Is there anyone that can replace a boiler TODAY in D15?

vibe666

Our landlord has been attempting to get our boiler fixed since Tuesday, but it's now Saturday and its still not working and we have a 5 month old baby who has just spent 5 days in intensive care in temple street and it was below zero last night and we can't keep enough heat in the house, even with 2 oil rads and a gas fire and keeping doors closed and minimising what rooms we use.

Someone is supposed to becoming back today (again) to replace another part, but I need a backup plan and at this stage 4 or 5 parts have already been replaced in the old boiler and its still not working.

So, does anyone know someone who could replace the boiler with a new one today so we're not left hanging until monday?

As I said, with a sick baby in the house it is urgent at this stage and I can't let this go on any longer.

Thanks in advance.

theg81der

God I hope you get it sorted. Did you go and buy a new one or ask the landlord to? Given the situation I think I`d not be tolerating this I`d tell the landlord I was off to a hotel and that the price is coming off his rent.

vibe666

theg81der wrote: »

God I hope you get it sorted. Did you go and buy a new one or ask the landlord to? Given the situation I think I`d not be tolerating this I`d tell the landlord I was off to a hotel and that the price is coming off his rent.

unfortunately, we need to keep the baby away from everything and everyone until he's properly well again, so a hotel isn't going to be an option.

I'd need someone to supply and fit the boiler, it's just the short notice that might be a problem.

anuprising

pm me your number , and I will see if we can help

Joey the lips

http://www.rgii.ie/home/Default.aspx?id=100&areaIds=15&contractorName=&areaType=Dublin#searchResults


List of registered gas installers in dublin 15. Perhaps you could try these although all boiler sellers are closed since lunch time today till monday so the installer would have to have the boiler in stock.

Best of luck.


Folks. All expressions of work to work by PM ONLY

anuprising

Joey the lips wrote: »

http://www.rgii.ie/home/Default.aspx?id=100&areaIds=15&contractorName=&areaType=Dublin#searchResults


List of registered gas installers in dublin 15. Perhaps you could try these although all boiler sellers are closed since lunch time today till monday so the installer would have to have the boiler in stock.

Best of luck.


Folks. All expressions of work to work by PM ONLY

joey , all boiler sellers are not closed till Monday , I can pick up a boiler tomorrow morning if I want , this evening if needs be .
things and times have changed

vibe666

anuprising wrote: »

Joey the lips wrote: »

http://www.rgii.ie/home/Default.aspx?id=100&areaIds=15&contractorName=&areaType=Dublin#searchResults


List of registered gas installers in dublin 15. Perhaps you could try these although all boiler sellers are closed since lunch time today till monday so the installer would have to have the boiler in stock.

Best of luck.


Folks. All expressions of work to work by PM ONLY

joey , all boiler sellers are not closed till Monday , I can pick up a boiler tomorrow morning if I want , this evening if needs be .
things and times have changed

The landlord has a guy round from bord Gais at the moment, but he's just replaced the Pcb board on it and its still not working. He's now talking about replacing the boiler altogether, but doesn't look like that would be until Monday which just isn't soon enough with a sick baby in the house.

ASAP isn't soon enough unfortunately for this one.

PM sent anyway, thanks for the help.

Billy Bunting

I'm very sorry i can't help with this but to be honest if this was happening to me i really wouldnt risk the babies health and i would play safe and take the baby back to the hospital and explain your circumstances.

Someone wants a good f***ing dressing down. :mad:

vibe666

Billy Bunting wrote: »

I'm very sorry i can't help with this but to be honest if this was happening to me i really wouldnt risk the babies health and i would play safe and take the baby back to the hospital and explain your circumstances.

Someone wants a good f***ing dressing down. :mad:

unfortunately you can't just check into a hospital like a hotel, regardless of your circumstances, particularly as it took almost 24 hours waiting in A&E before we got him a bed the 1st time and then another day waiting in the ICU to get a bed on a ward afterwards so I wouldn't hold out much hope of getting another bed anyway considering they are in such short supply.

meercat

i have 2 electric heaters here if you want a loan of them
pm me your address and contact number

vibe666

meercat wrote: »

i have 2 electric heaters here if you want a loan of them
pm me your address and contact number

thanks for the offer, but I managed to get two 1.5kw oil filled rads in Atlantic homecare for 35 quid each, so we're just about managing by restricting what rooms we're in and keeping doors closed.

