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installing a stove

  • 02-01-2012 1:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭


    I put a stove in front of my open fire ,took the grate out ,attached a rite angle pipe to the back of the stove,it does not reach the chimney flu,but it is working fine there is no smoke in sitting room seems to be a good draw on chimney ,also baught a carbon manoxide alarm just in case.Should I attach the rite angle pipe to the flu ,if so how or is it ok the way it is .It is installed 4 months now with no problems


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭robertxxx


    Yes, especially if the flue is there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Jimbob1234


    bulbs2010 wrote: »
    I put a stove in front of my open fire ,took the grate out ,attached a rite angle pipe to the back of the stove,it does not reach the chimney flu,but it is working fine there is no smoke in sitting room seems to be a good draw on chimney ,also baught a carbon manoxide alarm just in case.Should I attach the rite angle pipe to the flu ,if so how or is it ok the way it is .It is installed 4 months now with no problems



    I have the same setup with about 7 years without any problems


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Euripides_


    Jimbob1234 wrote: »



    I have the same setup with about 7 years without any problems


    Do both you guys mean to say you have free-standing stoves sitting in front of open fire with simple right-angle pipes pointing up chimney with nothing sealed? I have 4 days and thinking of putting in a stove as surprise for someone. It's the sealing everything up part that I'm trying to figure out. It's a standard terraced house in estate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Euripides_


    Jimbob1234 wrote: »



    I have the same setup with about 7 years without any problems


    Do both you guys mean to say you have free-standing stoves sitting in front of open fire with simple right-angle pipes pointing up chimney with nothing sealed? I have 4 days and thinking of putting in a stove as surprise for someone. It's the sealing everything up part that I'm trying to figure out. It's a standard terraced house in estate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 439 ✭✭North West


    Hi Bulbs
    It is not acceptable and asking for trouble. You are sitting on a time bomb. Maybe it's now, but it could turn out very dangerous. There are gases come of coal, blocks etc that you burn in your stove and any of those gases could form in any part behind stove and could explode causing serious damage and maybe loss of life. When flue is cold gases can linger in flue and all you need is a bad suction of flue where smoke is slow or clogging chimney. This is where you will gas build up and a spark and boom. Serious damage and maybe explosion.

    Get a proper flexible flue from the back of the stove and up to the top of chimney and fill flue with insulation.
    Consult a qualified stove installer immediately. Do not chance an open fire situation as a solid fuel chimney
    NW


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭wayoutwest


    O.P - Even if you can't afford a full length liner, at least seal an adapter into the existing flue, and connect your stove to that. As N.W has said -the way that you have it is potentially dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭rje66


    if your right angle pipe from stove and flue are close together, fire wool could be squeezed into gap preventing any problems.

    also if there is a gap and when fire is not lit, surely you are losing heat from room up through this gap.:mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭bulbs2010


    North West wrote: »
    Hi Bulbs
    It is not acceptable and asking for trouble. You are sitting on a time bomb. Maybe it's now, but it could turn out very dangerous. There are gases come of coal, blocks etc that you burn in your stove and any of those gases could form in any part behind stove and could explode causing serious damage and maybe loss of life. When flue is cold gases can linger in flue and all you need is a bad suction of flue where smoke is slow or clogging chimney. This is where you will gas build up and a spark and boom. Serious damage and maybe explosion.

    Get a proper flexible flue from the back of the stove and up to the top of chimney and fill flue with insulation.
    Consult a qualified stove installer immediately. Do not chance an open fire situation as a solid fuel chimney
    NW
    thanks for advice will do as you said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 648 ✭✭✭PeteHeat


    Carbon Monoxide Kills

    Not Might Kill it does and has killed people in their own homes where they believe they are safe.

    Please take a look at Part J of the building regulations, it's free you don't have to read it all the guidance document should suffice Click Here

    Please if can't comply with the regulations, good working practices or manufacturers instructions at least rely on common sense, it could be your children you kill with such dangerous installations.
    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 459 ✭✭Paranoid Mandroid


    whats the story with the insert stoves? I was shopping around and some of the stove/firplace dealers I talked to said you don't need to add a flue to some of them. I was looking at the cheaper ranged ones like this:

    http://www.mullendomestic.com/Dimplex-Westcott-4kW-Inset-Stove

    It mentions:
    Can be installed without a flue-liner in a suitable, good-condition chimney

    I'm sure these ones are sealed tight against the fireplace etc but still. If I was going for one of these, I think I'd be making sure to fit a carbon monoxide alarm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭gingergirl


    Hi, query about poor draw on stove, I have stove pipe placed into chimney and about an inch and half gap around it. Should I seal or fill this gap for better draw? Would rock wool be okay? Thanks in advance


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