saorview

sam ford

Hi, i have a satallite system[free to air] the control unit is technomate TM-5200D USB,can this unit/system pick up rte digital instead of getting a saorview box/unit,

STB

sam ford wrote: »

Hi, i have a satallite system[free to air] the control unit is technomate TM-5200D USB,can this unit/system pick up rte digital instead of getting a saorview box/unit,

Fraid not sam.

If you want to replace with something that does both you need a Combo receiver - it does Saorview off aerial and satellite off well satellite - one remote and channel list. Ferguson Ariva 120 HD is less than €100. I am presuming you are in Ireland.

Have a look in the terrestrial forum.

sam ford

thanks STB for your reply,is rte digital/saorview operating of a differant satellite? or has this technology [technomate tm-5200]moved on?, i am based in westmeath.

STB

Saorview (RTE1, RTE2 HD, TV3, 3e, Tg4, RTE News Now, RTE+1, RTE Kids) operates terrestrialy (via DVB-T in MPEG4 received through a UHF aerial). You will receive this off an aerial no problem in Westmeath.

The box I suggested has both DVB-T (aerial) and DVB-S2 (satellite) inputs on it and it does both in one channel menu.

Combo boxes are the simplest and only method of delivery of both at the moment.

The British channel you are watching on your Technomate at the moment are on Astra 28.2. Simplistically, Astra 28.2 pattern covers the UK and Ireland and some parts of Europe. RTE is encrypted on 28.2 as there are too many rights issues with the programmes they broadcast. Hence it is encrypted and only available via Sky subscription.

RTE are also testing in the clear and free on satellite 9E. But this service is not operational as yet. Also you will need a different satellite dish with a different Ka LNB (new spot beam technology) and you would also need a switch to switch between both dishes.

Also your Technomate box does not do MPEG4 Video and is not DVB-S2 which it would have to be to decode the 9E satellite anyhow. You do realise that you are missing out on the UK HD channels being broadcast free to air at the moment on 28.2 with the box you are currently using (BBC HD, BBC One HD, Ch4 HD, ITV HD). It might be time for an upgrade.

I was keeping it simple and inexpensive suggesting the Ferguson Ariva 120 Combo. It is the cheapest box that does both UK sat and Irish Saorview in one box. Big thread over in Terrestrial. Satworld are selling them as is Tony from Satellite.ie (posts here as Tony). If you PM him I am sure he will PM you the discount code for boardsies, as he has done for others.

If you like Technomates there are also Technomate HD Combo boxes that also do the same, but they are double the price.

sam ford

Thanks again STB for all that detailed information,i will probaly go with the unit you have mentioned,

watty

STB wrote: »

Combo boxes are the simplest and only method of delivery of both at the moment.

Only if you want one less remote.
A real Freesat HD box is far superior for Freesat and unless a Combo box is certified or at least has MHEG5 you are locking out a major part of Saorview.

Two boxes is the only really simple (no rescans on Satellite) and fully compatible solution right now.

Azi_08

Hi,
I have the Technomate TM-5402HD it has both sat and ant connections on it but i dont know if it will tune it in true the box.

https://satandcable.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/technomate-tm-5402-hd-ciplus%20%283%29.JPG

herzlos

hi how i can get irish channels (rte one,rte two) from arieal

herzlos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrNhpCT9yAA

on this video its showing how you can search rte channels on ferguson.

so how i can serch from technomate 5402?

is anyone has idea

Minstrel27

Does it have a terrestrial tuner built into it?

Peter Rhea

The 'antenna in' on a Technomate 5402 serves the same function as on a Sky box, allowing the signal from the aerial to be combined with the modulated output from the receiver; there's no terrestrial tuner.

herzlos

this is combo box yeah terrestrial aswell but i couldnt find how to search it.

technomate 5402 hd CI+ super+

is anyone usying this box.

herzlos

Peter Rhea wrote: »

The 'antenna in' on a Technomate 5402 serves the same function as on a Sky box, allowing the signal from the aerial to be combined with the modulated output from the receiver; there's no terrestrial tuner.

so when i put in anten cable to box and astra cable to box i can watch rte is am i rite?

