Naturism - For and against!

SuperCereal

Hello,

I think of naturism and being naked on the beach as completely normal and not a bit pervy or disgusting. I have never met anyone who will out and out say being naked in an appropriate setting such as a secluded beach or designated area is wrong so why is it illegal?

Is there anyone out there against it?

galwayrush

In Ireland, are you ****ing joking with our weather?:pac:
It would be all blue nipples and shrivelled dicks...

starbelgrade

In theory, naturism is great, but in practice most people wait until they turn from good looking young people with great physiques into fat, ugly men with tiny cocks & wrinkly old women with saggy tits before they decide that naturism is a good idea.

Nodin

SuperCereal wrote: »

Hello,

I think of naturism and being naked on the beach as completely normal and not a bit pervy or disgusting. I have never met anyone who will out and out say being naked in an appropriate setting such as a secluded beach or designated area is wrong so why is it illegal?

Is there anyone out there against it?

You want to run around in this misery in the nip, far be it from me.

Saila

the children. someone needs to think of them

SuperCereal

NO Joke sir,

There's lotsa unofficial spots around the coast but legally its still not allowed.

A0

SuperCereal wrote: »

Hello,

I think of naturism and being naked on the beach as completely normal and not a bit pervy or disgusting. I have never met anyone who will out and out say being naked in an appropriate setting such as a secluded beach or designated area is wrong so why is it illegal?

Is there anyone out there against it?

Nope, love it!
But not in Ireland (weather) and also because the country is not ready for it, people get arrested when they kiss in the streets

the groutch

For: Bewbs

Against: Dicks

Saila

galwayrush wrote: »

In Ireland, are you ****ing joking with our weather?:pac:
It would be all blue nipples and shrivelled dicks...

Ill take the perky nipples/tits and try to ignore the dicks, which given they will be shrivelled will be much easier!

*approved*

stupidusername

starbelgrade wrote: »

In theory, naturism is great, but in practice most people wait until they turn from good looking young people with great physiques into fat, ugly men with tiny cocks & wrinkly old women with saggy tits before they decide that naturism is a good idea.

yeah i'll definitely wait till i'm old and saggy to get naked in public. see when you get to that age you wanna freak out as many people as possible, as that's the only way to have fun.

Saila wrote: »

the children. someone needs to think of them

naked children!?111111! :eek: how dare you!

Pace2008

For: I don't really give a **** about people getting their kit off in public. Not everywhere though; give them designated areas, I don't want to look at old men wearing nothing save for a pair of socks and sandals.

Against: "Naturism" is a retarded euphemism as it has absolutely nothing to do with nature.

Saila

Pace2008 wrote: »

For: I don't really give a **** about people getting their kit off in public. Not everywhere though; give them designated areas, I don't want to look at old men wearing nothing save for a pair of socks and sandals.

Against: "Naturism" is a retarded euphemism as it has absolutely nothing to do with nature.

and only if they segragate the ugly people from the attractive ones

we can use age guidelines 40+*. and the rest of us :cool:

*as we all know age is independant of good looks alot of the time, so there will be exceptions, people under 40 on the 40+ beach and vice versa

Jess16

Naturism Good Idea: Hot people
Naturism Bad Idea: Not so hot people

stupidusername

Jess16 wrote: »

Naturism Good Idea: Hot people
Naturism Bad Idea: Not so hot people

Plus one my friend, plus one.

LordSutch

SuperCereal wrote: »

Hello,

I think of naturism and being naked on the beach as completely normal and not a bit pervy or disgusting. I have never met anyone who will out and out say being naked in an appropriate setting such as a secluded beach or designated area is wrong so why is it illegal?

Bad Boy, Dirty Boy in your BED!

Harry Hill

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

galwayrush wrote: »

In Ireland, are you ****ing joking with our weather?:pac:
It would be all blue nipples and shrivelled dicks...

Whereas a pair of patterened shorts provide massive thermal protection...?

Seriously, I've always wondered why some people feel so threatened about nudity. Either seeing it or being seen.

