Is marriage worth it?

John Doe1

Im 21 and am very much unmarried. What is your experience of marriage and would you recommend it or would you steer a young man as myself clear of such an arrangement:D

guitarzero

Kobe Bryant.

Next.

Motorist

John Doe1 wrote: »

Im 21 and am very much unmarried. What is your experience of marriage and would you recommend it or would you steer a young man as myself clear of such an arrangement:D

Seems to be worth it from a tax credit point of view.

Other than that, Im out of my depth.

Feeona

Ye askin'?

stupidusername

John Doe1 wrote: »

Im 21 and am very much unmarried. What is your experience of marriage and would you recommend it or would you steer a young man as myself clear of such an arrangement:D

Are there degrees of how married a person can be now?

I say don't do it. sure what harm can that do ya? none I tell ya. whereas getting married can. problem solved.

Biggins

For me, yes.

TeddyTedson

Do what you want brah.

mikemac1

Tax credits :pac:

My parents told me April used to be always the busiest month of the year for marriages as the tax year was April-April
They might have been lying but sounds believable to me

sgb

When you are single a married life seems very attractive

When you are married a single life seems very attractive

John Doe1

Feeona wrote: »

Ye askin'?

aye, hows about it then?;)

Monokne

I'm 27 and getting married soon so will let you know.

What SBG says is very true though - you always want what you can't have. When I was younger I always found when I was single I wanted a lady, and once I got into a relationship I realised there were times I wanted to be single.

Luckily I've been through this before when I was in less fulfilling relationships so I kind of saw it coming with this girl. Dunno if that helps!

Shenshen

John Doe1 wrote: »

Im 21 and am very much unmarried. What is your experience of marriage and would you recommend it or would you steer a young man as myself clear of such an arrangement:D

I'm 37 and married.
If you have to ask that question, I personally would advise you to stay well clear of matrimony.

Get married when you want to, and when you have someone who wants it too, not a moment sooner. It's a lot like sex in that respect.

mickydoomsux

sgb wrote: »

When you are single a married life seems very attractive

No it doesn't. I'm a single guy in my late 20's and getting married would be the single worst thing that could happen in my life besides having kids.

**** that noise.

Heroditas

Why do people assume you're better off with tax credits if you're married?
If both husband and wife are working, there is no benefit WRT taxes.

DoesNotCompute

Motorist wrote: »

Seems to be worth it from a tax credit point of view.

+1

Bullseye1

Not at 21. But when you have experienced alittle more of what life has to offer you might consider it. Preferably when your in your mid 30's.

DoesNotCompute

Heroditas wrote: »

Why do people assume you're better off with tax credits if you're married?
If both husband and wife are working, there is no benefit WRT taxes.

Depends on how much both of ye are earning, and which tax assessment you go for (joint assessment, seperate assessment, or seperate treatment).

Frank Black

Probably depends who you get married to.

Dotrel

guitarzero wrote: »

Kobe Bryant.

Next.

Plenty to beat that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_divorces

Interesting that Guy Ritchie the only man on the list to receive a settlement ( and he was hardly a gold-digger anyway).

Apparently pre-nup's aren't even legal in Ireland.

Heroditas

DoesNotCompute wrote: »

Depends on how much both of ye are earning, and which tax assessment you go for (joint assessment, seperate assessment, or seperate treatment).

Perhaps.
Both me and my wife are PAYE and paying the top band of tax.
Actually, after the last budget, it showed that a couple who individually earn €50k each were better off than one spouse earning €100k because of the universal social charge (or something similar to that figure)

Sindri

About a 1/2 of marriages end in divorce.


Plus you give up all your power to a woman who becomes increasingly insane and divorced from reality as they age (due to hormonal imbalances).

And all Irish women are neurotic so I'd have to say no.

mattjack

John Doe1 wrote: »

aye, hows about it then?;)

Can I be page boy ?

stupidusername

Sindri wrote: »

About a 1/2 of marriages end in divorce.