I should probably point out that the landlord has been out 3 or 4 times himself now since tuesday, replacing various parts and the bord Gais engineer has been out twice as well, so its not like he's not trying to get it fixed,its just not fixed despite several attempts.

meercat

no worries
hope your sorted soon

glad to hear the baby is out of hospital and on the way to to recovery

good luck

Joey the lips

anuprising wrote: »

joey , all boiler sellers are not closed till Monday , I can pick up a boiler tomorrow morning if I want , this evening if needs be .
things and times have changed

I would be very interested if you could pm me details of who supplies boilers out of hours. Anyone you know of. Just for my records. Thank you

Billy Bunting

I have often knocked up my local supplier to get me out of trouble. Just as I put myself out for my custards my supplier values my business and is always available to me.

SmallBalls

anuprising wrote: »

joey , all boiler sellers are not closed till Monday , I can pick up a boiler tomorrow morning if I want , this evening if needs be .
things and times have changed

Handy to know, can you pm details in case I'm ever stuck.

JohnnieK

anuprising wrote: »

joey , all boiler sellers are not closed till Monday , I can pick up a boiler tomorrow morning if I want , this evening if needs be .
things and times have changed

Like wise. PM me the details

DGOBS

Sorry have only seen todays posts now, I am not a million miles from you (no new boiler though) what boiler have you? what has been the problem?

ring me first thing in the morning if you like, usually on the move before 7ish on a sunday, and if I can help you I will

roy rodgers

i'd be just worried whos gonna pay me..:o:rolleyes:

call me ruthless but I have got stung too many times before.

The landlord seems to be going through bord gais for this and we all know how slow they go and the qualitly of work they produce but at the end of the day the landlord is still doing his bit.

what the O.P needs to do is for the written confirmation from the landlord saying that he/she is happy for a third party to come in here and get the problem sorted and pay as soon as the issue is sorted and the invoice is out.

I'd love to have a magic wand in my tool box (I did ask santa for one, but I must of been a bad boy last year) and fix all your problems!!

DGOBS

Sometimes money comes a close second!
Maybe I am just a sucker for a sob story, but hey that's just me

roy rodgers

DGOBS wrote: »

Sometimes money comes a close second!
Maybe I am just a sucker for a sob story, but hey that's just me

Honestly I do same myself, it cost nothing to be nice and look after every one, but imagine, the landlord turning around to ya and saying "well I never asked you to put a brand new boiler in"?? who's in the right then??

I'd love to have a good go at that boiler and i bet its something like a thermistor that is gone or some down the likes of that.

DGOBS

That's what I meant, go in a fix the boiler to help this poor guy out
I wouldn't go install a boiler without agreement with someone

vibe666

my plan was to just get the boiler replaced, pay for it myself and just take it out of the rent. the landlord has a legal obligation to supply heating and hot water and for the last 5 days that hasn't been the case.

the reality of it is that knowing full well we would be bringing a sick child just out of ICU into the house who needs to be kept safe and warm to stop him getting sick again, he's had since tuesday evening to come up with a working solution and spent all week failing to fix a crappy old boiler (that is well overdue for replacement) with various replacement parts rather than just do the right thing and replace it after the 2nd or 3rd time of failing to get it fixed.

but, as it is, we're managing okay with the gas fire in the house and oil filled rads i got in atlantic homecare and using the immersion we can get clothes washed and have showers etc. so we've agreed with the landlord to wait and get it sorted on monday.

despite all this the landlord is actually a really nice guy and we were getting on very well until this all happened and this is a nice house in a nice area and i don't want to risk falling out with him in the long term, so we just have to do our best to keep the place warm until monday and compromise.

odds_on

vibe666 wrote: »

thanks for the offer, but I managed to get two 1.5kw oil filled rads in Atlantic homecare for 35 quid each, so we're just about managing by restricting what rooms we're in and keeping doors closed.