Mr.Biscuits

Against!

Sure wouldn't be able to have any biscuits without the crumbs getting in the most unspeakable of places.

saywhatyousee

Im against it for the simple fact the it would be over run by fella's it would turn into a gayman's paradise .

I Heart Internet

I really don't think it is illegal in Ireland OP. Are you sure it is?

I think being naked in the great outdoors is only illegal if you're doing something lewd, offensive, threatening, etc.

Maybe someone with knowledge of the law can enlighten us.

Swam, sunbathed in the nip in Croatia previously - seemed to be the done thing in the particular spot we were. They had the weather for it too. Feels slightly akward for about 5 seconds then tis grand.

On the flip side (and this isn't naturism, just nakedness in public) - was walking with a friend of mine along a river footpath in England on a lovely summer's afternoon and i turn a corner to see a couple doing it doggy style on a picnic blanket. He skinny and long-haired, she a much larger lady. They saw me and awkwardly stopped/tried to cover up. I walked on like I hadn't noticed. Then had to convince my friend they were actually doing it (as she was a second or two behind me). Thought it was hilarious is one way but this was a busy, sunday afternoon - I could easily have been a 7 year old child coming round the corner. FFS.

Naturism - fine
Discreet outdoor nookie - fine
Doing it doggie-style in a very public place - NO. Stop it!

Rhyme

SuperCereal wrote: »

Is there anyone out there against it?

I'm against it. Right up against it.



Vigorously.

Pace2008

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Whereas a pair of patterened shorts provide massive thermal protection...?

The point wasn't that the shorts would keep you warm, it was that one's penis would tend to be at about a third its normal size in typical Irish weather, and thus best left covered.

Seriously, I've always wondered why some people feel so threatened about nudity. Either seeing it or being seen.

I'm sure it's an inherent sense of shame shared by the Irish; a vestige of our repressive Catholic past. That's the answer you want, isn't it?

later12

Pace2008 wrote: »

The point wasn't that the shorts would keep you warm, it was that one's penis would tend to be at about a third its normal size in typical Irish weather

Eh, 33% its normal size? Really, now?

Wow, I'm going to be hu-ung next Summer.

Chuck Stone

Designated beaches for naked folks.

Why not?

JupiterKid

Ireland is the only country in Europe that doesn't have a legally designated naturist beach. Therefore, naturism in public is not legal but in typical Irish style it is toilerated. The law needs to change in this respect.

The excuse of the weather is always trotted out and it doesn't hold when you consider that Canada, Russia, Finland, Sweden and Denmark all have naturist beaches and are located further north than Ireland.

Live and let live.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Pace2008 wrote: »

The point wasn't that the shorts would keep you warm, it was that one's penis would tend to be at about a third its normal size in typical Irish weather, and thus best left covered.

I'm sure it's an inherent sense of shame shared by the Irish; a vestige of our repressive Catholic past. That's the answer you want, isn't it?

1 - Dunno. I've never measured it. Would explain why the women like foreigners though!!

2 - Not really. I mean, do people still feel a sense of shame? If not then what is it?

And the UK are just as prudish and they dont have a repressive Catholic past.

Scanlas The 2nd

starbelgrade wrote: »

In theory, naturism is great, but in practice most people wait until they turn from good looking young people with great physiques into fat, ugly men with tiny cocks & wrinkly old women with saggy tits before they decide that naturism is a good idea.

Didn't realise your cock shrinks as you get older.

ScumLord

When did nudest become naturist? I don't see how the word nature can be used to mean flapping your tackle in peoples faces.

holystungun9

starbelgrade wrote: »

In theory, naturism is great, but in practice most people wait until they turn from good looking young people with great physiques into fat, ugly men with tiny cocks & wrinkly old women with saggy tits before they decide that naturism is a good idea.

I have to say that in Ireland (yes, I generalize), it seems to take this length of time for people to loosen up (forgive the pun), grow a pair (forgive the pun) and try things they probably always wanted to.

