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Aldo shoes and rip off ireland

  • 26-12-2011 1:05pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭


    Hi all,

    I got a pair of Aldo ankle boots as a christmas present.They cost €95. However they cost £70gbp on their UK website, and I assume this is the same cost in Northern Irish Aldo stores. This works out at an overpricing of €11.35 for purchasing in the Irish Republic. I don't know if this just applies to all Euro currency countries? But it does seem very unfair especially in the context of an horrendous recession. Is there something that can explain this difference in price? Or is it just cynical opportunism?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Moved to Rip Off Ireland as we do not discuss currency differences here.

    dudara


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    I'm in no way justifying the price difference but it's not just a simple currency exchange. There are different laws governing wages and shop rates in the Republic and this could also be a factor. All I'm saying is that a straight forward currency conversion isn't necessarily the fairest comparison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 147 ✭✭braintoxic


    Dont discuss currency differences? Is it fair to ask why..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    The shoes that were bought in Ireland, were they bought in a shop?

    A shop has totally different costs from a website. A website might have a couple of guys in stores in some warehouse in an industrial estate in the back ass of nowhere and can order in stock as it gets sold. If they have a good supply chain they can sell the item to you before they even have it so there's no risk of them getting stuck with it. They won't need display stock for customers to try on, they just need a photo. There is a risk to the customer that they might buy an item that doesn't fit them well or doesn't look as well on them as they might have expected but the website doesn't care about that.

    A shop will have to rent premises probably in a main street or shopping centre, will have to have staff constantly on the floor even when there's no customers in the shop and will have to have the stock on hand for the customer to try on or buy immediately, so if the cost price goes down after the shop has bought the item, that's a cost the shop probably has to bear. If they're bought as a gift a lot of shops will allow the customer to come in and exchange the item for another item. They don't have to and some don't but it's an extra service for the customer if they buy from a shop

    Then theres any differences in VAT & currency to add on.

    So if the cost on the website was the same as the cost in a shop then either the website is making great profits or the shop is making losses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭compsys


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I got a pair of Aldo ankle boots as a christmas present.They cost €95. However they cost £70gbp on their UK website, and I assume this is the same cost in Northern Irish Aldo stores. This works out at an overpricing of €11.35 for purchasing in the Irish Republic. I don't know if this just applies to all Euro currency countries? But it does seem very unfair especially in the context of an horrendous recession. Is there something that can explain this difference in price? Or is it just cynical opportunism?

    To be honest that seems like a fair enough exchange rate.

    Anything over .73 or .74c to the euro is OK in my opinion.

    Sure the official exchange rate on the ForEx markets, which applies to transactions of currencies over around one million euro (!) is only around .83 cent right now.

    Also, the €95 price tag is probably the same euro price that is being used in almost every other European country that uses the euro.

    As I've said previously, I don't know why everyone in Ireland is so obsessed with the price of food and clothes compared to the UK alone.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75808210


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Marzipan85


    well at least i know i'm not being ripped off. just some shops even go to the extent of censoring their GBP prices on clothing tags, which comes across as a bit dodgy to me. this basically keeps information from the customer (which is only going to piss people off), rather than explaining why there is a noticeable price difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Techno_Toaster


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    well at least i know i'm not being ripped off. just some shops even go to the extent of censoring their GBP prices on clothing tags, which comes across as a bit dodgy to me. this basically keeps information from the customer (which is only going to piss people off), rather than explaining why there is a noticeable price difference.

    they probably have it it to avoid situations like this. Also why do sterling prices make a difference to us? Every country is different, vat rates/cost of living/wages they all contribute to the price of things. So while its not a rip off I do agree the prices here are crazy compared to Great Britain but sadly that's the way it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    [QUOTE=Marzipan85;76180252]well at least i know i'm not being ripped off. just some shops even go to the extent of censoring their GBP prices on clothing tags, which comes across as a bit dodgy to me. this basically keeps information from the customer (which is only going to piss people off), rather than explaining why there is a noticeable price difference.[/QUOTE]