I should probably point out that the landlord has been out 3 or 4 times himself now since tuesday, replacing various parts and the bord Gais engineer has been out twice as well, so its not like he's not trying to get it fixed,its just not fixed despite several attempts.

It is the landlord's obligation to supply suitable heating systems if the main system fails. Give him the receipts and ask for re-reimbursement.

Although he is doing is best - he is attending to the problem and has a "reasonable time" in which to effect repairs. Maybe he has a contract/insurance with Bord Gais to cover breakdowns so as regards repairing/replacing the boiler his hand may be tied.

vibe666

it's all mates of mates type stuff, he knows people in the trade and has been trying to get spare parts for it himself and has replaced a couple of parts on it, but when that didn't work he got someone in from bord gais to have a look, but they don't seem to be able to fix it either.

the big question is, what constitutes a reasonable amount of time and what are my rights?

i first contacting him tuesday afternoon last week and it's still not fixed and i dread to think what cost these oil filled rads are running up on full blast 24/7, not to mention keeping the gas fire on day and night (except when we're in bed) and running the immersion for a maybe 4-5 hours a day for hot water (its a very small boiler, so the hot water only lasts for one shower before it runs cold) for showers, washing up and washing clothes.

Billy Bunting

vibe666 wrote: »

it's all mates of mates type stuff, he knows people in the trade and has been trying to get spare parts for it himself and has replaced a couple of parts on it,.

Is this guy RGII registered and if not why is he playing with parts.

Marcanthony

vibe666. I have just read this post for the first time. Get temp accomadation untill its sorted. Dont risk the childs health. I can get a few heaters sent to you if needed. Ring board gais yourself in the morning and get a reg installer to come asap to assess and give an independent assessment. Anything man made can be repaired or damage confirmed by a competent skilled person.
I hope your child recovers well and bears no side effects from this.

vibe666

vibe666 wrote: »

it's all mates of mates type stuff, he knows people in the trade and has been trying to get spare parts for it himself and has replaced a couple of parts on it, but when that didn't work he got someone in from bord gais to have a look, but they don't seem to be able to fix it either.

the big question is, what constitutes a reasonable amount of time and what are my rights?

i first contacting him tuesday afternoon last week and it's still not fixed and i dread to think what cost these oil filled rads are running up on full blast 24/7, not to mention keeping the gas fire on day and night (except when we're in bed) and running the immersion for a maybe 4-5 hours a day for hot water (its a very small boiler, so the hot water only lasts for one shower before it runs cold) for showers, washing up and washing clothes.

Normally with a job like this I'd be moving heaven and earth to put it to bed, as would any gas fitter I know.

At this stage if it hasn't been fixed you should have been given a credible timeline to when you can expect heat again it's the least you need to know so you can decide your next move i.e. hotel room.

What boiler do you have, you may find a poster here carries parts and has experience of working on it, when it comes to sick kiddies it's get the boiler sorted first and sort the money out later.

vibe666

it's a crappy glow-worm boiler, but it's had just about every replaceable part swapped out already, it's practically a new unit inside at this stage and still isn't working so i'm going to be pushing for a replacement to be installed today.

we've got the public health nurse coming first thing tomorrow morning anyway, so it needs to be sorted before she comes or she's going to start asking questions as to why the house of a sick child who's just out of hospital isn't properly heated.

the problem is that it's not like he's saying it's not going to be fixed for x number of days., it's that it's always "i've got someone looking at it today/tomorrow to get it sorted" but then they fail to fix it and it goes on for another day and then another and another. where does it end and at what point can i demand something meaningful is done to fix the problem?

DGOBS

Which glow arm boiler and what's going wrong with it

Bet it's like a bloody blocked injector or something really simple and the RGI needs to be beaten with a big stick!

It's never helpful (or legally allowed) for your LL to fiddle and replace components, nd usually leads to other problems to solve of his own making.

