Company Golf Leagues

G S R

Hi,

There was a few of us here in work wondering if such competitions/ societies exist in Ireland? Kind of like factory leagues in soccer.

Would anyone have any information on where I'd look to find out if any exist. It would be in the South East preferably but would like to know if any exist in Dublin too.

Regards,

GSR

Luckycharm

The Astro Sports Leagues [URL=]www.astro.ie[/URL] are thinking of running one from this Spring or something similar.
If you have any ideas or suggestions they would be more then welcome.

Redzah

Luckycharm wrote: »

The Astro Sports Leagues www.astro.ie are thinking of running one from this Spring or something similar.
If you have any ideas or suggestions they would be more then welcome.

Sounds like a great idea. My idea would be something like;

Team of 5 to play weekly for X amount of weeks in a league format;

Each match consists of;
1 Fourball
1 Foursomes
1 singles

Each match finishes all 18 holes with aggregate of 3 matches taken to determine overall winner of match.

Obviously the finer points can be worked out if given the green light.

Best of luck with it.

Luckycharm

Redzah wrote: »

Sounds like a great idea. My idea would be something like;

Team of 5 to play weekly for X amount of weeks in a league format;

Each match consists of;
1 Fourball
1 Foursomes
1 singles

Each match finishes all 18 holes with aggregate of 3 matches taken to determine overall winner of match.

Obviously the finer points can be worked out if given the green light.

Best of luck with it.

Good suggestion what about regarding Handicaps would they have to have a GUI handicap or would a Society handicap do?

mikeunt

Luckycharm wrote: »

Good suggestion what about regarding Handicaps would they have to have a GUI handicap or would a Society handicap do?

They would have to be GUI handicaps for such a competition
No point running it otherwise as society handicaps have no standing in real golf

Redzah

Luckycharm wrote: »

Good suggestion what about regarding Handicaps would they have to have a GUI handicap or would a Society handicap do?

I suppose while competitive, there will be a large social element to this as well so if the person does not hold a GUI handicap then a Society handicap should suffice with a max of say 18 or 21 at a stretch.

I think limiting it to GUI will reduce the amount of teams that enter (and your revenue).

If you get the numbers then you could split the leagues into different categories based on total handicap;

eg.
CAT 1 combined of 5 handicaps less than 60 (average of 12)
CAT 2 combined of 5 handicaps greater than 60

This will ensure golfers are playing a competitive match at a more apt standard and will also limit the chances of a lower handicapper giving away 15 shots to a guy with a dodgy society handicap

Luckycharm

Redzah wrote: »

I suppose while competitive, there will be a large social element to this as well so if the person does not hold a GUI handicap then a Society handicap should suffice with a max of say 18 or 21 at a stretch.

I think limiting it to GUI will reduce the amount of teams that enter (and your revenue).

If you get the numbers then you could split the leagues into different categories based on total handicap;

eg.
CAT 1 combined of 5 handicaps less than 60 (average of 12)
CAT 2 combined of 5 handicaps greater than 60

This will ensure golfers are playing a competitive match at a more apt standard and will also limit the chances of a lower handicapper giving away 15 shots to a guy with a dodgy society handicap

Agreed alot of people who could be interested might not be members of courses but could be keen society golfers.
Another idea could be some kind of Golf league table for individuals and maybe you could have different classes for the diff range of Handicaps. What do you think of that?

death1234567

Luckycharm wrote: »

Another idea could be some kind of Golf league table for individuals and maybe you could have different classes for the diff range of Handicaps. What do you think of that?

Good idea. If you had a mini league for individuals where they could play each other in match play or something it would be great. 2 points for a win and 1 for a half, 5 guys of similar handicaps in each league.

Redzah

Luckycharm wrote: »

Agreed alot of people who could be interested might not be members of courses but could be keen society golfers.
Another idea could be some kind of Golf league table for individuals and maybe you could have different classes for the diff range of Handicaps. What do you think of that?

Could work but will this be an individual league or a team league? The way i think it will work best is a team league whereby it costs X amount per team and if individuals cannot form a team Astro.ie could have a register of those short players so that individuals looking for teams can join up.

Society handicaps should be allowed it needs to be open to all for it to be commercially viable.

Luckycharm

Redzah wrote: »

Could work but will this be an individual league or a team league? The way i think it will work best is a team league whereby it costs X amount per team and if individuals cannot form a team Astro.ie could have a register of those short players so that individuals looking for teams can join up.

Society handicaps should be allowed it needs to be open to all for it to be commercially viable.

Looking at options at the moment going from experience of diff team events it can often be hard to get 5/6 people out to play an hours soccer/rugby never mind 4/5 hours golfing at the same time. All sounds good on paper but in practise it is very different.
You could do one for individuals for example if you were a member of a course it would be great way to play other courses much cheaper then say rocking up to pay the normal green fee plus you would have the competitive fun element to it as well.

Kid Charlemagne

Luckycharm wrote: »

Looking at options at the moment going from experience of diff team events it can often be hard to get 5/6 people out to play an hours soccer/rugby never mind 4/5 hours golfing at the same time.

I agree - thats exactly the problem - the people who have the time and inclination to play every week for a protracted period are often members of a club already for these very reasons.
Also - how much more are they willing to pay? - ie will they want to pay tournament fees plus 4 or 5 more greenfees over successive weeks?

Speaking personally I would feel a bit of a mug paying my subs n then paying g/fees elsewhere for a month.

The more casual golfer is unlikely to want the commitment a comp like this entails.

Finally - as some chaps have stated - for it to be viable you need to allow golf soc h/caps, but as soon as you do that the comp becomes meaningless.

The irish golfer is very well catered for at the moment, it would be a tough proposition to make a return on something like this i think.

Redzah

Kid Charlemagne wrote: »

I agree - thats exactly the problem - the people who have the time and inclination to play every week for a protracted period are often members of a club already for these very reasons.
Also - how much more are they willing to pay? - ie will they want to pay tournament fees plus 4 or 5 more greenfees over successive weeks?

Speaking personally I would feel a bit of a mug paying my subs n then paying g/fees elsewhere for a month.

The more casual golfer is unlikely to want the commitment a comp like this entails.

Finally - as some chaps have stated - for it to be viable you need to allow golf soc h/caps, but as soon as you do that the comp becomes meaningless.

The irish golfer is very well catered for at the moment, it would be a tough proposition to make a return on something like this i think.

Why does the comp become meaningless if a society handicap is let in? Yes the GUI regulate handicaps stringently but it doesn't mean that the competition is meaningless once society handicaps are let in.

Agree with both of you on the 4/5 hours thing and the extra cost of club membership thing, makes me think this would be aimed almost exclusively at society and distance members.

Luckycharm

Kid Charlemagne wrote: »

I agree - thats exactly the problem - the people who have the time and inclination to play every week for a protracted period are often members of a club already for these very reasons.
Also - how much more are they willing to pay? - ie will they want to pay tournament fees plus 4 or 5 more greenfees over successive weeks?

Speaking personally I would feel a bit of a mug paying my subs n then paying g/fees elsewhere for a month.

The more casual golfer is unlikely to want the commitment a comp like this entails.

Finally - as some chaps have stated - for it to be viable you need to allow golf soc h/caps, but as soon as you do that the comp becomes meaningless.

The irish golfer is very well catered for at the moment, it would be a tough proposition to make a return on something like this i think.

Agreed some very good points. I am member of a golf club and pay hefty subs but find that there a load of clubs nearby that I have never played and would love to play but don't get a chance to. Anyway all a long way off