Jaguar XF

treatyman

Hi all,

I drove a 08 2.7D Premium Luxury XF recently and loved it... I am seriously tempted to buy one... Looks like a '08 would be just affordable for me.. Does anyone have any information on these? Are they reliable?

Besides the high tax band are there many other negatives?

Thanks

EPM

I know some of the range rovers using that engine have oil pump problems but don't know about the Jag. Seriously do it anyway!

A friend has a 2007 Disco with the same engine, he's on his third diesel pump iirc, based in Cork so presumably the forecourt diesel he buys isn't the issue. He does lots of miles though and uses it as a work horse. Servicing costs are quite reasonable though, even the timing belt change wasn't overly expensive at the dealers.

Lex Luthor

Would get the 3.0 diesel if you can. More power, less emissions. Not sure of what came on them back in 08 but think Luxury spec is plenty enough.
UK has way more options available...love them myself. Saw a facelifted 11 reg yesterday in black...gorgeous

Drummerboy08

Think I'd have one of these over the equivilent BMW, or Mercedes, or Audi come to think of it.

Something different, cracking car to drive, gorgeous to look at too. And I'm a sucker for the gearknob!

Nissan doctor

treatyman wrote: »

Hi all,

I drove a 08 2.7D Premium Luxury XF recently and loved it... I am seriously tempted to buy one... Looks like a '08 would be just affordable for me.. Does anyone have any information on these? Are they reliable?

Besides the high tax band are there many other negatives?

Thanks

Do you mean just affordable to buy or just affordable overall?

Premium cars like this can be very expensive to properly maintain so keep in mind there is a lot more expense involved then just the initial purchase of the car.

If you can afford it though, then I'd go for it, much classier car then the 'everyonesgotone' 5 series IMO.

Marcusm

2.7 is an older model not so well respected as the 3.0. Have you thought of looking at the 2.2D which was recently released? Would that give you enough power?

Lex Luthor

Marcusm wrote: »

2.7 is an older model not so well respected as the 3.0. Have you thought of looking at the 2.2D which was recently released? Would that give you enough power?

Maybe its outside the OP's budget

treatyman

Thanks for all the replies and Happy New Year... Hope everyone will get to own the car they want this year ;););)

The new 2.2 is out of my price range unfortunately.. At the moment I am driving a 04 A6 TD... gearbox is starting to whine again and it being reconditioned 2 years ago (about 25k miles ago) so I am getting sick of it..

Always wanted a 520 but drove the XF and loved it... I am doing very little miles (about 30 a day and maybe 200 at the weekend) so i was thinking i would afford to run a car like this...

What would a standard service cost compared to a 520?

Marcusm

treatyman wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies and Happy New Year... Hope everyone will get to own the car they want this year ;););)

The new 2.2 is out of my price range unfortunately.. At the moment I am driving a 04 A6 TD... gearbox is starting to whine again and it being reconditioned 2 years ago (about 25k miles ago) so I am getting sick of it..

Always wanted a 520 but drove the XF and loved it... I am doing very little miles (about 30 a day and maybe 200 at the weekend) so i was thinking i would afford to run a car like this...

What would a standard service cost compared to a 520?

What price are you looking at? From what I see on car zone, I would expect an asking of €33k or higher. Did you see the 3.0L petrol at €26k. At your mileage I would seriously consider it.

350 miles a week in a 3.0 petrol could well cost over two grand a year extra in fuel costs, also t.e petrol would have a tiny resale market, definitely worth sitting down with the figures though, especially if there's the guts of ten grand difference in purchase costs.

Lex Luthor

the colour combo of the petrol would not be my cup of tea...but at 26k is worth a look

Is the SE spec only available with the facelifted model? Just wondering was Luxury the basic spec when the XF first came out then Premium Luxury & Portfolio, whereas now they have 4 specs...!!!

Mr.David

Don't buy one made in the first 6 months of production trust me

The 2.7 is pretty reliable as far as I know, check all the electronics obviously but it should be a safe enough bet.

L-M

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Jaguar/Xj/Executiv/201102200868426/advert?channel=CARS



€25k!!!

L-M

treatyman wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Jaguar/XF/Premium-/201149206020768/advert?channel=CARS

I'd much prefer the XF to be honest.. A fist of cash could buy this a few k off asking price? Ive never bought a car from a garage :eek:

I'd throw an offer of 20 grand cash monies boss, and see how you go from there.

If the salesman faints, offer a grand or two more until he regains conscious.

mickdw

Mr.David wrote: »

Don't buy one made in the first 6 months of production trust me

Seeing as this guy worked on development of the XF, it would be wise to listen to that.

Its no doubt true for most cars though too.

L-M

mickdw wrote: »

Seeing as this guy worked on development of the XF, it would be wise to listen to that.

