Santa killed by Muslim fanatics

Santa killed by Muslim fanatics for being ‘infidel’ in Tajikistan
http://news.am/eng/news/88071.html


DUSHANBE. – An outrageous incident occurred in Dushanbe, Tajikistan, where a group of religious fanatics killed Santa Claus.
Parvis Davlatbekov wore as Santa Claus to congratulate his friends for the New Year. However, a group of fanatics attacked and stabbed him by crying ‘infidel’ in the street.
The young man died on Monday without coming into consciousness. The unprecedented tragic incident is widely discussed in Facebook, ITARR-TASS reports.
Tajikistani MFA acknowledged officially the incident. However, it rejected that the brutal killing occurred on religious grounds but claims it was a regular violence.
Meantime, local media calls to pay attention to the discussions whether it is right to celebrate the New Year in a state where 98 % of population is Muslims.

So much for goodwill to all men! RIP

Chuck Stone

Evil Bastards.

Zebra3

Misleading thread title.

Wasn't really Santa.

FearDark

"religious fanatics"

Just say Muslims.

ejmaztec

Zebra3 wrote: »

Misleading thread title.

Wasn't really Santa.

He would have whupped em good.

earpiece

Santa has often been mistaken by dyslexics for Satan.......just another victim!

RichieC

Absolutely disgracful. Sounds like a lovely place this er..derkistan

PseudoFamous

Meantime, local media calls to pay attention to the discussions whether it is right to celebrate the New Year in a state where 98 % of population is Muslims.

Are they trying to suggest that it's wrong to celebrate the New Year in a state where 98% of the population is Muslim?

I would imagine around 2% of the Irish population is Muslim, that doesn't mean that they cannot celebrate whatever they want, and frankly I don't give a shit, so long as it has no negative impact on anyone else.

Mr Benevolent

Muslims - A great bunch of lads.

ejmaztec

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Are they trying to suggest that it's wrong to celebrate the New Year in a state where 98% of the population is Muslim?

I would imagine around 2% of the Irish population is Muslim, that doesn't mean that they cannot celebrate whatever they want, and frankly I don't give a shit, so long as it has no negative impact on anyone else.

They saw the red suit and thought the commies had come back to force them back into the Soviet Union.

mackg

What happens now? Does an elf replace him or is there some sort of election? Norris for Santa!

Chuck Stone

Confab wrote: »

Muslims - A great bunch of lads.

Here we go...

Sparks43

mackg wrote: »

What happens now? Does an elf replace him or is there some sort of election? Norris for Santa!

Like the pope we all wait for red smoke to come out of the chimney

The_Kew_Tour

99.99% Muslims are fine.

Just few bad ones in this case like all religions

Yahew

I always thought these 'stan places weren't very religious.

doyle61

Better not go there dressed as the Easter bunny so

KeithAFC

Confab wrote: »

Muslims - A great bunch of lads.

I can't disagree.

MungBean

I agree with Tangstdimjani BFF, it was a regular violence.

Immaculate Pasta

Meh Christmas had a good run I suppose :cool:

Ellis Dee

FearDark wrote: »

"religious fanatics"

Just say Muslims.

Yes.;) It's great that there are no Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and what are you having yourself fanatics. And that no one has ever been killed by a fanatical member of any of those groups.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nor, of course, by any Armenian fanatics.

booboo88

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

99.99% Muslims are fine.

Just few bad ones in this case like all religions

Just like the perv priests. Not all catholic priests are b*stards

MungBean

booboo88 wrote: »

Just like the perv priests. Not all catholic priests are b*stards

No but ya still wouldnt trust one as far as ya could fcukin throw em.

RichieC

KeithAFC wrote: »

I can't disagree.

Says the sectarian bigot... Ironing indeed.

KeithAFC

RichieC wrote: »

Says the sectarian bigot... Ironing indeed.

What? I was agreeing with him. Muslims are nice people.

Kevin Duffy

"stabbed him by crying ‘infidel’ in the street."

It's a piercing word alright, but surely they'd have needed something sharper?

RIP. Poor fella. Hope the culprits serve a lot of time.

partyatmygaff

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Yes.;) It's great that there are no Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and what are you having yourself fanatics. And that no one has ever been killed by a fanatical member of any of those groups.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nor, of course, by any Armenian fanatics.

There are more Christians than Muslims on the planet. Consequently, one would expect there to be far more reports of incidents involving Christians than Muslims if extremism was the only factor involved.

Funnily enough, that's not the case.

ejmaztec

mackg wrote: »

What happens now? Does an elf replace him or is there some sort of election? Norris for Santa!

I wouldn't want him (or anyone else) cumming down my chimney.

MungBean

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

"stabbed him by crying ‘infidel’ in the street."

It's a piercing word alright, but surely they'd have needed something sharper?

RIP. Poor fella. Hope the culprits serve a lot of time.

