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Disposal of car

  • 27-12-2011 3:24pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭


    A friend of mind is returning from the continent early in the new year and was wondering about his car. Here's the story:

    It's an 02 Renault Scenic out of its NCT since Oct 2010. Apparently, it needs some work done before a prospective NCT which he is presuming might come to the guts of €500 between a new tyre, some body work and general service.

    Anyway, given that the NCT (if successful) would last only a short time anyway since it's backdated (and time when the car is not used is not allowed for) I have suggested to him that it might not be worth spending much money on the car and that he would get a good stop-gap with up-to-date NCT for a couple of thousand. (He does not see his current car as one he intends to hold onto long-term anyway - car is broadly sound but starting to cost money)

    One thing I know nothing about is the best option to dispose of his car. Just wondering if it is tradeable-in? I imagine a garage would get it up and running for an NCT easily enough but would they want the bother of another car on their books in the current environment when it would be saleable for just a few thousand anyway? Especially if the trade-in was for a car of fairly low money anyway - not like they'd be selling him a new car and making good money.

    Assuming this is not a realistic option and given the NCT situation is the car fit only for scrap do you think? Or what is the best option? Any advice appreciated.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭lar203


    Ill buy it off you were are you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    Flog it on Done Deal. One mans junk.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    lar203 wrote: »
    Ill buy it off you were are you


    If you are serious about that PM me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    MugMugs wrote: »
    Flog it on Done Deal. One mans junk.....


    Yeah, that's a possibility. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Spend a few grand on another car to just avoid the NCT, doesn't make sense to me. He should change if he wants to change but changing purely to avoid the NCT is not a logical reason. Even if he traded-in or sold the car the value would be knocked down to compensate for the lack of the NCT. I suggest he gets the NCT then try sell it if he wants.

    The NCT is only valid from the date of testing (is not backdated) but does expire on the next anniversary.

    first reg 10/02
    first NCT due 10/06
    2nd NCT due 10/08
    3rd NCT due 10/10
    4th NCT due 10/12
    5th NCT due 10/13
    So how come it expired in 10/11, was it imported?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Spend a few grand on another car to just avoid the NCT, doesn't make sense to me. He should change if he wants to change but changing purely to avoid the NCT is not a logical reason. Even if he traded-in or sold the car the value would be knocked down to compensate for the lack of the NCT. I suggest he gets the NCT then try sell it if he wants.

    The NCT is only valid from the date of testing (is not backdated) but does expire on the next anniversary.

    first reg 10/02
    first NCT due 10/06
    2nd NCT due 10/08
    3rd NCT due 10/10
    4th NCT due 10/12
    5th NCT due 10/13
    So how come it expired in 10/11, was it imported?


    It's hardly an option being considered "to avoid the NCT". It's a question of measuring up the cost of preparing the car for the NCT when the owner does not want a car that size anymore and would consider moving it on anyway. NCT expired because the owner emigrated. Sorry I should have said the NCT expired in October 2010 - not 2011.

    Just on your point "even if he traded-in or sold the car the value would be knocked down to compensate for the lack of the NCT" - that seems a perfectly rational thing for a buyer to do. But is there any real value in your other suggestion for the seller to "get the NCT (with the cost of preparation) then try sell it if he wants"? That seems to me to be taking a punt on an old car and hoping to recoup money that might never be recouped.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Why bother with NCT preparation when for €50 you will get a printout of exactly what is required to get a fresh test on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Why bother with NCT preparation when for €50 you will get a printout of exactly what is required to get a fresh test on it.

    or as in my case a pleasant surprise of a nice new Cert. DO the definate work needed (such as the tyre) and slap it in for a test.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    corktina wrote: »
    or as in my case a pleasant surprise of a nice new Cert. DO the definate work needed (such as the tyre) and slap it in for a test.

    I wouldn't even bother, reason being if you get a list as long as your arm of fail items then you might not bother fixing the car. Best thing is to do nothing at all and price the repairs based on the report sheet. Then you know exactly where you stand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    Why bother with NCT preparation when for €50 you will get a printout of exactly what is required to get a fresh test on it.


    That doesn't get around the bill for NCT preparation though. It merely defers its payment.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    It will avoid the bill if the bill turns out to be too high. It gives you a preview of the bill before any work gets done.

    It seems to me that the main fear here is dropping the car into a garage for NCT prep "on the blind" so to speak where you don't know how big the final bill will be. This is understandable of course.

    This is why I think the best course of action is spending €50 on the test. This gives you 100% reliable information as to how big the bill will be before you spend any more money.

    Then the owner is in a position to make an informed decision as to what to do with the car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    That doesn't get around the bill for NCT preparation though. It merely defers its payment.

    But the bill might not be as much as you think. And even if it is a few hundred, it will cost more to sell the current car and replace it. Get the NCT done and take it from there, even if it being sold you can show possible buyers the NCTY fail report and push your price up a bit.


  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    That doesn't get around the bill for NCT preparation though. It merely defers its payment.

    Well considering your suggestion that he trades it in or sells it as is, George's idea seems to make sense really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Well considering your suggestion that he trades it in or sells it as is, George's idea seems to make sense really.

    George's idea does make sense alright but to be fair to me my own suggestion was not that there should not be any assessment of what would be required to get the car up to the mark but that "it might not be worth spending much money on the car".

    If after what George suggests is done my thoughts might not be far off the mark. I offered my views to the car's owner on the assumption that there would need to be a fair amount of money (certainly relative the car's value) spent on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Next in line for the option of buyign it for the scrap value please.


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