Its no doubt true for most cars though too.

Reckon that myself, too.

treatyman

Mr.David wrote: »

Don't buy one made in the first 6 months of production trust me

The 2.7 is pretty reliable as far as I know, check all the electronics obviously but it should be a safe enough bet.

I'll check that out... Thanks for the heads up.. I won't even ask why not to buy one in the first 6 months of production!

Lex Luthor

Limerick man wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Jaguar/Xj/Executiv/201102200868426/advert?channel=CARS



€25k!!!

Thats a steal....

911s

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Thats a steal....

Were looking for 31 grand for this car. Dropping fast. Even though it's registered 2008 it seems to be a pre'08 model and this may be slowing down interest as '08 models can be had for this money. Let me know when it reaches 17 - 18,000 as it would a nice alternative to BMW 5 SERIES and AUDI A6 and still be in a car class above them.

exador

treatyman wrote: »

I'll check that out... Thanks for the heads up.. I won't even ask why not to buy one in the first 6 months of production!

check with a jaguar dealer that that the GEAR CHANGE MODULE has been changed in the past few weeks if you buy one. All XF's are getting these changed under warranty. Other than that they are a cracking car and don;t give any diesel pump problems like the LR Discovery/ rr sport with the 2.7 engine...

heate

An xf 2.7d is similarly priced to its petrol sibling.
The only advantage to buying a petrol is that there is potentially less to go wrong but they are virtually unsaleable.
The 2.7 asfaik is a Peugeot engine so parts may be cross available and that might help on servicing costs.
Jaguar's have on the whole apparently been very reliable in the past few years. My former boss was on his 3rd 2003-2008 XJ8 and never had a bother

Lex Luthor

911s wrote: »

Even though it's registered 2008 it seems to be a pre'08 model and this may be slowing down interest as '08 models can be had for this money.

There was a facelift in 08 so maybe thats the reason but pre 08 cars still look smart

911s wrote: »

Let me know when it reaches 17 - 18,000

pburns

Anyone else notice that searching for a XF on driving.ie brings up null results? It's been like that for months...

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=search&maxrows=100&MakeID=12&xMakeID=12&ModelID=32303&xModelID=32303&Year=&xYear=&submit=Find+cars+%3E%3E&make=Jaguar&model=XF

mickdw

Its been like that since the xf was introduced. Its the only car I go to carzone site for.

mickdw

mickdw wrote: »

......... Its the only car I go to carzone site for.

I rarely stray from DoneDeal

Lex Luthor

pburns wrote: »

Anyone else notice that searching for a XF on driving.ie brings up null results? It's been like that for months...

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=search&maxrows=100&MakeID=12&xMakeID=12&ModelID=32303&xModelID=32303&Year=&xYear=&submit=Find+cars+%3E%3E&make=Jaguar&model=XF

Ya its a strange one. I just search for a diesel jag post 08 max price 35k and then cry

Curious Geroge

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Think I'd have one of these over the equivilent BMW, or Mercedes, or Audi come to think of it.

+1. looked at these and the A5 a couple of months back (and still looking)..

Mr.David wrote: »

Don't buy one made in the first 6 months of production trust me.

I assume that any 08 would have had the re-call done and be ok now since there is a 3 year warrenty ?


15 Diesel 08 XF's on Carzone, none on donedeal v's 155 08 520's and dozens more on donedeal, let us know how you get on with the purchase.

Padraig Mor

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Would get the 3.0 diesel if you can. More power, less emissions. Not sure of what came on them back in 08 but think Luxury spec is plenty enough.
UK has way more options available...love them myself. Saw a facelifted 11 reg yesterday in black...gorgeous

OP should bear in mind that, due to its lower emissions, an imported 3.0D can have lower VRT than an equivalent 2.7D, i.e. buy right and the newer 3.0 may not actually cost much if any more than the 2.7 by the time you have it landed. Lower tax of course as well. WRT specs: the Luxury has all the necessities - leather, auto, nav. From memory, Premium Luxury adds xenons, front sensors, nicer alloys and various automatic bits and bobs. They don't seem to carry a huge price premium either so may be worth searching out. Portfolio was a much more expensive spec, and very rare.


edit: just checked autotrader, and these have really come down in price in the UK!

R.O.R

Pricing, Specification's and Options for Ireland from November 2007 (Launch I think) are on the attached spreadsheets. Not sure whether UK spec was the same or different to Ireland.

WillyWonka

Padraig Mor wrote: »

OP should bear in mind that, due to its lower emissions, an imported 3.0D can have lower VRT than an equivalent 2.7D, i.e. buy right and the newer 3.0 may not actually cost much if any more than the 2.7 by the time you have it landed. Lower tax of course as well. WRT specs: the Luxury has all the necessities - leather, auto, nav. From memory, Premium Luxury adds xenons, front sensors, nicer alloys and various automatic bits and bobs. They don't seem to carry a huge price premium either so may be worth searching out. Portfolio was a much more expensive spec, and very rare.


edit: just checked autotrader, and these have really come down in price in the UK!