+1 Gary, money isn't the issue here, that's why I offered to have a look on Sunday morning and get the boiler up and running if possible, regardless of payment

vibe666

honestly, it's not an issue of money and i really do appreciate the offers of help, i'm a landlord myself (needed to move but didn't make sense to sell and buy again with house prices as they are), which was why i was going to just get it replaced out of my own money and take it out of next months rent, but i'd like to continue living here for the foreseeable future and as i said, until this happened we were getting on really well with the landlord and i'm trying not to rock the boat.

my aim now is to convince him to get the boiler replaced today to put this to bed once and for all, even if it means me chipping in on the price of a new boiler (which he's already said would be about €750) to make sure we get a decent one instead of a cheap one as the old one had a lot of trouble heating all the rads in the house, even with an extra pump he installed (which incidentally is very noisy and keeps waking the baby).

fingers crossed it should all be sorted today anyway (famous last words!).

vibe666

the boiler is a glow-worm 18si, but it's really not powerful enough for the house (4/5 bed with 9 or 10 decent sized rads, inc. 2 in an extension on the back) and there's also a (very noisy) pump in the hotpress that we have to manually turn on via a switch in the hotpress to get it to pump round to all the rads or some of them just get lukewarm and likewise if we want enough water pressure to have a shower with anything more than a trickle.

could someone give me an approximate price on replacing the above boiler with something that would be powerful enough to properly heat the whole house as efficiently as possible without being too pricy?

the bord gais man said that a new condenser boiler would reduce the gas usage by around 30% based on the existing boiler spec, but i have no idea how much that would cost?

on the existing boiler i've actually set up a timer plug to coincide with the heating coming on so that's taken some of the pain out of the process, but there's no thermostats in the house as far as i can see and i don't think there's even a manual upstairs/downstairs on/off switch for the radiators to only heat the required zone(s), so it does need quite a bit of work to get it 100% right.

anuprising

chances are that bord gais will be installing a glow worm as i heard sierra have a deal with c&f

hard to price a boiler upgrade without seeing it but you would be better off sealing the system and putting in a system boiler .if you want the hot water separated from the rads (zoned ) i would say your looking at between €2200 and €2600 for a decent brand,zoned and a magnaclean fitted and fully speced to manufacturers requirements .

alternativly you could get a b rated vokera hung on your wall in a day for between 1200 and 1600

depends on what sort of job and to what spec you want it done to

GASMANN

vibe666 wrote: »

the boiler is a glow-worm 18si, but it's really not powerful enough for the house (4/5 bed with 9 or 10 decent sized rads, inc. 2 in an extension on the back) and there's also a (very noisy) pump in the hotpress that we have to manually turn on via a switch in the hotpress to get it to pump round to all the rads or some of them just get lukewarm and likewise if we want enough water pressure to have a shower with anything more than a trickle.

could someone give me an approximate price on replacing the above boiler with something that would be powerful enough to properly heat the whole house as efficiently as possible without being too pricy?

the bord gais man said that a new condenser boiler would reduce the gas usage by around 30% based on the existing boiler spec, but i have no idea how much that would cost?

on the existing boiler i've actually set up a timer plug to coincide with the heating coming on so that's taken some of the pain out of the process, but there's no thermostats in the house as far as i can see and i don't think there's even a manual upstairs/downstairs on/off switch for the radiators to only heat the required zone(s), so it does need quite a bit of work to get it 100% right.

this is strange as 18si's have an in built pump, has the rgi checked that a 2nd pump is not causing the problem?

vibe666

GASMANN wrote: »

this is strange as 18si's have an in built pump, has the rgi checked that a 2nd pump is not causing the problem?

the boiler isn't even sparking, despite having half its innards replaced, so i don't think the external pump is the issue, but the rgi is aware the pump is there and was looking upstairs at it, so i would assume he's checked it all out.

hot water does get to all the rads eventually (after a couple of hours), but to get them all properly hot, you need the external pump running to reach all the rads, particularly the ones in the extension at the back of the house.

