Best overhand right ever ???????

tryingmybestt

this has to be my favourite punch....the right hand timed perfectly as the other guy is throwing his jab....

a few fighters spring to mind such as erik morales, kostya tszyu and alexis arguello...

for me the best has to be joe louis !!

where is it:D

walshb

Monzon had a great one. Tyson too used this well. Then there is the right hand that Mayweather employs; the feint, slip and right hand counter. Toney is another master at this shot.

cowzerp

George Foreman Thread over!

frank bruno was not bad either

With that said, over hand rights tend to be the sloppiest punches possible in Boxing and most the time are not skill but just hope for the best swings, i'd never coach it been honest.

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

George Foreman Thread over!

frank bruno was not bad either

With that said, over hand rights tend to be the sloppiest punches possible in Boxing and most the time are not skill but just hope for the best swings, i'd never coach it been honest.

Sloppy if you are sloppy. Classy if you are classy!

cowzerp

walshb wrote: »

Monzon had a great one. Tyson too used this well. Then there is the right hand that Mayweather employs; the feint, slip and right hand counter. Toney is another master at this shot.

I would more call them short Rights than Over hand rights-over hand rights tend to be looping and over the top, Tyson sometimes done that but mayweather more throws a short range cross, almost a hook/cross!

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

I would more call them short Rights than Over hand rights-over hand rights tend to be looping and over the top, Tyson sometimes done that but mayweather more throws a short range cross, almost a hook/cross!

I know the shots you are thinking of. The almost wild and hail mary overhand rights.

tryingmybestt

cowzerp wrote: »

George Foreman Thread over!

frank bruno was not bad either

With that said, over hand rights tend to be the sloppiest punches possible in Boxing and most the time are not skill but just hope for the best swings, i'd never coach it been honest.

a proper overhand right is one the most skilled, accurate and precise punches in boxing !

it's all about timing and accuracy, otherwise it won't work......it's one of the best punches to be taught to a young boxer.....the concept of precise counter punching

tryingmybestt

cowzerp wrote: »

I would more call them short Rights than Over hand rights-over hand rights tend to be looping and over the top, Tyson sometimes done that but mayweather more throws a short range cross, almost a hook/cross!

mayweather usually throws a long right hand.....he leans back to avoid the punch and then counters quickly....he also sometimes just shoots it without drawing the punch from the opponent.....perfect example is against gatti !

cowzerp

tryingmybestt wrote: »

a proper overhand right is one the most skilled, accurate and precise punches in boxing !

it's all about timing and accuracy, otherwise it won't work......it's one of the best punches to be taught to a young boxer.....the concept of precise counter punching

No it's not, it's rarely taught and most of the time you will get warned for it-over hands are the work of a desperate man and the untrained.

i do MMA too and there common because the people doing them tend to have terrible boxing.

also any punch that lands accurate is accurate so that makes no sense!

tryingmybestt

cowzerp wrote: »

No it's not, it's rarely taught and most of the time you will get warned for it-over hands are the work of a desperate man and the untrained.

i do MMA too and there common because the people doing them tend to have terrible boxing.

also any punch that lands accurate is accurate so that makes no sense!

an overhand right is always taught and is one of the most skilled punches......i know from boxing for many years as an amateur.....i'm not talking about a wild swing, that seems to be your interpretation of it....i'm talking of a straight right thrown over the opponents lead left jab, timed perfectly to catch him on the button...

cowzerp

tryingmybestt wrote: »

an overhand right is always taught and is one of the most skilled punches......i know from boxing for many years as an amateur.....i'm not talking about a wild swing, that seems to be your interpretation of it....i'm talking of a straight right thrown over the opponents lead left jab, timed perfectly to catch him on the button...

That's not an overhand right, thats a right cross and a great punch.

ps. it's great to have you posting here-if more people posted like this the place would be much more interesting.

walshb

My view of an overhand right is a right hand that is not straight. It loops slightly, and the wilder the throw, the loopier the shot.

tryingmybestt

walshb wrote: »

My view of an overhand right is a right hand that is not straight. It lopps slightly, and the wilder the throw, the loopier the shot.

ok maybe crossed wires...

i don't mean an overhand right like chris eubank used to throw from left field...

i mean a straight right over the jab.....i call it an overhand right because it's timed over the jab.....like kostya tszyu's right over the jab etc.

i don't like the wild swings at all !

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

That's not an overhand right, thats a right cross and a great punch.

ps. it's great to have you posting here-if more people posted like this the place would be much more interesting.

Yes, the site can be sluggish at times, most times actually. Get rid of me and we're doomed!;)

tryingmybestt

walshb wrote: »

Yes, the site can be sluggish at times, most times actually. Get rid of me and we're doomed!;)

lol

it's great to have a healthy debate with fellow lovers of boxing...best sport in the world

gene_tunney

tryingmybestt wrote: »

this has to be my favourite punch....the right hand timed perfectly as the other guy is throwing his jab....

a few fighters spring to mind such as erik morales, kostya tszyu and alexis arguello...

for me the best has to be joe louis !!