Thinking of getting the 09 XF 3.0 diesel myself from the UK. Drove a 2.7 here and was impressed. Would have to get F10 11 reg M Sport to compare to it which is €€€.

Why have they come down so much in the UK? Poor resale value starting to show?

Padraig Mor

WillyWonka wrote: »

Why have they come down so much in the UK? Poor resale value starting to show?

I suppose the earlier ones are pushing 4 years old now and, given the class of car, probably have a decent few miles under the belt as well. 2.7D now less desirable as well due to the newer engines. Also seems to be a good supply of them in the UK - I guess they're fairly popular. Was keeping my eye on prices the first couple of years after launch and the second hand price was keeping surprisingly close to the new price at that time.

heate

I'd be of the option the 2.2d is a more direct comparison to the 2.7d as such the 2.7 is old hat and regardless of its new price hansn't lost enough after 4 years - €30k hen the 2.2d is what €45k? And a 3.0 is €55k
Only €4k a year in depreciation? doesn't sound right for an executive saloon

Padraig Mor

heate wrote: »

I'd be of the option the 2.2d is a more direct comparison to the 2.7d as such the 2.7 is old hat and regardless of its new price hansn't lost enough after 4 years - €30k hen the 2.2d is what €45k? And a 3.0 is €55k
Only €4k a year in depreciation? doesn't sound right for an executive saloon

Was looking at the UK prices really - now in the £13k range for the 2.7D. The 2.7D was - IIRC - around €67k here initially.

edit: originally €70k ex works in 2008.

WillyWonka

Just found a good description on the difference between luxury and premium luxury.

http://www.jaguar-xf-blog.com/2008/06/buyers-guides-luxury-or-premium-luxury.html

Big price difference between the two. When importing a 09 there's an almost 3k extra on the PL!!

jmcginle

Hi,

I've got the 2.7 '08 model. I didn't buy it new, but have it a few years so know it well. On the one hand I'd say it's the best car I've ever had, extremely smooth ride (I clock up a good few miles every week), really comfortable, great gearbox for an automatic and enough power when you need it. Plus I think it's the best looking car on the road unless your willing to fork out for a DB9. That said, it has given quite a few problems, luckily for me most of those happen within the 3 year warrenty, so were fixed for free. The early model is know for issue with the fuel cap sticking and the internal lights coming on/off due to sensor issues. On top of that I had an issue with a door handle, a window sensor and a steering sensor. It seems the more technology you cram in the more there is to go wrong. They are also prone to EGR value issues, which while not as serious as it sounds can be 500+ to fix. Also aslo need to be aware of the road tax which is in teh 1K+ bracket.

I'd recommend checking the service history closely. Hopefully it was serviced by a Jag dealer for the first 3 years, so you should be able to find out what was fixed. If some of the stuff I mentioned was replaced then it's probably good news as it is less likely to go again.

Despite the issues, I'll probably get another in a couple of years time. Though I'd probably let the 2.2 model age a bit and then pick one up as forking out 1K a year on tax does get opainfull!

WillyWonka

jmcginle wrote: »

Hi,

I've got the 2.7 '08 model. I didn't buy it new, but have it a few years so know it well. On the one hand I'd say it's the best car I've ever had, extremely smooth ride (I clock up a good few miles every week), really comfortable, great gearbox for an automatic and enough power when you need it. Plus I think it's the best looking car on the road unless your willing to fork out for a DB9. That said, it has given quite a few problems, luckily for me most of those happen within the 3 year warrenty, so were fixed for free. The early model is know for issue with the fuel cap sticking and the internal lights coming on/off due to sensor issues. On top of that I had an issue with a door handle, a window sensor and a steering sensor. It seems the more technology you cram in the more there is to go wrong. They are also prone to EGR value issues, which while not as serious as it sounds can be 500+ to fix. Also aslo need to be aware of the road tax which is in teh 1K+ bracket.

I'd recommend checking the service history closely. Hopefully it was serviced by a Jag dealer for the first 3 years, so you should be able to find out what was fixed. If some of the stuff I mentioned was replaced then it's probably good news as it is less likely to go again.

Despite the issues, I'll probably get another in a couple of years time. Though I'd probably let the 2.2 model age a bit and then pick one up as forking out 1K a year on tax does get opainfull!

I think that ties in with Mr David's advice on the first page (not to buy one made in the first 6 months)

So buying the 3.0 D makes sense due to tax and the fact that they only came out in 09...but then you pay the price for that of course.