In America, yes. In Ireland?

Local-womanizer

Dotrel wrote: »

Apparently pre-nup's aren't even legal in Ireland.

They are legal,just not legally binding. A judge may take some aspects of it into consideration but only if it is fair and not taking the complete piss.

Sindri

stupidusername wrote: »

In America, yes. In Ireland?

In Ireland it's 0.7%.

Motorist

Local-womanizer wrote: »

They are legal,just not legally binding. A judge may take some aspects of it into consideration but only if it is fair and not taking the complete piss.

Ha can't wait to tell that to my mate who is a complete miser and has been talking about pre-nups for the last 5 years for when he marries his girlfriend.

dvpower

mikemac1 wrote: »

Tax credits :pac:

My parents told me April used to be always the busiest month of the year for marriages as the tax year was April-April
They might have been lying but sounds believable to me

The middle of the year would be a better time to get married from a tax allowances pov (or just before the end of the tax year). That way you can be jointly assessed for a full year that you got married at the end of.

Charlie McCreevy got rid of most of these advantages 'though.

Local-womanizer

Motorist wrote: »

Ha can't wait to tell that to my mate who is a complete miser and has been talking about pre-nups for the last 5 years for when he marries his girlfriend.

Don't tell him, let him arrange a pre-nup, let them get married then sleep with his wife,video it and send it to him. When he files for divorce he will be sickened to find out his prenup is worthless and you will all have a great laugh then!

Plus you get the ride.

Win-win for everyone!

XenaLady

There is no good reason to get married nowadays unless you are deeply religious or want to please your relatives who just want to have a good party.
Save the money or take off for a holiday in Hawaii with the other half instead, itll give you more nice memories than one stressful day that really doesnt count in the relationship anyway.

Local-womanizer

XenaLady wrote: »

There is no good reason to get married nowadays unless you are deeply religious or want to please your relatives who just want to have a good party.
Save the money or take off for a holiday in Hawaii with the other half instead, itll give you more nice memories than one stressful day that really doesnt count in the relationship anyway.

Actually if you have kids and are male then it gives you more rights than if you were not married to your partner, ie not having to apply for guardianship if your partner passed away.

When it comes to single fathers rights in this country it really is arse about face...

Dotrel

Sindri wrote: »

In Ireland it's 0.7%.

It's the begrudgery that keeps it so low.

Toby Take a Bow

In addition to (possible) tax credits, I read somewhere once (so it must be true) that being married is good for your health because living with someone in an intimate relationship means that the other person will be aware of things wrong with you that you might not notice yourself (weird growth on your back, something you always thought was normal that should be checked out). I remember the article specified those married, so maybe doesn't include those in long-term relationships (but not married) as maybe they have a higher chance of not succeeding?

Pherekydes

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Actually if you have kids and are male then it gives you more rights than if you were not married to your partner, ie not having to apply for guardianship if your partner passed away.

When it comes to single fathers rights in this country it really is arse about face...

Correct. In fact, it's even worse, as you have to apply for guardianship before you can put your name on your own children's birth certs if their mother is married to someone else (i.e. only separated).

egan2020

Inheritance tax plays a big part in it too. AFAIK there is no tax payable on gifts or inheritances between spouses but this doesn't apply to cohabiting couples.

Jess16

Sindri wrote: »

And all Irish women are neurotic so I'd have to say no.

How dare you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svB6PyPU8PU

Lawrence1895

A marriage does not improve a relationship or makes it worse...it's just to give insecure partners some security

Jesus Wept

Sindri wrote: »

In Ireland it's 0.7%.

Because a divorce is so arduous to get.
We aren't much better at marriage than Americans, if at all.

KeithAFC

Yes. If only more people did marriage and make a commitment. Instead our society is ripped apart by marriages broken, affairs all over the place and children having bad upbringings with a lack of guidance from parents. If only traditional values meant more in society.