Black Leather

I am all for naturism and practice it as often as possible, here in Ireland and abroad. There is nothing more natural and sensual than to be without clothing and enjoying the great outdoors. In the future, I plan to visit a naturist resort either in France or Spain where I can experience the naturist lifestyle, which will allow me to be naked 24/7.

Dudess

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I've always wondered why some people feel so threatened about nudity. Either seeing it or being seen.

I wouldn't feel threatened, just self conscious, nothing more. Doesn't mean I'm wrong, nor that nudists are wrong.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dudess wrote: »

I wouldn't feel threatened, just self conscious, nothing more. Doesn't mean I'm wrong, nor that nudists are wrong.

Fair enough, but others do! Would you go naked on a beach if no one else was around?

Dudess

If the notion occurred to me, yeah.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dudess wrote: »

If the notion occurred to me, yeah.

And would you be bothered if someone else did (assuming you were still dressed)?

Dudess

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Dudess wrote: »

If the notion occurred to me, yeah.

And would you be bothered if someone else did (assuming you were still dressed)?

I'd find it a bit awkward trying to figure out where to look if they struck up a conversation with me, but otherwise... in a designated be nekkid area, grand, but one naked randomer in an otherwise non naked environment - could be embarrassing.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Dudess wrote: »

I'd find it a bit awkward trying to figure out where to look if they struck up a conversation with me, but otherwise... in a designated be nekkid area, grand, but one naked randomer in an otherwise non naked environment - could be embarrassing.

Therein is the point: you generally don't have a problem with nudity be it yours or someone else's. I think clothing optional beaches would be the way forward, which puts no pressure on anyone to conform.

Pace2008

Black Leather wrote: »

I am all for naturism and practice it as often as possible, here in Ireland and abroad. There is nothing more natural and sensual than to be without clothing and enjoying the great outdoors. In the future, I plan to visit a naturist resort either in France or Spain where I can experience the naturist lifestyle, which will allow me to be naked 24/7.

Not that I care one way or another, but it is actually far more "natural" to wear some sort of clothing in social situations. See: pretty much every society in the history of humankind.

admiralofthefleet

JupiterKid wrote: »

Ireland is the only country in Europe that doesn't have a legally designated naturist beach. Therefore, naturism in public is not legal but in typical Irish style it is toilerated. The law needs to change in this respect.

The excuse of the weather is always trotted out and it doesn't hold when you consider that Canada, Russia, Finland, Sweden and Denmark all have naturist beaches and are located further north than Ireland.

Live and let live.

there is a nudey beach in arklow

Rhyme

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

there is a nudey beach in arklow

What's her name?

ollaetta

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

there is a nudey beach in arklow

And loads of other places: http://www.irishnaturism.org/imagemap.php

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Pace2008 wrote: »

Not that I care one way or another, but it is actually far more "natural" to wear some sort of clothing in social situations. See: pretty much every society in the history of humankind.

I would open a can of worms here and say "traditional" rather than natural...!

Seriosuly, though, yes, but there are certain situations where nudity would be more practical as well as more natural and swimming is one of them. At least on a beach, anyway.

Pace2008

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I would open a can of worms here and say "traditional" rather than natural...!

I'd stick with natural. I'm not talking about western civilisation enforcing their prudish values on every culture throughout the world , I mean in every civilisation the world has known, most of them isolated from each other, it has been the norm to wear some sort of clothing. Even tribes living in hotter regions who seem almost naked from a westerner's point of view still tend to have some sort of adornment, whether it be a loincloth or even body paint. As far as I'm aware, there is not, and has never been, any society in which the denizens do not wear clothes and hence it would seem it is the natural way of things (our hairless anatomy would certainly suggest we've evolved to wear them).

The poster talking about living in a nudist resort and being naked 24/7 - that is certainly not "natural," it is actually very eccentric.

I'd hasten to add that I'm not someone who necessarily believes natural = good and unnatural = bad. In fact, I generally try to avoid using the term as it's probably the most misused word in the English language and has lost pretty much all meaning ("naturism" being a good example of said abuse).

