Cooper 52 day ban is dericulous

strik

Just watched the replay of his ride and fair enough it may have been justified to give him a 2 day suspension but 52??? come on I have seen a lot worse here is the link for replay!
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/mr-r-cooper-amateur-rider-robert-cooper-hit-by-52-day-whip-ban/974908/related/

UrbanSea

Is anybody else's Boards ****ed tonight? This is very annoying.

This ban is actually unbelivable. How in the world did they come up with a figure of 52

ft9

UrbanSea wrote: »

Is anybody else's Boards ****ed tonight? This is very annoying.

This ban is actually unbelivable. How in the world did they come up with a figure of 52

Ridiculous. What a shambles...!!! It's making a right fcuk of the sport.

Yeah Urban sometimes when I post it just loads and loads forever

UrbanSea

If they want to make an example I think 1 day for every 2 extra slaps with the whip is still stiff,but could really act as a deterrant.

I don't think any jockey would expect this punishment. I think they need to have their punishments more clear.

strik

UrbanSea wrote: »

If they want to make an example I think 1 day for every 2 extra slaps with the whip is still stiff,but could really act as a deterrant.

I don't think any jockey would expect this punishment. I think they need to have their punishments more clear.

Sounds stiff but even with this stiff punishment he would have received a 7/8 day ban........think some of the stewards must have it in for him!

UrbanSea

I don't think they have it in for him. Maybe he was more of a scapegoat. Make an example of the lad who hasn't ridden a winner for ten years.

If AP had done this you bet he wouldn't have gotten a 52 day ban.

strik

Didn't realise he hadn't ridden a winner in that long..... not a bad lad to ride and I hope it boosts his career!

UrbanSea

He rode a double that day and a winner today. I wish him the very best,he took an eight year break from riding

Morgans

That is one for the animal rights brigade. That is a shockingly poor decision and a shame to the sport. I think its fair that we dont go back to the Ted Walsh type rides where horses were leathered but getting a 52 day ban for that ride is proof that racing is more concerned with how it looks on Grand National day than anything else. I was actually dreading to look at the video, but having seen it, I would class the handling as tender. Well done to Mr. Cooper as well for taking it so graciously. He is a better man than me. If there are more people protesting this year's national, we might get whips done away with completely. Who knows, before the end of our lifetimes, we might see the end of jump racing as a sport that we currently enjoy

UrbanSea

The ignorance of the general public really needs to be addressed I think Morgans.

They don't realise that these whips are designed not to hurt the horse,the term ''whip'' is also a problem I think.
I remember after last year's National and there were threads all over Boards calling for jumps racing to be stopped. Their ignorance was highlighted at one point in particular when a poster wondered if they could ''run the race but without the jumps'',effectively a 4 mile 4 furlong flat race.

A little bit of me died inside that day.

UrbanSea

Richard Winston is disgusted at his 22 day ban today as well.

http://www.sportinglife.com/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=racing/12/01/12/RACING_Southwell.html

"I'm absolutely disgusted.

"When I turned into the straight I wanted to come widest of all to avoid the kickback but she was hanging severely.

"I've given her three smacks and she was literally on one rein. She was going to knock the other horse off its course which Leonna Mayor rode (Community).

"So I picked my stick up and used it three times in the forehand as a safety measure to stop it from hanging and the horse responded.

"I'm in a position to try and win the race and also prevent an accident from happening but they've counted those three on top of the seven behind the saddle I've used.

"I didn't think the three in the forehand down the shoulder would be an issue because I was preventing an accident.

"I get penalised heavily for trying to win a race and trying to prevent an accident and if I get done again it will be a couple of months. It's an absolute joke.

"I've been riding 15 years and it feels like an insult that I'm being told what to do.

"I'm going to have to speak to my agent and discuss whether I'm going to appeal or not."

hucklebuck

Sweet mother of Jaysus that is an appalling decision.

A friend that works with horses showed me a new whip and there is a counter in the handle and that is how they decide on the strikes, surely video footage & common sense is the way to go. Or adjust the sensor doing the counting, they can do it with house alarm sensors why not whips.

The looney in me decided to give myself a hard crack with a forehand strike across the left hand with the whip and while it stung a bit it left no mark and I gave myself another one in the same spot and no mark.

Obviously the flesh on my hand is nowhere near as thick or tough as a horses hind quarters and I have much more muscle on me than a jockey so I really don't get the brouahaha.

Morgans

UrbanSea wrote: »

The ignorance of the general public really needs to be addressed I think Morgans.

They don't realise that these whips are designed not to hurt the horse,the term ''whip'' is also a problem I think.
I remember after last year's National and there were threads all over Boards calling for jumps racing to be stopped. Their ignorance was highlighted at one point in particular when a poster wondered if they could ''run the race but without the jumps'',effectively a 4 mile 4 furlong flat race.

A little bit of me died inside that day.

No calls for the racing to be banned over Peter O'Toole's horrific fall that day. You know, I'd entertain that argument.

Nulty

These rules are going to drive me away from the sport. It's getting as pathetic as diving footballers.

premierstone

Is there no Jockeys union or the likes? This has gone from been a bit OTT to actaully now having a direct negative impact of peoples livelihood, a couple of high profile strikes wouldnt be long sorting out the mess.

UrbanSea

There's the PJA.

http://www.thepja.co.uk/whoswho.aspx