Wolves in sheeps clothing

E39MSport

What standard (looking) saloons are out there that fit the bill ?

I've got

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Octy RS (Good few)
3/6 MPS (NONE !)
Accord Euro R (but they can look a bit over the top) (few available)
Legacy B4 (too many skangers) (good few)
. Mondeo ST (few)
. S60 T6 / VR70 / T5 (rare enough)
. V6 Alfa (very few about)
. Subaru Forester 2.5T
. Saab 9-5 hot aero
. Galant VR-4
. W12 / V10 Phaeton
. Legacy Spec B (like)
. Rover 620 ti
. V8 Rover

Possibly been done before so sorry if thats the case. On the lookout.

Gumbo

3 MPS
BMW 335i in SE guise

Mr Benevolent

Mondeo ST?

WestWing

S60 T6.

Gary ITR

Either of the MaZda's for me

EPM

Passat v6 4motion
Any debadged Alfa v6
AMG model mercs
Remapped tdidilyeye

E39MSport

Oh yeah - forgot to mention. Few years old too

.... just remembered the Comprex 626

R.O.R

If you can find one, an S40 or V50 T5 would be rapid enough.

L-M

My brother has a CL7 Euro R that used to look completely stock before he bastardized it with a spoiler. Very nice cars.

95 Hot aero wins big time though!

Ardennes1944

1.6t corsa d sri

VanhireBoys

I am now the proud owner of an Audi RS2 Avant in Kingfisher Blue

It looks like any other estate on the road... But ....!

pippip

Audi S and RS models

E39MSport

I'd rule out BMW and Audi from the sheep look though. Looking for something unassuming. (but that would knock the boll0x out of most 'wolves')

Having said that

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2882253

cpoh1

Wouldnt consider any of them wolves in sheeps clothing being honest.

The older M series bmws would top my list.

E36 M3 evo (minus the badge on the back)
E34 and E39 M5 (ditto on the badges)

pippip

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Saab/9-3/AERO-2.8/413245503421110/advert?channel=CARS

Saab 93 251bhp

no1beemerfan

Was there a Bora and Passat vr6?

davycc

no1beemerfan wrote: »

Was there a Bora and Passat vr6?

Yea there was....

and Fiat COupe turbo 20v = 225bhp and one of the most beautiful cars ever:cool:

<nice shilling attempt>

tc20

if you're prepared to go for a little bit of old school, may i suggest the MB W124 500E (rare enough too find)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/auto-clasico-mallorca/2447824875/in/pool-744570@N22/

cjt156

davycc wrote: »

and Fiat COupe turbo 20v = 225bhp and one of the most beautiful cars ever:cool:

Which was a fine car but certainly not a standard looking saloon like the OP specified.

mailforkev

tc20 wrote: »

if you're prepared to go for a little bit of old school, may i suggest the MB W124 500E (rare enough to find)

There's one on carzone at the moment, automotive porn.

tc20

^ indeed there is!!

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/500/E500-Lim/201140204861605/advert?channel=CARS

price is a bit strong, but what a car

Yakuza

no1beemerfan wrote: »

Was there a Bora and Passat vr6?

I saw a Passat 4-motion in Spain last week. I noticed the double exhausts on it first, then saw the badge. I never saw one here, though.

How about a Vauxhall VXR8? (or does it look too much like a wolf to begin with?)

Terrontress

no1beemerfan wrote: »

Was there a Bora and Passat vr6?

There was a Passat W8. I'd say that had some grunt. I used to see several of them close to Belfast's Castlereagh Police station. I presume they were unmarked cop cars.

E39MSport

Yakuza wrote: »

I saw a Passat 4-motion in Spain last week. I noticed the double exhausts on it first, then saw the badge. I never saw one here, though.

How about a Vauxhall VXR8? (or does it look too much like a wolf to begin with?)

galwaytt

Saab 9-5 3.0t saloon on std 16" rims...and no, not a Griffin/Aero/etc.........would pass you by without you even noticing. Super Sleepy.

JJJJNR

tc20 wrote: »

^ indeed there is!!

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/500/E500-Lim/201140204861605/advert?channel=CARS

price is a bit strong, but what a car

seen a brabus 3.6 for sale in a garage close to me a while ago, for less than that.

Tea 1000

A Debadged E39 540i is a visual non-event too, and quite brisk.

pcardin

Ardennes1944 wrote: »

1.6t corsa d sri

not a saloon so for that reason out!

Raskolnikov

My gold Peugeot 106 GTI looks like the tackiest, most bling-iest, kn@ckertastic, single mother-mobile that a person could drive. Remember being laughed at by some scobe in a Passat TDI at some lights nearly a year ago. Destroyed him fairly handily.

Brilliant thing about the GTI is that other than a tiny sticker on the side, you'd never even know what it was capable of :pac:

E39MSport

E39MSport wrote: »

What standard (looking) saloons are out there that fit the bill ?