It's called a pull counter and it's one of my favourite punches!

Mayweather's is arguably the best ever but so many boxers had a nice one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8_kPRkf5eY

Draupnir

Didn't Harrison throw an amazing over hand right on Michael Sprott (possibly an over hand left) and then there was Hasim Rahman's knock out of Lewis which I think was an over hand right?

Either way, both those examples would be on the lucky rather than classy side of the argument!

tryingmybestt

gene_tunney wrote: »

It's called a pull counter and it's one of my favourite punches!

Mayweather's is arguably the best ever but so many boxers had a nice one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8_kPRkf5eY

i love that punch your talking about but no that's not the punch i'm talking about...

the right hand i'm talking about is rather than pulling back to avoid the opponents punch and then countering i'm talking about throwing the right hand at the same time as the opponent is throwing his left jab.....the right lands over the jab and on the chin as the opponents chin is unprotected as he is throwing a jab.....as your throwing the right you step in and lean to the left so you avoid the opponents left and increase your power....

this punch is all about timing and reflexes.....if you throw it too early the opponents left will not have left his chin yet and therefore his chin is not yet exposed and if you throw it too late the opponents left hand has returned to his chin after he throws the jab....

below is a link kind of showing the concept...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-k1TllSSE4&feature=related

the below link at 0:40 shows exactly what i mean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl_kE8U-gys

gene_tunney

I know what you're talking about now but that punch is usually a wild swing that misses. Every now and then it connects for a spectacular KO and turns up on a highlight reel though.

Putting your head down our out of the way when swinging is not good technique, and largely when these guys throw this punch its just luck that the opponent happened to throw a jab first, especially if they put their head down so much that they no longer maintain eye contact, so they couldn't possibly see what the opponent is doing.

Looks good when it works though.

tryingmybestt

gene_tunney wrote: »

I know what you're talking about now but that punch is usually a wild swing that misses. Every now and then it connects for a spectacular KO and turns up on a highlight reel though.

Putting your head down our out of the way when swinging is not good technique, and largely when these guys throw this punch its just luck that the opponent happened to throw a jab first, especially if they put their head down so much that they no longer maintain eye contact, so they couldn't possibly see what the opponent is doing.

Looks good when it works though.

your looking at this from the wrong angle.....this punch is one of the most skillful as requires such timing and reflexes....i don't mean ducking your head down to the floor....i mean slipping slightly to the left, 6 inches only to avoid his jab......obviously your keeping your head up and looking at him at all times....as your head slips to the left towards his chest your right hand goes to the right over his jab......i don't know how you think this punch is a wild or lucky punch.....it's probably one of the least lucky punches and requires the most skill.....take it from someone who spent many many years perfecting it.......u should be able to tell the difference between a wild swing and a beautifully timed punch.....if u were a boxer you'd have understood what i mean by now

walshb

I don't know, I get exactly what the OP means. There is the looping and kind of wild overhand right, and there is the neat and technical and accurate and deliberate shot. 4 mins 20 in is the sort of wild overhand right. The first clip is the technical and beautiful overhand right, albeit thrown when the opponent has not thrown his jab. Also, Benn's KO clip 20 secs is a perfect example of what the OP means. NOTHING wild or lucky about these types of shots.

BTW, no matter what way you describe it, it is not dead straight. It has a slight angle, or loop to it.

BTW, 3 mins 8 secs in is the Jefferson KO of Harris. Unreal!.

Love Toney's KO of Jason Robinson. Super KO, so effortless, and so well set up. 3 mins 23 secs in.

Super youtube clip. It's now in my favourites

tryingmybestt

walshb wrote: »

I don't know, I get exactly what the OP means. There is the looping and kind of wild overhand right, and there is the neat and technical and accurate and deliberate shot. 4 mins 20 in is the sort of wild overhand right. The first clip is the technical and beautiful overhand right, albeit thrown when the opponent has not thrown his jab. Also, Benn's KO clip 20 secs is a perfect example of what the OP means. NOTHING wild or lucky about these types of shots.

BTW, no matter what way you describe it, it is not dead straight. It has a slight angle, or loop to it.

BTW, 3 mins 8 secs in is the Jefferson KO of Harris. Unreal!.

Love Toney's KO of Jason Robinson. Super KO, so effortless, and so well set up. 3 mins 23 secs in.

Super youtube clip. It's now in my favourites

exactly.....the punch is thrown like a straight hand and it does loop slightly over the jab....more up and down than loop...........it's a great punch because the power is doubles by the opponent stepping in with their jab.........

yeah it's a good clip......none of the ko's are exactly what i mean but the benn one is pretty close.....if the opponent is stepping in with the jab and at the same moment you step in with the right over his jab....thats the punch...bam he's down