What Constitutes a Sport in Your Opinion?

Omackeral

This is derived from a thread on Darts currently doing the rounds on AH. While discussing Darts itself, posters began debating on whether or not Darts is even a sport at all.

Do you believe it's a sport or is it simply a pub game?!

Does the fact it's on Sky Sports indicate it is a sport, after all, WWE and aerobics are on said channel and they are hardly sports?

Does it take an 'athlete' to compete in a sport? Where does this leave Race car drivers, golfers and bowlers?

I'd like to hear a few opinions on this.

Mr.Crinklewood

If a girl does not like it, it's a sport.

Kojak

Is chess a sport? It requires stamina in regards concentration, much like darts, but damn all physical exertion.

FTGFOP

Am I bored?

Am I in a church?

Yes, no = sport

Pherekydes

If it doesn't require some sort of physical conditioning in preparation then it isn't a sport.

ArtSmart

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

If a girl does not like it, it's a sport.

so you're the Sporty type Mr C?

Storminateacup

Winning arguementw with the OH

ArtSmart

when what you do causes someone to want to cry, but they dont do so until they are at home, that's a sport.

Mr.Crinklewood

ArtSmart wrote: »

so you're the Sporty type Mr C?

Watch not partake ( kinda like my cats views on sex )

ArtSmart

Storminateacup wrote: »

Winning arguementw with the OH

i think that comes under 'extreme sports'


aka, suicide sports

ArtSmart

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Watch not partake ( kinda like my cats views on sex )

sad. nothing worse than an onlooker pussy.

mikemac1

Storminateacup wrote: »

Winning arguementw with the OH

If it's with your wife you need to learn that you will always lose

brummytom

Anything that requires doing something that doesn't need to be done.




I hate sport.

ImpossibleDuck

Something that takes both skill and physical interaction imo

Yes, I believe Darts is a sport.

However, things like Poker are probably not sports.

LighterGuy

Omackeral wrote: »

Does the fact it's on Sky Sports indicate it is a sport, after all, WWE and aerobics are on said channel and they are hardly sports?

An argument can be made about darts... and even poker....
But professional wrestling is a sport. Yes, its fake. Yes, its predetermined. But what they do in the ring is physical. Full body range movement and can be physically demanding.


It is a sport.

ImpossibleDuck

Kojak wrote: »

Is chess a sport? It requires stamina in regards concentration, much like darts, but damn all physical exertion.

Massively wrong I'm afraid. The amount of blood, sweat and tears (I use this term loosely) put into the perfection of the physical aspect of the throw of a dart could certainly be classed as a decent level of "physical exertion"

Storminateacup

mikemac1 wrote: »

If it's with your wife you need to learn that you will always lose

Oh he knows all about losing.

In the words of Charlie sheen... "winning".

Pherekydes

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

The amount of blood, sweat and tears (I use this term loosely) put into the perfection of the physical aspect of the throw of a dart could certainly be classed as a decent level of "physical exertion"

For a 95 year-old granny with a dicky ticker?

jack presley

Ask yourself the question, "are the participants wearing shoes?". If the answer is yes, then it's not a sport

Kevin Duffy

A game becomes a sport when you compete.

john t

A sport is when a person does lots of trainning of their sport i.e 3hrs golf, 4hrs snooker... they are not athletes but are sportspeople.

ImpossibleDuck

Pherekydes wrote: »

For a 95 year-old granny with a dicky ticker?

Since you're opposing my opinion, I'm going to assume you're probably not a regular darts player...that's a fair assumption right?

Go play 8 hours of darts tomorrow.

Come back to me the next day and tell me how your right (or left depending on handedness) tricep feels.

Omackeral

LighterGuy wrote: »

An argument can be made about darts... and even poker....
But professional wrestling is a sport. Yes, its fake. Yes, its predetermined. But what they do in the ring is physical. Full body range movement and can be physically demanding.


It is a sport.

No. No it's not. I know its physical, its damn physical. The bumps those lads take are breathtaking. I've watched Pro Wrestling my whole life and consider myself a big fan of it but it is not a sport!! It's predetermined.

You cant bet on it. Actually maybe that's the answer I'm looking for...

Pherekydes

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

Go play 8 hours of darts tomorrow.

Tiring out my triceps by playing 8 minutes of darts wouldn't make it a sport.

When I started out driving my arms used to kill me. That didn't make it a sport.

Paparazzo

ImpossibleDuck wrote: »

Massively wrong I'm afraid. The amount of blood, sweat and tears (I use this term loosely) put into the perfection of the physical aspect of the throw of a dart could certainly be classed as a decent level of "physical exertion"

If a world champion can look like this, it doesn't require much physical exertion

Omackeral

Pherekydes wrote: »

Tiring out my triceps by playing 8 minutes of darts wouldn't make it a sport.