I've got

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availability added
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Rover 75 ZT (no offence RJ, but meh) (rare - cant see one)
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Out of interest, when did I suggest a ZT as a wolf in sheeps clothing?
It's far from fast really.

colm_mcm

no1beemerfan wrote: »

Was there a Bora and Passat vr6?

Tossy on here had one, which he supercharged.


Think he got a TDI instead

colm_mcm

E39MSport wrote: »

Oh yeah - forgot to mention. Few years old too

.... just remembered the Comprex 626

They were only 75 hp. How would that qualify?

E39MSport

colm_mcm wrote: »

They were only 75 hp. How would that qualify?

sh1te - you just burst my comprex bubble.

I always though they were some sort of supercharged monster.

tossy

colm_mcm wrote: »

Tossy on here had one, which he supercharged.


Think he got a TDI instead

I did indeed have one,the best car i've ever owned - a real wolf in sheeps clothing 272bhp from a VW Boring

I now drive a V6 TDI A4 quattro avant which is actually boring - no confusion really,a 2.8 V6 supercharged 4wd petrol guzzler was getting a bit too much in uncertain economic times,i will be back in another forced induction V6 vag car one day that will be the 'big bad wolf' in sheeps clothing! :D

E39MSport

RoverJames wrote: »

Out of interest, when did I suggest a ZT as a wolf in sheeps clothing?
It's far from fast really.

Fair point - you didn't iirc

I bet you spew about it in the pub though

opinion guy

E39MSport wrote: »

I'd rule out BMW and Audi from the sheep look though. Looking for something unassuming. (but that would knock the boll0x out of most 'wolves')

Having said that

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2882253

Hmmm I see your point, but I reckon any estate audi RS debadged is pretty wolverine and appears sheepish, no ?
Also, debadged and remapped Audi S3 quattro if you could find one ? (Edit: tunable to high 200's BHP I believe)

Seweryn

tc20 wrote: »

^ indeed there is!!

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/500/E500-Lim/201140204861605/advert?channel=CARS

price is a bit strong, but what a car

I was going to suggest the same! I can't think of any better Wolf than a 500E W124 .
The thing about this car is... it is a real sleeper and looks very much the same as an ordinary 200D. No badges all over the place like in any other tuned-up model, just plain and simple. And the way it goes .

bodonnell

Subaru Forester 2.5T, unassuming looks ( apart from bonnet scoop) & almost 230bhp

An Ri rua

Limerick man wrote: »

My brother has a CL7 Euro R that used to look completely stock before he bastardized it with a spoiler. Very nice cars.

95 Hot aero wins big time though!

Absolutely. 9-5 HOT Aero. Demon. or a tuned Xantia Activa mark II. Or a Peugeot 406 Turbo. Same engine. Very cheap, very old. Very Sheep. http://www.citroen-owners-club.co.uk/citroen/index.php/topic/6085-my-xantia-activa-tct/

Or the V6 Xantia Activa. http://youtu.be/LG0eJY_1470

tossy

opinion guy wrote: »

Hmmm I see your point, but I reckon any estate audi RS debadged is pretty wolverine and appears sheepish, no ?
Also, debadged and remapped Audi S3 quattro if you could find one ?

Any de badged S or RS Audi is a wolf in sheeps clothing in this country as no one knows what the are,sure most people think Badged up diesel versions are the real deal.

For the true wolf in sheeps clothing though you have to go down the engine conversion route,say a mk1 golf with a 16v and turbo in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Grc2gqo0I

E39MSport

That golf is awesome.

Check this Beetle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XJXyAILDSs

CJhaughey

Pug 405 Mi16
Galant VR4
Lotus Omega..
Old but still quick

Nforce

Rover 75 V8 (with the Mustang 4.6lt V8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNglP1kUVUQ

Lancia Thema 8.32 (with the Fezza V8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoCHNajWlCQ

dgt

Screw the E500, how about a Brabus EV12???



Any Alfa with one of these under the bonnet...

Chriscl1

Citroen bx 19 gti in its day.

Saab Ed

EPM wrote: »

Passat v6 4motion

I know vans that are faster than a Passat 4 motion

Compton

Ok we get it, you know Vans faster than the Passat 4motion!

What about Saab 93 2.8t

EPM

Why reply three times? And report it saying the same thing?

I think a 250 brake Passat is a bit of a wolf, not what would be expected.

mullingar

A Toyota Aristo.

Its a Jap import 98-05 Lexus GS300 but with the same engine as a Toyota Supra 3.0 turbo.

Those 2JZ-gte engines are 300hp standard and easily tuned to 400hp+ for relatively small money.

heate

W8 - 275bhp quick in gear, gearbox was spaced to increase top speed and economy not 0-60 times.
How about a 2.8 twin turbo Insignia or the new Volvo S60 T6 325bhp and looks like a sporty S60 (an r-design one or some such)
Phaeton to most is just another VW - a V10 TDI or a W12 would qualify

Saab Ed

EPM wrote: »

Why reply three times? And report it saying the same thing?

I think a 250 brake Passat is a bit of a wolf, not what would be expected.

Sorry bout that. Bloody phone.