn't make sense, "there are loads dying, so why bother saving one".
Just think about that for a moment and the connotations of everyone having that stance in many different circumstances.

Eric Cartman

hunting is both necessary and fun. We need it to control the fox population so you may aswell be entertained while doing it.

Hippies dont understand this because they cant even hunt a job , let alone a fox so they really have no argument

/thread

danniemcq

Eric Cartman wrote: »

hunting is both necessary and fun. We need it to control the fox population so you may aswell be entertained while doing it.

Hippies dont understand this because they cant even hunt a job , let alone a fox so they really have no argument

/thread

i'd hunt megan fox


but for different reasons... would also eat her though... if you know what i mean nudge nudge etc

Rabidlamb

The King of Moo wrote: »

I don't see why you think it's futile.
Surely anti-hunt campaigners in Britain had at least some influence on the ban on fox-hunting.

Why would protesting hunting be more or less futile than protests against other things? It's not like there aren't a lot of people who are opposed to lots of forms of hunting.
It's always going to be a pretty popular thing to protest against.

The campaigners may have swayed the government here & a red top frenzy helped but what happened after the campaigners went home & the press lost interest.
Do you honestly believe that every hunt follows the new laws when deep in the woods ?, these are very tight societies.
The futility lies in creating a law that's unpoliceable, like banning smoking in work vans & the like.

MagicSean

Anyone who uses the phrase "traditional values" to defend anything belongs in the last century.

Frank Black

I hate animal rights activists and people who hunt animals for sport.

Seriously conflicted here