Piercing cry and a few sharp looks. Fcuker never stood a chance

Chuck Stone

FearDark wrote: »

"religious fanatics"

Just say Muslims.

Did the large letters in the title confuse you?

Santa killed by Muslim fanatics for being ‘infidel’ in Tajikistan

RichieC

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Ellis Dee wrote: »

Yes.;) It's great that there are no Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and what are you having yourself fanatics. And that no one has ever been killed by a fanatical member of any of those groups.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nor, of course, by any Armenian fanatics.

There are more Christians than Muslims on the planet. Consequently, one would expect there to be far more reports of incidents involving Christians than Muslims if extremism was the only factor involved.

Funnily enough, that's not the case.

Not really a fair comparison to be honest.

Yahew

RichieC wrote: »

Not really a fair comparison to be honest.

Why?

Chuck Stone

partyatmygaff wrote: »

There are more Christians than Muslims on the planet. Consequently, one would expect there to be far more reports of incidents involving Christians than Muslims if extremism was the only factor involved.

Funnily enough, that's not the case.

True, if you ignore the thousands of dead Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan killed by Christians soldiers.

ejmaztec

Chuck Stone wrote: »

True, if you ignore the thousands of dead Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan killed by Christians soldiers.

I reckon that a fair old whack of them were killed by fellow Muslims.

partyatmygaff

Chuck Stone wrote: »

True, if you ignore the thousands of dead Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan killed by Christians soldiers.

Is the entire US Military is composed of Christians?

Are the Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and people of other religions in the US military mercenaries?

No offence to you or the people who've thanked your past, but how anyone of sound mind could possibly consider the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as being religiously motivated is beyond me.

Yahew

Chuck Stone wrote: »

True, if you ignore the thousands of dead Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan killed by Christians soldiers.

Not true if you don't ignore the entire obliteration of Christians in Iraq by Muslim forces, and the fact that most killings in Iraq have been Muslim on Muslim.

Yahew

Yahew wrote: »

I always thought these 'stan places weren't very religious.

Like the rest of the FSU, religion was suppressed during the Soviet era, and sprung back (sometimes overshooting) after the collapse.

Yahew

Deleted User wrote: »

Like the rest of the FSU, religion was suppressed during the Soviet era, and sprung back (sometimes overshooting) after the collapse.

Even now though. Moderate, comparatively.

RichieC

Yahew wrote: »

RichieC wrote: »

Not really a fair comparison to be honest.

Why?

Because in terms of economic standards if living, education and political freedom they just cabnot be compared like with like with Christians. Theres desperate situations some of these people live in and are being taken advantage of by the better off and better educated muslims ala the bin ladins of the world with axes to grind, legitimate or otherwise.

If the middle east ever catches up to our standard of living and the fanatisism hasnr ceased in such numbers I'll concede the point.

partyatmygaff

RichieC wrote: »

Because in terms of economic standards if living, education and political freedom they just cabnot be compared like with like with Christians. Theres desperate situations some of these people live in and are being taken advantage of by the better off and better educated muslims ala the bin ladins of the world with axes to grind, legitimate or otherwise.

If the middle east ever catches up to our standard of living and the fanatisism hasnr ceased in such numbers I'll concede the point.

Not all extremists or terrorists come from poor backgrounds.

Probably the most famous example is Osama bin Laden who came from a wealthy Saudi Arabian family. He didn't start off as a leader.

Then there's the numerous other examples of extremist pawns who were born and raised in the West.

ejmaztec

Deleted User wrote: »

Like the rest of the FSU, religion was suppressed during the Soviet era, and sprung back (sometimes overshooting) after the collapse.

One of the bad things about the break-up of the SU. At least they kept tabs on the nutters when Moscow was calling the shots, and dealt with them accordingly (and covered up the evidence afterwards).

Chuck Stone

Yahew wrote: »

Not true if you don't ignore the entire obliteration of Christians in Iraq by Muslim forces

Total rubbish.

The US, between sanctions and war, in Iraq alone has killed at least 250,000 Muslims.

I have deliberately selected "low-end" estimates for Muslim fatalities, so these figures present the "best case" for the United States. Even so, the United States has killed nearly 30 Muslims for every American lost. The real ratio is probably much higher, and a reasonable upper bound for Muslim fatalities (based mostly on higher estimates of "excess deaths" in Iraq due to the sanctions regime and the post-2003 occupation) is well over one million, equivalent to over 100 Muslim fatalities for every American lost.

http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/11/30/why_they_hate_us_ii_how_many_muslims_has_the_us_killed_in_the_past_30_years

and the fact that most killings in Iraq have been Muslim on Muslim.

Irrelevant.

old_aussie

Christians & Jewish martyrs say; "I will die for what I believe".

A Muslim martyr says; "you will die for what I believe"....

Bandana boy

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

99.99% Muslims are fine.

Just few bad ones in this case like all religions

Except that this is not true

Lets get past the PC cr@p.