Peter Rhea

The box has no terrestrial tuner, so can't decode the Saorview signal.

Who told you it was a combo?

herzlos

Peter Rhea wrote: »

The box has no terrestrial tuner, so can't decode the Saorview signal.

Who told you it was a combo?

i saw in ebay i bought it and i got today on the box tv anten in.

they said its combo box i can watch irish channels free

Peter Rhea

Can you post a link to the seller?

herzlos

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130643457867&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123

herzlos

i check internet and i saw antenna entry and i was thinking i can watch aerial from this box.

Minstrel27

herzlos wrote: »

i saw in ebay i bought it and i got today on the box tv anten in.

they said its combo box i can watch irish channels free

Doing a search on that box and any sites that sell it make no mention of any terrestrial capabilities.

I have a Technomate 6900 which does have a terrestrial tuner and the options I get are in the attachment

The seller you bought the box from also makes no mention of terrestrial

Peter Rhea

The 5402 has a UHF modulator, which allows its output to be distributed to other tvs on coaxial cable & tuned into their analogue tuners.

The antenna connection allows you to also include the off-air signal on the same cable without having to use an external combiner. Sky boxes have the same feature.

herzlos

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Doing a search on that box and any sites that sell it make no mention of any terrestrial capabilities.

I have a Technomate 6900 which does have a terrestrial tuner and the options I get are in the attachment

The seller you bought the box from also makes no mention of terrestrial

i was thinking this box has terrestrial tunner.

herzlos

i dont know which box is better to buy i want to watch irish channels from aerial i want to watch bbc free channels from astra and i want to watch tring sports from eurobird 16.

which box is better to buy.

STB

herzlos wrote: »

i dont know which box is better to buy i want to watch irish channels from aerial i want to watch bbc free channels from astra and i want to watch tring sports from eurobird 16.

which box is better to buy.

If it has to be a technomate, the you might pick up a HD6900 second hand. They have both tuners.

The Ferguson Ariva 120 box does that and is less than €100 brand new.

You will need 2 lnbs on your dish for 13 and 28.2, a bracket to hold them and a Diseq switch.

What do you have at the moment, dish like ?

superstoner90

herzlos wrote: »

hi how i can get irish channels (rte one,rte two) from arieal

Coat hanger.

herzlos

STB wrote: »

If it has to be a technomate, the you might pick up a HD6900 second hand. They have both tuners.

The Ferguson Ariva 120 box does that and is less than €100 brand new.

You will need 2 lnbs on your dish for 13 and 28.2, a bracket to hold them and a Diseq switch.

What do you have at the moment, dish like ?

i bought ferguson first then i couldnt setup diseqc.

i have 110 cm hotbird dish and 55 for astra dish

i setup everything i can get bbc and rte is when i want to get chaneels from hotbird it was no singnal that is the way i said to myself technomate will be good.

i couldnt setup diseqc on ariva 120

STB

herzlos wrote: »

i bought ferguson first then i couldnt setup diseqc.

i have 110 cm hotbird dish and 55 for astra dish

i setup everything i can get bbc and rte is when i want to get chaneels from hotbird it was no singnal that is the way i said to myself technomate will be good.

i couldnt setup diseqc on ariva 120

What Diseq switch are you using ?

You connect both your dishes (you dont actually need two dishes but anyway) to the diseq switch. Connect the LNB from dish 1 to the switch and then the LNB from dish 2 to the switch and then you have a one cable feed back to your box - that cable goes into the one labelled output. Yeah ?

Then on the your Ferguson you go into Installation menu, the satellite name is displayed on top, just go down to Diseq 1 and choose the port you have the LNB connected to on your diseq switch. Then do the same for the other satellite.