Seriosuly, though, yes, but there are certain situations where nudity would be more practical as well as more natural and swimming is one of them. At least on a beach, anyway.

Maybe so, though even in countries that have nudist or clothing-optional beaches, the majority of people still opt to wear swimwear.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Pace2008 wrote: »

I'd stick with natural. I'm not talking about western civilisation enforcing their prudish values on every culture throughout the world , I mean in every civilisation the world has known, most of them isolated from each other, it has been the norm to wear some sort of clothing. Even tribes living in hotter regions who seem almost naked from a westerner's point of view still tend to have some sort of adornment, whether it be a loincloth or even body paint. As far as I'm aware, there is not, and has never been, any society in which the denizens do not wear clothes and hence it would seem it is the natural way of things (our hairless anatomy would certainly suggest we've evolved to wear them).

The poster talking about living in a nudist resort and being naked 24/7 - that is certainly not "natural," it is actually very eccentric.

I'd hasten to add that I'm not someone who necessarily believes natural = good and unnatural = bad. In fact, I generally try to avoid using the term as it's probably the most misused word in the English language and has lost pretty much all meaning ("naturism" being a good example of said abuse).


Maybe so, though even in countries that have nudist or clothing-optional beaches, the majority of people still opt to wear swimwear.

Not disagreeing with what you say, but from who's perspective are we using the word "natural"? If you went to said 24/7 village and wore clothes, would it still be natural?

Regardign that last point, Denmark. There are very few beaches where there is legal requirement of a swimsuit (or lack thereof for that matter) but in some places, you would actually have the majority going naked. Especially in the islands.

Black Leather

Clothing! How needs it? Being naked is the most natural thing in the world regardless of one's age or physical shape. Living the naturist lifestyle is a most liberating experience and everyone should give it a try. What are people afraid of?

Pace2008

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Not disagreeing with what you say, but from who's perspective are we using the word "natural"? If you went to said 24/7 village and wore clothes, would it still be natural?

Well, I was saying I generally find the word "natural" to be pretty meaningless. What I mean is that when left to their own devices, people in any given society will invariably end up wearing clothes when going about their day-to-day activities. The nudist village/colony/whatever in question isn't a commune that came about "naturally," if you will, it's a collection of people with a very atypical persuasion coming together to create an artificial settlement with like-minded folk.

And more power to them; just don't expect the other 99.99% of the world to take them seriously when they claim they're the ones living as nature intended.

Regardign that last point, Denmark. There are very few beaches where there is legal requirement of a swimsuit (or lack thereof for that matter) but in some places, you would actually have the majority going naked. Especially in the islands.

Fair enough, there are always going to be unusual cases in a big world. I just can't imagine there's any country where the nude bathers outweigh the clothed ones overall.

Pace2008

Black Leather wrote: »

Clothing! How needs it? Being naked is the most natural thing in the world regardless of one's age or physical shape. Living the naturist lifestyle is a most liberating experience and everyone should give it a try. What are people afraid of?

Eh, the majority of Europe would be completely uninhabitable without clothing. Even in our relatively temperate climate you would die of hypothermia on a cold winter's day and burn to crisp on a hot afternoon in July. You could mitigate the latter with suncream, but since that's every bit as unnatural, if not more, as clothing I presume that's off the cards.

So to answer you're question, "Clothing! How[sic] needs it?" Pretty much everybody apart from dark-skinned folk living in an equatorial climate (and they wear it anyway).

Giselle

Black Leather wrote: »

Clothing! How needs it? Being naked is the most natural thing in the world regardless of one's age or physical shape. Living the naturist lifestyle is a most liberating experience and everyone should give it a try. What are people afraid of?

Personally I'll go with bad weather and ugly people.

Scaaaarrry.:(

Kadent

hit eurotrash while flipping through channels last night and there was some dude who ran a naturist group therapy thing and they were all walking around with their gear dangling loose, was like seeing people walking around with turds hanging from their bodies.

John Doe1

For-It lets the ladies see my nob which makes up for my lack of height

Against-Old mens hairy hanging balls