Veleste

Marriage is just a tax break. If you're asking if a committed relationship is worth it, though, god yes. Just make sure you've the right person first. Nothing worse than living with someone you secretly want to suffocate or who shares none of your interests.

I briefly had a roommate who loved Polka, NEVER. AGAIN. Then again I'm sure he remembers me as the roommate who tried to drown out his music with Phantom of the Opera.

Handy11

In my experience, marriage is great. It's your way of saying to the world that you love this person and want to be with them for the rest of your life. It's more than just a wedding. The marriage is kinda cool. Ring always there to remind you of what you did and who you're lucky to be with.

XenaLady

Local-womanizer wrote: »

Actually if you have kids and are male then it gives you more rights than if you were not married to your partner, ie not having to apply for guardianship if your partner passed away.

When it comes to single fathers rights in this country it really is arse about face...

I never thought it matters to guys, thought it was only us ladies that seem to be anxious about getting married. Tried once, and I know enough to say never again.

Frank Black

Handy11 wrote: »

In my experience, marriage is great. It's your way of saying to the world that you love this person and want to be with them for the rest of your life. It's more than just a wedding. The marriage is kinda cool. Ring always there to remind you of what you did and who you're lucky to be with.

*passes sick bucket around*

Doc Ruby

sgb wrote: »

When you are single a married life seems very attractive

No it doesn't. I'll let From Dusk till Dawn tell it like it is:

You'll be my slave. You'll live for me. You'll eat bugs because I order it. Why? Because I don't think you're worthy of human blood. You'll feed on the blood of stray dogs. You'll be my foot stool. And at my command, you'll lick the dog **** from my boot heel. Since you'll be my dog, your new name will be "Spot". Welcome to slavery.

Seth: No, thanks. I've already had a wife.

Truer words were never spoken.

3rdDegree

The-Rigger wrote: »

Sindri wrote: »

In Ireland it's 0.7%.

Because a divorce is so arduous to get.
We aren't much better at marriage than Americans, if at all.

True. The percentage of separated married couples would be a more interesting statistic.

bnt

If you want to see some real horror stories and marriage-bashing, there's a whole forum full of it: Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW). Not for the Romantic of either gender.

Freddie59

John Doe1 wrote: »

Im 21 and am very much unmarried. What is your experience of marriage and would you recommend it or would you steer a young man as myself clear of such an arrangement:D

No-one can "steer you clear from such an arrangement" as you describe it. FFS you make it sound like buying a car! If you are blessed in finding a soul mate you may want to do it. We're 30 years married, with three adult children, and still love each other very much. I cannot imagine a life without my best friend. Ever.

Freddie59

Sindri wrote: »

About a 1/2 of marriages end in divorce.


Plus you give up all your power to a woman who becomes increasingly insane and divorced from reality as they age (due to hormonal imbalances).

And all Irish women are neurotic so I'd have to say no.

Wow! I don't think generalisation even covers THAT one!:D Maybe the word 'paranoid' might be used to describe someone else........;):)

Temptamperu

Dont let Vince Vaughn movies put you off.

krudler

to quote Louis CK:

"Marriage is when you can say "I cant leave now! not that I was thinking of leaving but now I really cant" until the first kid comes along and then you say "****! I could have left!"

saa

John Doe1 wrote: »

Im 21 and am very much unmarried. What is your experience of marriage and would you recommend it or would you steer a young man as myself clear of such an arrangement:D

Yes steer clear at any age unless you find someone who you can't be around enough you love them so much you just want to celebrate, sign some legal stuff and get tax credits.

I want to get married through civil ceremony and have a nice family of my own but I still can't really pin point why I need to get married to have a nice family life (cue angry single moms - bastard children rant :pac:)

dogwoodflower

sgb wrote: »

When you are single a married life seems very attractive

When you are married a single life seems very attractive

so true