    You weren't ripped off. You didn't even buy them, you got them as a present! :rolleyes:And the purchaser wasn't ripped off either - it seems a very reasonable rate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    My instincts tell me that it's a ripoff. Then again, Irish prices were always mad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Skopzz wrote: »
    My instincts tell me that it's a ripoff. Then again, Irish prices were always mad.
    Your instincts as usual are wrong


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Marzipan85


    some contradicting answers here saying that
    1. every country is different, you're not being ripped off
    2. irish prices have always been crazy, mad

    well, i still think the price of consumer goods and services should be reflective of xe exchange rates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    some contradicting answers here saying that
    1. every country is different, you're not being ripped off
    2. irish prices have always been crazy, mad

    well, i still think the price of consumer goods and services should be reflective of xe exchange rates.

    I've also noticed the other companies that attempted to sell had to dump their products to get rid of them. That's how greedy they are here in Ireland.

    But most importantly, I have enjoyed watching my money go further on eBay USA and in the 6 counties as a result of the "greed"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    some contradicting answers here saying that
    1. every country is different, you're not being ripped off
    2. irish prices have always been crazy, mad

    well, i still think the price of consumer goods and services should be reflective of xe exchange rates.

    I've also noticed the other companies that attempted to sell had to dump their products to get rid of them. That's how greedy they are here in Ireland.

    But most importantly, I have enjoyed watching my money go further on eBay USA and in the 6 counties as a result of the "greed"
    Seriously? You are using an online bohemoth like eBay USA as an example of how retailers here are ripping people off. Dear God, this is a new low.


  • Site Banned Posts: 5,904 ✭✭✭parsi


    It's the same old really.

    If we drop the costs to Uk levels then we can get UK prices.

    So drop the dole, drop the children's allowance and bring in a poll tax (circa 2Kby all accounts).

    Oh, and raise petrol/disel to Uk levels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 427 ✭✭scotty_irish


    I bought a 240ml bottle of contact lens solution in a pharmacy in Carlow on Christmas eve. €14.70, normally pay £3 for it. If I wasn't stuck I wouldn't have paid it. Glad I live abroad where this level of constant rip off doesn't exist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    parsi wrote: »
    It's the same old really.

    If we drop the costs to Uk levels then we can get UK prices.

    So drop the dole, drop the children's allowance and bring in a poll tax (circa 2Kby all accounts).

    Oh, and raise petrol/disel to Uk levels.

    Don't forget, college fees increase to 9k sterling per year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭Techno_Toaster


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    some contradicting answers here saying that
    1. every country is different, you're not being ripped off
    2. irish prices have always been crazy, mad

    well, i still think the price of consumer goods and services should be reflective of xe exchange rates.

    its not contradicting. Cost of living in Ireland has gone up compared to say 4-5 years ago when jobs were plentiful and people had loads of money. The prices now for clothing and footwear are crazy high BUT compared to GB our dole/wages are higher so you cannot compare our prices to there's when they have different bills to pay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,229 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    A lot of it can be blamed on the rip-off rents paid to the Irish mall-owners. The traders in those places have to shift quite a lot of stock just to pay those people, let alone wages, overheads etc etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 360 ✭✭djrichard


    I left the UK in 2007 and went to live in the Canary Islands until April this year when I moved to Dublin to live. I was shocked at how much everyday items cost here and wondered how it could be justified. I decided to go up to the North to do some shopping one time, even ended up driving to some place called Newcastle to visit the ASDA there as its usually always the cheapest supermarket. Boy did I get a shock, it wasnt all that much cheaper at all, especially when you considered the exchange rate. What I hadnt taken into account was the huge rise in prices in the UK in the last 4 years. Certain things were much cheaper though, for example a packet of 28 paracetamol only cost 14p in ASDA! I tried to buy a few packets, but they only let me buy two due to the risk I might be ending it all!

    For years in the UK everyone has been screaming about rip off Britain, so its just the same. The only thing I find that is way in excess in comparison to the UK is the price of alcohol and the price of rental properties. Mobile rates are also a considerable amount more expensive too.

