Civil Defence/ duties

have_a_go_hero

hey all i was at thomond park recently for a match...while there i was standing near several services such as redcross, AGS,, G4s and the civil defence....i took a particular interest in their movements and and began to wonder what their duties actually consist of??

Sierra Oscar

It can vary I assume, but I am guessing things such as first aid, fire safety and perhaps stewarding. AGS would be standard public order and policing but usually private security firms would do the bulk of the security work with the Gardaí in place to deal with any criminality which may occur.

have_a_go_hero

yeah like i saw a few plain clothes AGS doing searches but its the civil defence im wondering about tbh

Sierra Oscar

I am not so sure about the role of the Civil Defence in particular at that event, it would vary from venue to venue and the likes. I would assume they would be in place to provide first aid and perhaps they have the contract for the fire safety at the event which would also involve the organisation and implementation of a venue evacuation if needed be.

have_a_go_hero

thanks for that....any idea what the requirements are for joining>?

Sierra Oscar

Its a voluntary agency, not sure of any specific requirements but I am guessing if you have a decent level of fitness and are willing to commit some of your time to the organisation then that is enough as it is. Any training that you require in order to undertake duties will be provided.

If you want to join, your best bet is to contact your local Civil Defence unit. They will give you the general details on admission requirements and when they are recruiting. You can find a list of all units here.

Skuxx

have_a_go_hero wrote: »

hey all i was at thomond park recently for a match...while there i was standing near several services such as redcross, AGS,, G4s and the civil defence....i took a particular interest in their movements and and began to wonder what their duties actually consist of??

I'm a steward for G4S in thomond, basically the civil defence are there to provide back up for the red cross and for the stewards in the event of emergency! AGS are there to deal with criminal activity and to remove people from the ground should that be necessary, as stewards we aren't supposed to lay a hand on anybody whereas guards can!

have_a_go_hero

thats cool....i must say one thing about a particluar stewards attitude there was disgraceful towards a patron when asking for his ticket

Skuxx

Ohh really? Do you mind me asking what area of the stadium you were in??

have_a_go_hero

ah you tell me first on the off chance its you im talking about!! not saying it was or anything

Skuxx

I'm usually in the west terrace.....

have_a_go_hero

by the north terrace corner...where the streacher buggy is?!

Skuxx

have_a_go_hero wrote: »

by the north terrace corner...where the streacher buggy is?!

No, but if its the steward in that corner your talking about, I know him and I would agree with you!!

have_a_go_hero

there was 2 supervisors which seemed grand just doing their job but this one youngfella only about 18 jumper 3 steps to stop a man walking ''fast'' and said and i quote''here show me your ticket'' the mans hand were full with coffee so he went to put the 2 cups on the little wall and d steward goes'' i said show me your ticket'' the man said ''i have one give me a chance'' and da steward raised his voice''i want to see your ticket NOW'' the man showed him it and told the steward where to go haha

Skuxx

Thats shocking alright! I was actually working up in that section for the match this weekend, I was down the other entrance though, next to the half way line!

have_a_go_hero

awhhh yeah....everyone else seemed a1 and i have good time for g4s but this guy need a bita people training or something

have_a_go_hero

everyone else seemed a1 but this guy needs some training i like g4s as a company tho

Chavways

Civil Defence are there for health and safety altough they are rarely needed because Ambulance crews and Red Cross usually are at the scene of any incidents before them. No need for them realy.At least they get a free ticket for the match.

Skuxx

have_a_go_hero wrote: »

everyone else seemed a1 but this guy needs some training i like g4s as a company tho

Same guy is starting training to be a guard soon, so I reckon he's having a premature power trip!! You might have noticed he spent most of the time talking to the guard who was up in that corner!!

have_a_go_hero

i dunno i saw two female guards and one inspector didnt see anyone talking to them....and if the man had got aggressive it woulda taken a lot of people to restrain him he was about 6'3 rugby built
hAHAH

Hooch

alan1990 wrote: »

Same guy is starting training to be a guard soon, so I reckon he's having a premature power trip!! You might have noticed he spent most of the time talking to the guard who was up in that corner!!

Garda recruitment hasn't happened since 2008 and there has been no intakes in over a year......so i doubt he is starting Garda training soon.

Maybe Garda reserve? In which case I hope he is weeded out very soon. 95% of reserves are as professional as it gets, but there is always this 5% that wrecks it for everyone.

have_a_go_hero

it prob is reserves coz my buddie has his medical thursday this week

Hooch

have_a_go_hero wrote: »

it prob is reserves coz my buddie has his medical thursday this week

Ya reserves it is so.

Fuinseog

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Its a voluntary agency, not sure of any specific requirements but I am guessing if you have a decent level of fitness and are willing to commit some of your time to the organisation then that is enough as it is. Any training that you require in order to undertake duties will be provided.

If you want to join, your best bet is to contact your local Civil Defence unit. They will give you the general details on admission requirements and when they are recruiting. You can find a list of all units here.

CD in Dublin does lack organisation and the different Dublin units can be hostile towards each other. very often your duties include standing there and looking pretty. sometimes you might do something useful like provide first aid.
all of these organisations work independently of each other which can be chaotic if you suddenly fight yourself working with them.

Fuinseog

Chavways wrote: »

Civil Defence are there for health and safety altough they are rarely needed because Ambulance crews and Red Cross usually are at the scene of any incidents before them. No need for them realy.At least they get a free ticket for the match.

sad but true.

vidar

Irish Red Cross are there to provoide first aid cover to the public and assist HSE with players if needed. Civil Defence are there as part of the safety team and assist the stewards or Red Cross if needed. G4S do the majority of the security work and i believe they along with Thomond Park organize the stewards