Billy Bunting

Has the OP taken up any of the kind offers of help

vibe666

Billy Bunting wrote: »

Has the OP taken up any of the kind offers of help

not yet as i'm very conscious of doing my best to try not to p1ss off my landlord too much if at all possible as i have been in the house less than 2 months and he is perfectly within his rights as a landlord (within 3 months) to give me 30 days notice and tell me to feck off should he decide i am an undesirable tenant.

i'm stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to provide for my family and as much as adequate heating and hot water are a priority, they still come a close second behind keeping a roof over our heads.

Marcanthony

Billy Bunting wrote: »

Has the OP taken up any of the kind offers of help

I would have taken up DGOBS (great to see a bit of human nature) offer. If I was in your situation. A lad that offers an assessment and a repair (if possible). Out of work hours.

Must be (a) competent and (b) honest and it would have done no harm. But could of helped solve the problem or give you confirmation.(peace of mind). That unfortunatly your landlords guy or his board gais rep could not.

vibe666

Marcanthony wrote: »

Billy Bunting wrote: »

Has the OP taken up any of the kind offers of help

I would have taken up DGOBS (great to see a bit of human nature) offer. If I was in your situation. A lad that offers an assessment and a repair (if possible). Out of work hours.

I'd have loved to, but nobody seems to appreciate how delicate the situation is with the landlord at the moment.

I double checked and he can terminate the contract without giving any reason at any time in the first 6 months (not 3 months as I'd originally thought) and ive already pushed him to the point where we've had 2 heated rows about it.

The bord Gais rgi has just left for the 3rd time in 4 days and has replaced the last possible part that he could think to do, after getting it from a supplier that is only open mon-fri and its now finally working, despite him not thinking that it would on Saturday when he left.

He did say that if it went again that he wouldn't even consider looking at it and that it would just have to be replaced if it came to it, so he knows it's pretty much buttered, which is something to look forward to.

Thanks again for everyones support and offers of help, it is very much appreciated.

Marcanthony

Well in fairness that sounds like the board gais rep done his best. good to hear its working now and hope your child makes a speedy recovery.I

meercat

great
hope all goes well now

DGOBS

30% fuel reduction for just a boiler replacement,,,,,,NO...maybe 10-15%

4 times for an Pretty simple boiler...wow! Sounds like fault diagnosis by just replacing parts to me!

GASMANN

totally agree, and once the old reliables of pcb,fan,gas valve,pump wont fix it, its a write off

vibe666

the error on the LCD was showing f9 and the part that finally fixed it was something called a 'high pressure stat' or something along those lines.

both of the 1st two times he visited, the RGI was on the phone to a guy who works for glow-worm that he knows trying to find the solution, but the high pressure stat was apparently the only part that he couldn't get hold of out of regular mon-fri business hours.

to be fair to the landlord, i had a voicemail from him whilst the RGI was there (before he fixed it) asking me to call him back once we knew for sure if it was fixed or not as he had a new boiler ordered and 2 guys lined up to come out and fit it this morning for us, so he did come through in the end.

thanks again for all your offers of help though, its comforting to know that there are still a few genuinely decent people left in the world in this day and age.

DGOBS

Wow, f9, water pressure sensor fault!
Takes about 30 seconds to see the issue, check what water pressure you have, if sufficient continuity test the sensor, if failed drain boiler, remove switch, most times unblock then rather than replace (but indicates a dirty system)

All in all a standard call out, or most of my customers would opt for a service at that point!

Your technician is incompetent and I would certainly not pay for the inconvenience of having someone who is obviously training on the job!

Point of fact, if you had mentioned this to us at the start you'd have had heat that day

vibe666

the boiler was actually serviced in november about 2 weeks before we moved in, so it would seem that there's more than one person not doing their job properly.

gdavis

the boiler may well have been serviced properly as per manufacturers instructions,gas rated etc. problem may not have existed in november

vibe666

gdavis wrote: »

the boiler may well have been serviced properly as per manufacturers instructions,gas rated etc. problem may not have existed in november

i have a feeling that it may have already been on its way out when we moved in as since it was fixed, it has been much much more effective at heating the house. i've actually had to turn off the timer for about 1/3 of the time it was on for previously and the house is still warmer than it was before, so it's all good.