    You can quite easily do a lot of your shopping online, Amazon even has free postage to Ireland now for its own products. Take advantage of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    It's easy to point the finger of blame, the fact is we are all in this together. We all want to be paid as much as possible or to recieve as much benefits as possible but at the same time we want to pay low prices. There is a lot at the moment about water charges, household charges and increases to college tuition but these are things which have been in place in the UK for years. As consumers we are in a privileged position, we are paid more than in the North but can shop there at lower prices though I think the gap in prices is narrowing.

    If you want lower prices, ask yourself are you willing to take further wage/benefit cuts and increases in fuel/water/household rates/college fees etc to come in to line with the residents of Northern Ireland. And if you look further afield, what is the average monthly wage in the Canary Islands or Hungary or Bulgaria?. Would you survive on a wage of €400 per month if consumer items were reduced to their levels in these countries?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭The Master.


    It is worth going up the north for food drink furniture clothes etc. as i think there is a lot more choice up there. Shopping gets very boring around ireland with shopping centres invariably having the same few names. The north has a lot of small independent shops that i love going into and of course the large supermarkets where the choice of fresh foods is amazing.
    I had to laugh while in a dublin furniture shop enquiring about a bed i was told as a selling point it was guaranteed irish made. When it comes to furniture and things that you might like to keep for a few years id prefer it to be made away somewhere else thanks! Lets just stick to making guiness and cheese and eh......stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    It is worth going up the north for food drink furniture clothes etc. as i think there is a lot more choice up there. Shopping gets very boring around ireland with shopping centres invariably having the same few names. The north has a lot of small independent shops that i love going into and of course the large supermarkets where the choice of fresh foods is amazing.
    I had to laugh while in a dublin furniture shop enquiring about a bed i was told as a selling point it was guaranteed irish made. When it comes to furniture and things that you might like to keep for a few years id prefer it to be made away somewhere else thanks! Lets just stick to making guiness and cheese and eh......stuff.

    You are 100% correct.

    Irish retailers lack innovation and always follow their competitors like sheep.

    I recommend not shopping local because it is a false economy and fails to address the issue of competitivness. If people start shopping en masse again, retailers will only increase prices and continue the failed policies as before.

    As a consumer I should not care where something is made so long as it's cheap. Otherwise, it hinders free trade in an open market such as the EU.

    For too long, we have been paying considerably more than our EU counterparts for basic goods.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    well, i still think the price of consumer goods and services should be reflective of xe exchange rates.

    so which bank/credit card is offering you sterling at the xe.com rate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,229 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    well, i still think the price of consumer goods and services should be reflective of xe exchange rates.

    In each Eurozone country, the currency is the same, yet all of the prices are different from one country to the next for the same goods.

    If the UK had joined the Euro, the prices would still be different between here and there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Skopzz wrote: »
    You are 100% correct.

    Irish retailers lack innovation and always follow their competitors like sheep.

    All your posts on this topic lack any argument except for your blinkered views on retailers so for you to talk of innovation is laughable.
    I recommend not shopping local because it is a false economy and fails to address the issue of competitivness. If people start shopping en masse again, retailers will only increase prices and continue the failed policies as before.

    Your recommendations have usually been as far out as the lighthouse so most posters that recognise your username will take your "recommendations" with a pinch of salt. Or just snigger.
    As a consumer I should not care where something is made so long as it's cheap. Otherwise, it hinders free trade in an open market such as the EU.

    So you would have no qualms purchasing something produced in a sweat shop once it's cheap enough for you?
    For too long, we have been paying considerably more than our EU counterparts for basic goods.

    For the past 20 odd years (and probably longer) we have had a far higher standard of living than a lot of our European counterparts, far higher social welfare, lower taxation and no rates/social charges, and free education for the most part. You have taken full advantage of all of these yet you come onto an anonymous internet forum and mouth off about what you consider to be "greedy retailers". Most posters on this board see it as "greedy Scopzz" - taking, taking, taking from the Irish economy and contributing sweet FA.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    Skopzz wrote: »
    You are 100% correct.