I presume you arent taken the piss.

herzlos

yeah i made port 1 and port 2 its hortbird gettin singnal when im going to search channel all failed no channels from hotbird and i was thinking diseqc is not good i change diseqc still same i will get mad i was using firmware 2.15B8
if i put straight to hotbird its no problem if i put straght to astra its no problem but couldnt setup diseqc

STB

herzlos wrote: »

yeah i made port 1 and port 2 its hortbird gettin singnal when im going to search channel all failed no channels from hotbird and i was thinking diseqc is not good i change diseqc still same i will get mad i was using firmware 2.15B8
if i put straight to hotbird its no problem if i put straght to astra its no problem but couldnt setup diseqc

What percentage signal strength are you getting with hotbird connected without diseq?

What percentage signal strength are you getting with Atra connected without diseq?

If it is 70% plus on both, try other LNB inputs on diseq switch as one might be blown. Check cable connection coming back to box etc.

Re aerial for Saorview, where are you from ?

Ms Happy

Sorry to hijack, could I ask whether this is a good stater kit? It's for my father in law so he just wants the basics.

Ta

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Irish-Saorview-DTT-DIY-KIT-MPEG4-Golden-Media-HD-PVR-Receiver-UHF-Aerial-/150664283733?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item23144a8655#ht_1666wt_1110

herzlos

im from Turkey im living Dublin i put box one pub in litrum yeah im gettin more than 70 without diseqc nova sports working perfect and im getting rteone and two from saorview no problem when i put diseqcs hotbird and astra i can get allastra channels and disecqs cant see hotbird. and they want to bbc channels aswell and i other new box technomate i was thinkin itscombo and it wasnt combo.
and i order at the moment tring plus card i going to put tring sports and bbc channels.
that is the way im lookin for good box.

maybe i was thinkin one of the lnb has to change it will be ok
orginal sky lnb and unuversal lnb on the dish

herzlos

Ms Happy wrote: »

Sorry to hijack, could I ask whether this is a good stater kit? It's for my father in law so he just wants the basics.

Ta

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Irish-Saorview-DTT-DIY-KIT-MPEG4-Golden-Media-HD-PVR-Receiver-UHF-Aerial-/150664283733?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item23144a8655#ht_1666wt_1110

im buying lots of things from him no problem.

STB

Ms Happy wrote: »

Sorry to hijack, could I ask whether this is a good stater kit? It's for my father in law so he just wants the basics.

Ta

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Irish-Saorview-DTT-DIY-KIT-MPEG4-Golden-Media-HD-PVR-Receiver-UHF-Aerial-/150664283733?pt=UK_ConEle_SatCableFreeview_RL&hash=item23144a8655#ht_1666wt_1110

No. Do not touch that for a start. Its not even Saorview approved nevermind a rip off.

What are the basics ? What channels does he expect.

Does he have an aerial at the moment ? Does he have an existing satellite dish ?

STB

herzlos wrote: »

im from Turkey im living Dublin i put box one pub in litrum yeah im gettin more than 70 without diseqc nova sports working perfect and im getting rteone and two from saorview no problem when i put diseqcs hotbird and astra i can get allastra channels and disecqs cant see hotbird. and they want to bbc channels aswell and i other new box technomate i was thinkin itscombo and it wasnt combo.
and i order at the moment tring plus card i going to put tring sports and bbc channels.
that is the way im lookin for good box.

maybe i was thinkin one of the lnb has to change it will be ok
orginal sky lnb and unuversal lnb on the dish

Diseqs ?

You have one Diseq switch ? Show me pictures of what you have and the way you have this set up.

Is Fawlty towers on all the channels ?

herzlos

STB wrote: »

No. Do not touch that for a start. Its not even Saorview approved nevermind a rip off.

What are the basics ? What channels does he expect.

Does he have an aerial at the moment ? Does he have an existing satellite dish ?

yeah they have aerial and hotbird now

i have to put astra aswell

if i can.

herzlos

STB wrote: »

Diseqs ?

You have one Diseq switch ? Show me pictures of what you have and the way you have this set up.

Is Fawlty towers on all the channels ?

what is Fawlty?

STB

That answer was to the other poster herzlos.

Take a picture or 2 of your setup and post here. Partcularly the diseq switch and the box you are using etc.

herzlos

ok i will go to litrum in two weeks i will bring an other box with me if its still same i will take picture and i will put here

thanks for helping