When I started out driving my arms used to kill me. That didn't make it a sport.

Jensen Button might disagree.... (Not saying I do, though!)

colly10

Chess is NOT a sport. WWE isn't either, it's about as much of a sport as coronation street.
I think golf is sport, there's enough variation and skill to it to be considered one.
With darts i'm 50/50 about, I have an app on the phone for scoring games of darts and when I go to use it half the time I end up checking the games folder rather than the sports folder when i'm looking for it
F1 is extremely tough on the body by the way, those guys are very fit (for the people who think it's just a bunch of people out for a drive)

JohnP199

Omackeral wrote: »

This is derived from a thread on Darts currently doing the rounds on AH. While discussing Darts itself, posters began debating on whether or not Darts is even a sport at all.

Do you believe it's a sport or is it simply a pub game?!

Does the fact it's on Sky Sports indicate it is a sport, after all, WWE and aerobics are on said channel and they are hardly sports?

Does it take an 'athlete' to compete in a sport? Where does this leave Race car drivers, golfers and bowlers?

I'd like to hear a few opinions on this.

:rolleyes:
Don't tell me you're one of those who thinks that all a race car driver does is sit down and turn a steering wheel? F1 is one of the mostly physically demanding sports which requires drivers to be a the peak of physically fitness. I dont think there's too many footballers out there who I fancy to win if up against Jenson Button in a tri-athlon.

IM0

if you not using your legs or your heart rate doesnt require you to get out of breath it is not a sport

ascanbe

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

Ted Hankey is a supreme athlete! Good luck in the PDC.

Sorry to intrude in your world dorks/depressed people.

Thanks for taking the time to leave the hip kids down at the Ted Hankey fan-club and grace us with your presence for a while.

Ficheall

colly10 wrote: »

Chess is NOT a sport.

I'll bite.
What is your definition of a sport then?

ascanbe

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

Ah c'mon, do you have irony in/on your planet/country?

Bullsh..i mean Bullseye.

Chuck Stone

LighterGuy wrote: »

But professional wrestling is a sport.

'Pro' wrestling is a ****ing soap show with muscley men who'd get battered by real fighters.

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

Sorry to intrude in your world dorks/depressed people.

Welcome aboard.

TanG411

People have different opinions on sport. What you should look at are official sports councils. If they have it down as a sport, then it's a sport.

Plus Taylor came 2nd in the Sports Personality of the Year last year.

Temptamperu

JohnP199 wrote: »

:rolleyes:
Don't tell me you're one of those who thinks that all a race car driver does is sit down and turn a steering wheel? F1 is one of the mostly physically demanding sports which requires drivers to be a the peak of physically fitness. I dont think there's too many footballers out there who I fancy to win if up against Jenson Button in a tri-athlon.

I dont even like sports but ive heard driving over those colored strips at the corners is like taking a kick to the chest, at 150 mph thats demanding.

Muff_Daddy

Sport isn't just about athleticism IMO, there are many factors to consider, such as skill, concentration, dedication and mental toughness - 4 traites that are needed to reach the pinnacle of darts. Anyone who thinks hitting treble 20 after treble 20 is comparable to tiddleywinks hasn't got a breeze.

Omackeral wrote: »

This is derived from a thread on Darts currently doing the rounds on AH. While discussing Darts itself, posters began debating on whether or not Darts is even a sport at all.

Do you believe it's a sport or is it simply a pub game?!

Does the fact it's on Sky Sports indicate it is a sport, after all, WWE and aerobics are on said channel and they are hardly sports?

Does it take an 'athlete' to compete in a sport? Where does this leave Race car drivers, golfers and bowlers?

I'd like to hear a few opinions on this.

Believe it or not, as sports people go, F1 Drivers are as fit as they come. Some races like Malaysia or Bahrain, they have to sit in their cars in 50 degree heat, wearing a helmet and fireproof overalls. They can lose up to 5 kilos in weight in these races, so they have to be conditioned to cope with this, and still drive around at 300kph. Most F1 drivers do triathlons and marathons in between races, not just for fun, but because thay have to.

Temptamperu

Anything you train for at the pub is not a sport. Darts is not a sport, its a Klingon hunting lesson :pac:

EdenHazard

pro wrestling is more like an art form than a sport.

darts is a game, not a sport, same with snooker.

ascanbe

ThinksAmoral wrote: »

People have different opinions on sport. What you should look at are official sports councils. If they have it down as a sport, then it's a sport.

