Focalóir Gaoidhilge-Sax-Bhéarla -- 1768

dubhthach

While reading a PDF regarding Protestants and the Irish language (missionary efforts etc.) I came across the title of a dictionary I had never heard of. Quick look in Google Books produced the following:

http://books.google.ie/books?id=C30CAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&dq=Focal%C3%B3ir+gaoidhilge-sax-bh%C3%A9arla,+or+An+Irish-English+dictionary&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HIPwTsm7BpKxhAfVrbSoAQ&ved=0CD4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

Published in 1768 in Paris!

Insect Overlord

Great find!

franc 91

Yes and if you ask them you can visit the Old Library that's over the chapel where it is.
Le Centre Culturel Irlandais 5 rue des Irlandais 75005 Paris
http://www.centreculturelirlandais.com - Old Library
http://www.focloir.ie/lexi/

dubhthach

Old thread, but I was looking in Google books there, specifically researching abit about the old dative plural (-aibh). Found the following from 1845:

A Grammar of the Irish Language: Published for the Use of the Senior Classes in the College of St. Columba
John O'Donovan

http://books.google.ie/books?id=Ji0EAAAAQAAJ&dq=dative%20plural%20irish&pg=PR3#v=onepage&q&f=false

Obviously St. Columba's college still exists in south Dublin. John O'Donovan of course was a noted antiquarian/scholar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O'Donovan_(scholar)

gaiscioch

dubhthach wrote: »

Old thread, but I was looking in Google books there, specifically researching abit about the old dative plural (-aibh). Found the following from 1845:

A Grammar of the Irish Language: Published for the Use of the Senior Classes in the College of St. Columba
John O'Donovan

http://books.google.ie/books?id=Ji0EAAAAQAAJ&dq=dative%20plural%20irish&pg=PR3#v=onepage&q&f=false

Obviously St. Columba's college still exists in south Dublin. John O'Donovan of course was a noted antiquarian/scholar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O'Donovan_(scholar)

Interestingly Garry Bannister is doing exceptional work as a teacher in St Columba's today, and is the author of many books in Irish. I think Columba's was in Stackallan House (Martin Naughton's home now) in Meath before it moved to Dublin in the late 1840s.

dubhthach

gaiscioch wrote: »

Interestingly Garry Bannister is doing exceptional work as a teacher in St Columba's today, and is the author of many books in Irish. I think Columba's was in Stackallan House (Martin Naughton's home now) in Meath before it moved to Dublin in the late 1840s.

Some of interesting bits in that book is where John O'Donovan is "bitching" about features of dialects that are now gone (eg. incorrect forms specific to dialect etc.) it's an interesting read, as it predates the famine. For example he mentions that "cha" was the standard in Ulster (like in Scotland) other then southwest Donegal where you had "níl". I've heard some people say that the use of "cha" in Donegal was an innovation due to influence from Gaidhlig, if it was that widespread that wouldn't seem to be the case.