This states misers

JOSman

Where is the government getting all these "Sheriff of Nottingham types" the bad news providers, those higher civil service people, with their property tax, water tax, old folks tax etc?

Perhaps if they weren't paid those high wages then the attack on old folks wouldn't be necessary?

cloud493

Que?

later12

What 'attack on old folks'?

Asking them to do their tax returns properly?

mackg

I don't own either a home or any old folks so neither of those taxes effect me.

starbelgrade

Old people smell bad.

Saila

JOSman wrote: »

Where is the government

town

44leto

The OP is an economic genius. I bow before his mighty wisdom.

Feeona

They should have a 'pretending not to notice the queue' tax too.

Old folks get my goat :mad:

Micky Dolenz

It takes a brave government to take on OAP's. Free travel and loads of time on their hands is an explosive mix.

Chuck Stone

JOSman wrote: »

Perhaps if they weren't paid those high wages then the attack on old folks wouldn't be necessary?

Everyone is sharing the burden.

There is no rational reason why Seniors shouldn't be sharing it too. Indeed many of them are in a position to because they have mortgages paid off, no childcare costs and auto-entitlement to medical card and free travel.

johngalway

Gonna write my td to suggest a whine about the Govt tax tax.

mikemac1

Feeona wrote: »

They should have a 'pretending not to notice the queue' tax too.

Old folks get my goat :mad:

Oh they see the queue alright

And have razor sharp elbows and are not slow to give you a dig in the ribs, ouch :mad:

Saila

theres an old folks tax

44leto

There is an income tax and all of us have to pay it. It the pension exceeds your tax free allowances you have to pay it.

Some pensioners earn well over the state pension.

looksee

Next year I will be one of those pensioners. If people owe tax they should have to pay it, regardless of whether they are pensioners. There is an element of error involved in this issue because one department has only just got round to talking to another. That leaves some pensioners stuck with paying tax that many of them were not entirely aware they owed.

Of course tv news is going to find a few soundbites to bleat about having to pay. In much the same way that it is not difficult to find people to complain about having to pay anything from the new €100 charge to refuse charges.

What I do not understand is why this unleashes a landslide of generalisations about pensioners and their wealth. Of course there are some wealthy pensioners, there is also a huge majority who are not at all wealthy.

What is the enthusiasm for finding people to blame? Everything is the fault of one group or another - the civil servants (who are mostly just people doing a job), the teachers - ditto, the unemployed (many of whom are only just unemployed and would dearly love to get back to work), immigrants (they took our jobs) and so on.

Some of the keyboard warriors should look at their own situations and make an effort to solve their own problems instead of just trying to blame everyone else with wild and sweeping statements. I know this is After Hours and therefore not to be taken seriously, but there are people who believe what they read on here even though it is often even less accurate than the rag tabloids.

johngalway

looksee wrote: »

What I do not understand is why this unleashes a landslide of generalisations about pensioners and their wealth. Of course there are some wealthy pensioners, there is also a huge majority who are not at all wealthy.

It'll blow over tomorrow. Yesterday it was someone else, tomorrow someone else, and so forth.

JOHN KEOGH

JOSman wrote: »

Where is the government getting all these "Sheriff of Nottingham types" the bad news providers, those higher civil service people, with their property tax, water tax, old folks tax etc?

Perhaps if they weren't paid those high wages then the attack on old folks wouldn't be necessary?

I agree with u 100%!!
I'm NOT paying this tax, and im not registering to be screwed for the rest of my life either.

Zen65

JOHN KEOGH wrote: »

I agree with u 100%!!
I'm NOT paying this tax, and im not registering to be screwed for the rest of my life either.

I don't think that "not registering" will spare anyone from having to pay property tax. Revenue have computers now. Like the TV Licence inspectors, anyone who has an address will eventually have to explain themselves to the Revenue to explain why they have not paid their property tax. Whatever my misgivings about paying €100 (+whatever increases they load on in subsequent years) I'd be rightly annoyed at being pursued for €2,500 because I took advice from Joe Higgins or some other clown to not pay.

Z

Zen65

johngalway wrote: »

Yesterday it was someone else, tomorrow someone else, and so forth.

+1

But the people who caused this mess, the bankers, the developers, the politicians, the regulator, the politicians (worth a second mention) are quietly slipping away from the limelight. In any other country Charlie McCreevy & Brian Cowen would he hauled before the courts to explain why they allowed such poor regulation & controls to be applied despite being warned by their own senior civil servants. Ironically in Ireland it is the senior civil servants who are more likely to face the media glare for their failures to do anything (as opposed to warning their political masters) to prevent the financial ruin of the banks.

Z