    Irish retailers lack innovation and always follow their competitors like sheep.

    I recommend not shopping local because it is a false economy and fails to address the issue of competitivness. If people start shopping en masse again, retailers will only increase prices and continue the failed policies as before.

    As a consumer I should not care where something is made so long as it's cheap. Otherwise, it hinders free trade in an open market such as the EU.

    For too long, we have been paying considerably more than our EU counterparts for basic goods.


    Skoppzz with his unfounded BS again.

    I have one big advantage - I lived in the UK and paid circa £2300 council tax, I also paid higher personal tax, it also took longer to get anywhere and the crowded towns and cities are in the main a pain in the ass to go shopping in. I also saw the death of the local store so that even for a opint of milk, you had to drive 5-10 miles in many instances.

    Another advantage. I'm originally from NI. Very north east tip. Family still there, friends still there. They get paid sh1te money, they don't have anywhere near the quality of life we have down here. They STILL pay more tax than we do and god help you if you lose your job and need social welfare - its pittance.

    We are DAMN lucky in Ireland, even in recession, most people can survive and have a few luxuries. Try that anywhere else in the worl.

    Finally - the market has turned. We've had a brilliant christmas. Took on 12 new staff this year. Moved stronger in to the UK market (yep - I BEAT Uk prices!) planning more expansion this year too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    maxer68 wrote: »
    Skoppzz with his unfounded BS again.

    I have one big advantage - I lived in the UK and paid circa £2300 council tax, I also paid higher personal tax, it also took longer to get anywhere and the crowded towns and cities are in the main a pain in the ass to go shopping in. I also saw the death of the local store so that even for a opint of milk, you had to drive 5-10 miles in many instances.

    Another advantage. I'm originally from NI. Very north east tip. Family still there, friends still there. They get paid sh1te money, they don't have anywhere near the quality of life we have down here. They STILL pay more tax than we do and god help you if you lose your job and need social welfare - its pittance.

    We are DAMN lucky in Ireland, even in recession, most people can survive and have a few luxuries. Try that anywhere else in the worl.

    Finally - the market has turned. We've had a brilliant christmas. Took on 12 new staff this year. Moved stronger in to the UK market (yep - I BEAT Uk prices!) planning more expansion this year too.


    You just made my point perfectly. They wouldn't remain footfall-less if they were competitive. Consider what we get now, 30 second answers to complex questions that are turned into sound bits by borderlinemeath....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    Skopzz wrote: »
    You just made my point perfectly. They wouldn't remain footfall-less if they were competitive. Consider what we get now, 30 second answers to complex questions that are turned into sound bits by borderlinemeath....

    Do you even know that there is a population difference between the 2 countries????

    Your answer suggests you do not.

    Population density of Ireland = 65 per sq km
    Population density of UK = 255 per sq km

    That's over 4 times the number of people per sq km!! - That leads to overcrowding in many areas, huge traffic problems, but also economies of scale which in SOME instance can lead to lower prices. But give me less crowded Ireland ANY day over the UK!


    Advice Skopzz - Give up commentating on anything to do with economics until you start getting some basic understanding of what you are talking about. And this is not an attact on you yourself, but on your posts. Nothing, absolutle nothing you have ever posted on pricing / economics / currency has EVER had even a small element of fact in it and readers of your posts need to know that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    maxer68 wrote: »
    Do you even know that there is a population difference between the 2 countries????

    Your answer suggests you do not.

    Population density of Ireland = 65 per sq km
    Population density of UK = 255 per sq km

    That's over 4 times the number of people per sq km!! - That leads to overcrowding in many areas, huge traffic problems, but also economies of scale which in SOME instance can lead to lower prices. But give me less crowded Ireland ANY day over the UK!


    Advice Skopzz - Give up commentating on anything to do with economics until you start getting some basic understanding of what you are talking about. And this is not an attact on you yourself, but on your posts. Nothing, absolutle nothing you have ever posted on pricing / economics / currency has EVER had even a small element of fact in it and readers of your posts need to know that.