Way more than 0.01% of Muslims think
a)that women are an inferior race.
b)that Homosexuals are an offence to God
c)that conversion by violence is acceptable
d)that the laws of the country should align with Muslim doctrine

I know other religions are guilty of this ,but not to the same extent.
Its a backward cult and should be shown no respect and allowed no leniency

RichieC

partyatmygaff wrote: »

RichieC wrote: »

Because in terms of economic standards if living, education and political freedom they just cabnot be compared like with like with Christians. Theres desperate situations some of these people live in and are being taken advantage of by the better off and better educated muslims ala the bin ladins of the world with axes to grind, legitimate or otherwise.

If the middle east ever catches up to our standard of living and the fanatisism hasnr ceased in such numbers I'll concede the point.

Not all extremists or terrorists come from poor backgrounds.

Probably the most famous example is Osama bin Laden who came from a wealthy Saudi Arabian family. He didn't start off as a leader.

Then there's the numerous other examples of extremist pawns who were born and raised in the West.

I mentioned him. He didnt even start off as a terrorist. Rather a CIA asset.

It doesnt sidestep my point. There has been Christian suicide attacks. Usually christians in the same dire situation.

One could also argue the suicide attacks are more motivated by politics than religion too. Though that doesnt really fit with the right wing led clash of worlds narrative

goose2005

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

99.99% Muslims are fine.

Just few bad ones in this case like all religions

I don't really buy the idea that Islam is just like other religions. Jesus, Buddha, etc. didn't lead armies to conquest, didn't order their soldiers to rape captive women, didn't prescribe the death sentence for "apostates", didn't write on every second page of their holy book that unbelievers are scum, didn't sleep with little girls, didn't torture people (Ibn Ishaq 764), didn't buy, sell, own and rape slaves.

Yes, there are nasty, sexist, intolerant, stupid, etc. parts to Christianity, but they can be argued away. In Islam they can't, because the entire faith is built on Muhammad's words and actions, which are by any standard pretty awful, and the faith is explicit that his is the final, lasting and eternal revelation of God, and anyone who modifies it is not a Muslim. (Moses, David, the Jewish God also did pretty awful things, but Judaism can get around it because it's a continuous process, rather than Islam's final revelation.)

Chuck Stone

No offence to you or the people who've thanked your past, but how anyone of sound mind could possibly consider the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan as being religiously motivated is beyond me.

Could you clarify what you mean by the below if you don't mind.

partyatmygaff wrote: »

There are more Christians than Muslims on the planet. Consequently, one would expect there to be far more reports of incidents involving Christians than Muslims if extremism was the only factor involved.

Funnily enough, that's not the case.

If extremism is not the only factor involved then what are you suggesting is?

partyatmygaff

RichieC wrote: »

It doesnt sidestep my point. There has been Christian suicide attacks. Usually christians in the same dire situation.

One could also argue the suicide attacks are more motivated by politics than religion too. Though that doesnt really fit with the right wing led clash of worlds narrative

For one, incidents involving Christians are extremely rare and often are more political than religious in nature. On the other hand, how often do you hear of terrorist acts or incidents involving Muslims? Sure, some of them may be partially politically motivated but there's a huge number that are solely religiously motivated. This one being a prime example.

What dire situation leads you to kill an innocent fellow countryman who did nothing more than wear an "Infidel-related" Santa costume on New Year's eve?

Chuck Stone

partyatmygaff wrote: »

What dire situation leads you to kill an innocent fellow countryman who did nothing more than wear an "Infidel-related" Santa costume on New Year's eve?

There have plenty of innocent people killed up north for wearing the wrong sports jersey by groups of thugs.

There was a young man of Indian extraction killed in Salford recently (probably by white guys) is that indicative of being white or does that mean they are just evil scumbags?

Archeron

mackg wrote: »

What happens now? Does an elf replace him or is there some sort of election? Norris for Santa!

If its an election, this time I'm going for Dana. The new spirit of Christmas will be Santana, and there would be nothing better than waking up on Christmas morn and finding a cool Mexican rock guitarist in your living room.

RichieC

partyatmygaff wrote: »

RichieC wrote: »

It doesnt sidestep my point. There has been Christian suicide attacks. Usually christians in the same dire situation.

One could also argue the suicide attacks are more motivated by politics than religion too. Though that doesnt really fit with the right wing led clash of worlds narrative

For one, incidents involving Christians are extremely rare and often are more political than religious in nature. On the other hand, how often do you hear of terrorist acts or incidents involving Muslims? Sure, some of them may be partially politically motivated but there's a huge number that are solely religiously motivated. This one being a prime example.

What dire situation leads you to kill an innocent fellow countryman who did nothing more than wear an "Infidel-related" Santa costume on New Year's eve?

Palastinians are only partially politically motivated?

Cop on, mate...

Nodin

One shouldn't allow acts of hate and bigotry (assuming the story is true and as presented) to be an excuse for more of the same.