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  • 29-12-2011 3:49pm
    #1
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    How about an LGBT private forum? Just for the sake of having a social side to the forum as well. There seems to have been a few issues with the chat thread, that has had it closed. It does seem a little unfair to those who behave themselves. So its a simple suggestion that may not take off, but worth putting it out there.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    If it's something people are interested in and would use, then I see no reason not to float it out- I know there are other private forums (I think The Ladies Lounge has one) and while I don't know how they work, I'm sure we can find out.

    Are people interested?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Well I'm not sure if it would be possible, but may offer some regulars and more serious posters some comfort with increased privacy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Sounds good

    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    Sounds good to me.

    I was going to pm one of the mods but seeing as this thread is here, what were the issues with the Off Topic thread? I understand it's hard to monitor because it's the most popular thread on here so it moves quickly, but surely that could be solved with extra mods if there were volunteers, or simply just keeping a closer eye on the thread. I think the mods do a great job as it is

    Alternatively, while it is the off topic thread and is a bit more light hearted and you can chat about anything, maybe introducing some rules would help?

    It's a shame to see the most popular thread in here close; a private forum would be a good idea though


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    The Chat thread did seem like a good excuse for me to drop by and see what was going on from time to time. Granted, some of the bather did seem to get alittle cheesy, but fun none the less. The forum itself seems to have more than enough.

    I was always told, volunteer for nothing, but since I'm on here most of the time browsing for useful material for side projects, I always seem to find myself here quite often.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭jaffacakesyum


    The Chat thread did seem like a good excuse for me to drop by and see what was going on from time to time. Granted, some of the bather did seem to get alittle cheesy, but fun none the less. The forum itself seems to have more than enough.

    I was always told, volunteer for nothing, but since I'm on here most of the time browsing for useful material for side projects, I always seem to find myself here quite often.

    Very much so! :P

    I'm a big flirt/cheesball in real life anyway but even some of the banter in the off topic thread is too cringey for my tastes :pac:

    Although I'm sure that wasn't the reason for it being closed!

    Or if it was part of the problem, maybe some rules like 'no inappropriate comments' 'no flirting' 'no talking about other users' etc. ? I dunno :confused:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    I don't know what the problem was. Maybe we were putting other people off alittle. I mean, new users to the forum. It's to be somewhat inclusive and try to attract some people that might stick around.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭Azure_sky


    Good idea. I'd probably post more often if it took off.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Same here. Somethings I ain't comfortable disclosing in public. So I would post more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,366 ✭✭✭ninty9er


    The Motors guys have a private forum. I can't access it at the moment. There can be similarities in conversations between the public forum and it, which is why I didn't check it all that often after the initial novelty wore off.

    A critical mass is needed. I think that one has about 30 regular users, motors would be one of the biggest sections on the site.

    In theory it's a great idea, but I think the effect on the main forum should be considered.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    What would the purpose be? what sort of things would you want to discuss there?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    Everything and anything. Despite not being able to search this forum, a prospective employer could still read my posts here. One idea behind a private is forum to reduce stealth discrimination. I have taken great steps to avoid anyone browsing through my online activity, but I'd still be a little paranoid.

    It may also reduce trolling and llow people to talk in comfort, despite our small presence. The main forum could be used for general chit chat and non-stickers or those who don't feel the urge to stay and socialise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,153 ✭✭✭Shakti


    Alas I'd say a private forum is the ONLY way you might get trans-folk to feel comfortable discussing their issues on Boards.ie and who could blame them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    How would access be regulated?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    stephen_n wrote: »
    How would access be regulated?

    Let it be known in the charter that there's a private forum and people should request access, but if they troll they should be dropped as quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    Let it be known in the charter that there's a private forum and people should request access, but if they troll they should be dropped as quick.

    Was thinking a minimum post requirement in the general lGBT forum!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    That's an even better idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I'm not overly pushed myself to have a private forum but not dead set against it. Maybe if you think it's a really good idea then flesh out the idea a good bit more -explaining how it would work and then request it on the forums requests forum

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=461

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Freiheit


    You know there has been times when I wished I hadn't posted things,making them available to the world,but maybe I should be out there in the non-virtual world more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Kadent


    I think it would be better to develop it as a social side of the forum if enough people wanted it and leave the main forum for general topical discussion. I don't have to be nice to people that way :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,201 ✭✭✭ongarboy


    If people are concerned about privacy of their posts, can't they post unregistered? Also, someone mentioned concerns about prospective employers viewing their past posts - how could an employer identify someone unless they made their username their actual full name (I've yet to come across someone doing that).

    I think a private members forum creates a sense of elitism and exclusion. While some people are frequent posters here, many are frequent visitors and have never posted but have gained valuable information and assistance from content posted. Such people who may not feel like committing to joining as a private member would lose out on some great/helpful content/advice posted in such restricted forums.

    Finally, (maybe I'm being a little old fashioned here) but I think such a development also further encourages people to live/engage/socialise in an exclusively virtual life at the expense of enjoying/enduring the beauty/challenges of the real world and subsquently start losing out on real life social skills/development. However if such an outlet is what folks want, I'm not going to stand in the way of it but it is just not my cup of tea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    I think both sides of the arguments have merits- the idea of a safer space where people who have proven themselves as trusted, sane, and empathetic posters can get together a bit more privately and socially, mightn't be a bad idea.

    However, from views on threads and how many people actually post, it's clear that lots of general folk come and drop by and read threads, without ever inputting. While sometimes that can feel a bit irksome, I think it shows that the LGBT forum in general is a pretty good resource for LGBT folks, and those who are curious/questioning/freaking out about being gay.

    If we want to create a social side to the forum, without it just being one giant thread that gets unwieldy pretty quickly and can be hard to moderate, perhaps a few sub-forums could be created. I know, I know, there have been major debates on this idea before, but that stemmed from wanting a separate trans board as opposed to organising along the lines of

    1) Support with coming out
    2) Sexuality, gender, culture, and legislation
    3) General chit-chat and socialising

    I know for example the photography forum has a bunch of distinct forums, and it still rumbles long well. Perhaps in this case the general chit chat forum could be made private, and only those who have posted in the other sub forums gain access, under the strict understanding that access will be revoked if they're playing silly buggers.

    The only problem with dividing the forum like this is that is does run the risk of diluting a forum which occasionally can be relatively slow, posts-wise. It could quickly start to be fragmented rather than organised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    I kind of agree with ongarboy here - I think it could be elitist and exclusionary

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Raghallaigh


    I like the suggestion from baby and crumble :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭fluffybiscuits


    I kind of agree with ongarboy here - I think it could be elitist and exclusionary


    The gay rights movement has long been oppressed. Agree with you lets not start oppressing our own. Leave that to the right wing .... ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭Kadent


    I have no particular interest in a private forum other than as an avenue to avert trolling or duplicate accounts but that shouldn't be an issue to mod on the main forum where the tools are available to check ip's. I think the off topic thread probably functions as well as a private forum otherwise would atm, the population here doesn't really require much more.


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