    That's no excuse for higher prices... We are in a different currency too.

    Oh, and you want to know why they have the worst chance to succeed? Because of you.

    But Ireland is a house of cards. Consumers deserve better. They will shop wherever it's cheaper.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    Skopzz wrote: »
    That's no excuse for higher prices... We are in a different currency too.

    Oh, and you want to know why they have the worst chance to succeed? Because of you.

    But Ireland is a house of cards. Consumers deserve better. They will shop wherever it's cheaper.

    I'm not saying its an excuse for higher prices. As I have said time and time and time again. I cannot see any discernible price difference between north & south of Ireland, between Ireland and UK, between Ireand and continemtal europe when you take an OVERALL picture.

    Of course there's odd products, of course there's different types & styles of shops that have different costs. But when you look at your overall spend on the SAME products and the smae quality, there is no discernible difference. That why there was feck all southern Irish shopping in NI this year - Newry chamber of commerce said taht except for their natural catchment area within the republic, there was no benefit from southern Ireland shoppers this year.

    Facts always speak louder than your BS posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Skopzz wrote: »


    That's no excuse for higher prices... We are in a different currency too.

    Oh, and you want to know why they have the worst chance to succeed? Because of you.

    But Ireland is a house of cards. Consumers deserve better. They will shop wherever it's cheaper.

    This post depresses me, not because of anything to do with prices, but because my taxes are being used to educate this calibre of third level student.

    I should know better at this stage because as maxer posted, you have never once been right, I suspect (and in a way hope) that you are sitting at your computer laughing at taking the mick out of the readers on this forum, I hope these are not your real opinions or else I dispair for your lecturers.

    In case you are serious, I will point out a few things about your post.

    1. There is an excuse for higher prices as has been pointed out to you God knows how many times. Vat/wages/rents/rates/smaller market/less competition etc, etc, etc.

    2. We are indeed a different currency, the exchange rate was .97sterling to 1€ at one time, now it is .82sterling to €1. This means UK goods are poorer value relative to us here or our goods are better value relative to there. You claim to be a currency expert so the importance of this should not be lost on you.

    3 . Not sure what your next paragraph means, it is gobbledygook.

    4. "Ireland is a house of cards", perhaps you could give us an educated explanation of the meaning of this statement and it's context relative to the price of Aldo shoes now that you have again hijacked a thread and led it off on a tangent with daft posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    maxer68 wrote: »
    I'm not saying its an excuse for higher prices. As I have said time and time and time again. I cannot see any discernible price difference between north & south of Ireland, between Ireland and UK, between Ireand and continemtal europe when you take an OVERALL picture.

    Of course there's odd products, of course there's different types & styles of shops that have different costs. But when you look at your overall spend on the SAME products and the smae quality, there is no discernible difference. That why there was feck all southern Irish shopping in NI this year - Newry chamber of commerce said taht except for their natural catchment area within the republic, there was no benefit from southern Ireland shoppers this year.

    Facts always speak louder than your BS posts.

    But theres no such thing as "southern Ireland" - only british people say that.

    Besides they have a lot to lose economically by not attracting Irish shoppers to their stores here in Ireland.

    If it is better and cheaper than what I can get in the 26 counties I will buy it.

    Once the rip-off retailers are out and a stable, pro-business climate is established, and Gormley's anti-business laws are unwound companies will return to investing in capital equipment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭compsys


    parsi wrote: »
    It's the same old really.

    If we drop the costs to Uk levels then we can get UK prices.

    So drop the dole, drop the children's allowance and bring in a poll tax (circa 2Kby all accounts).

    Oh, and raise petrol/disel to Uk levels.

    And don't forget the Old Age Pension. It's €230 a week here and only £105 (€126!) in the UK.

    Prices here are more expensive in Ireland as people earn more here - whether that be through actual work or sitting on their asses and getting it from the Government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭SAHMOM


    To be fair to retailers re: the exchange rate and marking out £ prices.....Retailers have to pay the exchange rate ontop of the vat which is higher to the UK and the cost of shipping so even though that price was above the exchange rate, I think the buyer got a pretty good deal. The £ price is marked out in most english retailers trading in Ireland because of the same misconception you had.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    Skopzz wrote: »
    But theres no such thing as "southern Ireland" - only british people say that.

    Besides they have a lot to lose economically by not attracting Irish shoppers to their stores here in Ireland.

    If it is better and cheaper than what I can get in the 26 counties I will buy it.

    Once the rip-off retailers are out and a stable, pro-business climate is established, and Gormley's anti-business laws are unwound companies will return to investing in capital equipment.

    1. Southern Ireland is a well used phrase when comparing Northern Ireland the the well eh Southern part. 26 counties is by far a worse and less explained phrase.

    2. Prices in NI are the same as prices in UK - I don't think tesco in essex gives a damn about any tesco store in Ireland.

    3. What on earth has Gormley ever had to do with business? IMO, Ireland is one of the easiest places to set up a business. Very little red tape, huge number of places giving help, very easy to rake on staff and let them go if not up to the mark. Ireland is as pro-businessa s you can get. That's fromt eh horse's mouth!

    Your mutterings are really going into la la land at this stage.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    maxer68 wrote: »
    1. Southern Ireland is a well used phrase when comparing Northern Ireland the the well eh Southern part. 26 counties is by far a worse and less explained phrase.

    2. Prices in NI are the same as prices in UK - I don't think tesco in essex gives a damn about any tesco store in Ireland.

    3. What on earth has Gormley ever had to do with business? IMO, Ireland is one of the easiest places to set up a business. Very little red tape, huge number of places giving help, very easy to rake on staff and let them go if not up to the mark. Ireland is as pro-businessa s you can get. That's fromt eh horse's mouth!

    Your mutterings are really going into la la land at this stage.


    Unfortunately you don't understand the correct pharses of Ireland (as might be expected from a British person).

    The 26 counties is a well-used phrase here when referring to the Republic while the 6 counties is used to describe the north of Ireland. The 6 counties has people and supporters standing in line to hand us their money for practically free. Look at the population change over the last 40 years. Now compare that to the once dominant anti-Irish crowd that is now becoming the minority

    What is emerging is a story that is going to end badly for the UK. You have been run out of other people's land before. It's called annexation and it doesn't work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Skopzz wrote: »


    Unfortunately you don't understand the correct pharses of Ireland (as might be expected from a British person).

    The 26 counties is a well-used phrase here when referring to the Republic while the 6 counties is used to describe the north of Ireland. The 6 counties has people and supporters standing in line to hand us their money for practically free. Look at the population change over the last 40 years. Now compare that to the once dominant anti-Irish crowd that is now becoming the minority

    What is emerging is a story that is going to end badly for the UK. You have been run out of other people's land before. It's called annexation and it doesn't work.

    Dudara you have got to do something about this sectarian simpleton.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,346 ✭✭✭borderlinemeath


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Unfortunately you don't understand the correct pharses of Ireland (as might be expected from a British person).

    The 26 counties is a well-used phrase here when referring to the Republic while the 6 counties is used to describe the north of Ireland. The 6 counties has people and supporters standing in line to hand us their money for practically free. Look at the population change over the last 40 years. Now compare that to the once dominant anti-Irish crowd that is now becoming the minority

    What is emerging is a story that is going to end badly for the UK. You have been run out of other people's land before. It's called annexation and it doesn't work.

    This (as usual) has nothing to do with rip off Ireland/retail/consumers whatsoever. All it does is show the very warped perspective you seem to have for your home country.

    As an aside, I as an Irish person have never used the 26/6 county phrase you claim is so well used. It's always been Northern/Southern Ireland to me, and many others, including my partner who grew up 3 miles from the border. You wouldn't last a minute in the place if you expressed yourself as you do in your posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    Skopzz wrote: »
    Unfortunately you don't understand the correct pharses of Ireland (as might be expected from a British person).

    .


    I can assure you I am 100% Irish, my father is 100% Irish, my grandparents were 100% Irish.

    I notice in other threads your pedantic nature in describing areas. Get over it - life is far too short for that type of crap from anyone.

    My guess is yopu'r still young - still don't understand how the world works and still angry at something or someone in the past. Move on and try to smile a little. Life CAN be fun!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭SAHMOM


    WOW!!! well that has gone off tandem from the orginal post!!! :rolleyes:
    Just to put my spoke in...I'm 100% Irish and would refer to Southern and Northern Ireland. Think most people do.....quicker than saying "the 6 counties" Can also tell you I have family in Donegal and they would say Northern Ireland :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    This (as usual) has nothing to do with rip off Ireland/retail/consumers whatsoever. All it does is show the very warped perspective you seem to have for your home country.

    As an aside, I as an Irish person have never used the 26/6 county phrase you claim is so well used. It's always been Northern/Southern Ireland to me, and many others, including my partner who grew up 3 miles from the border. You wouldn't last a minute in the place if you expressed yourself as you do in your posts.

    Well that would be worth seeing!! I doubt if you have the ability to beat an egg let alone your 'partner'.

    You haven't a clue what your talking about. Hardly a regularly used phrase in Ireland. Just a partitionist word. Big words when you're sitting in front of a computer. As I said before a cowardly poster trying to incite bigotry. A bit like you really, hiding behind your user name. Try sitting beside me and say that. Wait, you're too busy bragging about your miserable life.

    BTW I love the shops in the 6 counties that read FAILTE on the entrances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    SAHMOM wrote: »
    I'm 100% Irish and would refer to Southern and Northern Ireland. Think most people do.....

    But they don't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    davo10 wrote: »
    Dudara you have got to do something about this sectarian simpleton.

    I've reported you for trying to insult me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭SAHMOM


    well I can't account for whom you talk too...but people I know do, Southern Ireland and Northern :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭SAHMOM


    This (as usual) has nothing to do with rip off Ireland/retail/consumers whatsoever. All it does is show the very warped perspective you seem to have for your home country.

    As an aside, I as an Irish person have never used the 26/6 county phrase you claim is so well used. It's always been Northern/Southern Ireland to me, and many others, including my partner who grew up 3 miles from the border. You wouldn't last a minute in the place if you expressed yourself as you do in your posts.
    I'm new to this forum, but it's obvious from other posters that you have a chip on your back about Irish Retail in general......Don't think your input is relative to the thread


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    SAHMOM wrote: »
    well I can't account for whom you talk too...but people I know do, Southern Ireland and Northern :rolleyes:

    But that makes no sense... It would be like calling some streets like O'Connell Street 'Sackville Street' - it doesn't exist.

    Same issue with "southern ireland" - no such country.

    Nobody has a clue what you are talking about.

    I accept your apology in advance.

    Happy Festivus!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,926 ✭✭✭davo10


    Skopzz wrote: »
    davo10 wrote: »
    Dudara you have got to do something about this sectarian simpleton.

    I've reported you for trying to insult me.


    Trying to insult you?, I just got a PM from a simpleton saying I have insulted him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 SmartHass


    The population of Ireland in total is about the same size as manchester, you simply can not compare prices between a population of 70 million and a pop of 3/4 million, its silly! bulk selling/buying usually dictates price, there are many other contributing factors as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    davo10 wrote: »
    Trying to insult you?, I just got a PM from a simpleton saying I have insulted him.

    You made this comment to my previous post. Ditto. Reported again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Skopzz


    SmartHass wrote: »
    The population of Ireland in total is about the same size as manchester, you simply can not compare prices between a population of 70 million and a pop of 3/4 million, its silly! bulk selling/buying usually dictates price, there are many other contributing factors as well.

    We had this conversation yesterday but it doesn't add-up. For example, smaller Eurozone countries like Cyprus, Slovakia still have lower prices than Ireland. Consumers deserve better and they will shop wherever it's cheaper without any guilt. That is the situation in Ireland at present. Really, the prices remain high because retailers are greedy. That's it in a nutshell.


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