Plus Taylor came 2nd in the Sports Personality of the Year last year.

What difference does it make if someone sees something as being a sport or not being a sport; its still going to be the same thing no matter how it's labelled.
There is the whole thing, i suppose, of the practitioners/organisers of certain games/disciplines wanting to recognised as a 'sport' in order to qualify for government grants/perhaps become an event in the Olympics etc.
But on a purely theoritical level it makes no difference; a thing is still the same thing no matter what you call it.
'A rose is a rose is a rose..' to quote/paraphrase Gertrude Stein.

LighterGuy

Omackeral wrote: »

No. No it's not. I know its physical, its damn physical. The bumps those lads take are breathtaking. I've watched Pro Wrestling my whole life and consider myself a big fan of it but it is not a sport!! It's predetermined.

You cant bet on it. Actually maybe that's the answer I'm looking for...

If you bring competitiveness into it. I know what you mean. Since its fake it doesnt have that. While all sports do. (it is funny about wrestling tho :P the real competitive nature comes out backstage :P )

But on the other side of the coin is if darts, poker, snooker and even chess can be classed (or argued ) as sports? ... wrestling ranks more of a sport than them automatcially.

Chuck Stone

EdenHazard wrote: »

pro wrestling is more like an art form than a sport.

Jesus tap dancing Christ the concept of art is looser than a porn stars box these days.

'Pro' wrestlers are just actors with steroid induced muscles who excite children and feeble-minded adults.

Father Damo

UFC isnt a sport. Although it is funny to hear how hyped its fans get in defending it as if it has any type of merit, it is somewhat concerning that underpants playground fighting that 7 years ago was only watched by burberry wearing illiterate scrotes has now become somewhat mainstream and is even threatening real sports like boxing.

Still, I have a feeling it is a fad and will die off eventually.

Red21

Race walking, that has to be the craziest event ever to be considered a sport.

Chuck Stone

LighterGuy wrote: »

But on the other side of the coin is if darts, poker, snooker and even chess can be classed (or argued ) as sports? ... wrestling ranks more of a sport than them automatcially.

Wrestling is for little children. It's muscle-men panto for morons when adults like it.

You like it don't you?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Wrestling does classify as a sport at amateur level. Pro Wrestling falls under the sports entertainment heading, the results are predetermined but your kidding yourself if you don't think that high levels of athletic performance and pain are involved.

LighterGuy

Chuck Stone wrote: »

'Pro' wrestling is a ****ing soap show with muscley men who'd get battered by real fighters.

Yes. Generally you are right (exception of Brock Lensar. He has proved himself)

But that doesnt take away from the nature of what they do. Pretty much a wrestler is just a stuntman. Pretending to fight, bumping, feeding etc etc. But its still physical.

If one wants to argue how darts, poker or chess is a sport then go for it. But how can someone factual argue that the latter sports require the same or more physical aspects?

No one is saying wrestling is on par with MMA or boxing or anything like that. But give its due at least.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Get in a ring and take a few bumps, let somebody work stiff on you and come back to me and tell me its fake.

LighterGuy

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Wrestling is for little children. It's muscle-men panto for morons when adults like it.

You like it don't you?

Well Mister Chuck Stone,
Take a look at this:

Although wrestling is fake, this injury isn't. These are the physical dangers of wrestling. But you are probably thinking this was a once off freak accident right? ... I could post ten more examples if you like.

ascanbe

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Get in a ring and take a few bumps, let somebody work stiff on you and come back to me and tell me its fake.

Never was into wrestling, but here's an example of a couple of great athletes from another sport guesting in a wrestling match.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN2ffgG9ANM

Whether WWF/WWE style should be regarded as a 'sport' of not, personally it think the phrase 'sports entertainment' fits it, there's no denying that its top practioners are real athletes.
This whole discussion also reminds me a documentary i watched where Louis Theroux questioned some lunatic involved in wrestling about its authenticity and then later made the mistake of turning up and agreeing to take part in a training session under his stewardship:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMoeAx0HWQc

The pain begins at about the 9:30 minute mark.

wilkie2006

Kojak wrote: »

Is chess a sport? It requires stamina in regards concentration, much like darts, but damn all physical exertion.

I'd call chess a pursuit. For me, a sport is something where physical exertion comes before anything cerebral.

Although horse racing isn't a sport; it's a vehicle for gambling.

LighterGuy

ascanbe wrote: »

The pain begins at about the 9:30 minute mark.

Haha. Remember watching this years ago
'The Sarge' really did give the (well what can be classed as now) developmental guys loads :pac: