Ireland & UK crackdown on illegals.

Belly_Dancer

And about time too!:D

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1220/border.html

Ireland and the UK are signing an agreement today designed to crack down on the number of illegal immigrants crossing over their borders.
The deal will be signed in Dublin by Government representatives of both countries.
This initiative aims to put in place standard entry requirements and enhanced electronic border systems; tightening up on the issuing of visas, and greater exchange of information such as fingerprint biometrics and biographical details.
It is billed as a reinforcement of the commitment by both governments to preserving the Common Travel Area - which came into being in the 1920s to allow for the free movement for nationals of both countries.

TheZohanS

Dear Sir, Madame, would you be as kind as to quote the article please.

Thanks in advance.

WindSock

Illegals what?


imma gonna go with immigants or bears. Prolly immigants though.

AnonoBoy

Illegal eagles?

plasteritup

ITS FAR FAR FAR TO ****ING LATE FOR THAT,DAMAGE IS DONE.

Belly_Dancer

Ireland and the UK are signing an agreement today designed to crack down on the number of illegal immigrants crossing over their borders.
The deal will be signed in Dublin by Government representatives of both countries.
This initiative aims to put in place standard entry requirements and enhanced electronic border systems; tightening up on the issuing of visas, and greater exchange of information such as fingerprint biometrics and biographical details.
It is billed as a reinforcement of the commitment by both governments to preserving the Common Travel Area - which came into being in the 1920s to allow for the free movement for nationals of both countries.
In a statement the governments say that the deal aims to prevent abuses of the Common Travel Area arrangement while protecting its benefits to trade and tourism, and will target what are termed ''high-risk'' countries for bogus asylum claims.
It adds that the move could create considerable savings by removing foreign nationals who have no right to stay.
Co-operation in recent months involved checking data provided in 1,700 Irish visa applications, and identified over 200 people applying to come to the Republic who have previously been refused entry to the UK.
The Joint Statement and an accompanying Memorandum of Understanding on visa data exchange will be signed by Minister for Justice Alan Shatter today.
Minister Shatter says it provides a platform for greater cooperation on immigration matters, and opens the way to delivering economic and tourism benefits.

prinz

Ireland and the UK are signing an agreement today designed to crack down on the number of illegal immigrants crossing over their borders.
The deal will be signed in Dublin by Government representatives of both countries.
This initiative aims to put in place standard entry requirements and enhanced electronic border systems; tightening up on the issuing of visas, and greater exchange of information such as fingerprint biometrics and biographical details.
It is billed as a reinforcement of the commitment by both governments to preserving the Common Travel Area - which came into being in the 1920s to allow for the free movement for nationals of both countries.
In a statement the governments say that the deal aims to prevent abuses of the Common Travel Area arrangement while protecting its benefits to trade and tourism, and will target what are termed ''high-risk'' countries for bogus asylum claims.
It adds that the move could create considerable savings by removing foreign nationals who have no right to stay.
Co-operation in recent months involved checking data provided in 1,700 Irish visa applications, and identified over 200 people applying to come to the Republic who have previously been refused entry to the UK.
The Joint Statement and an accompanying Memorandum of Understanding on visa data exchange will be signed by Minister for Justice Alan Shatter today.
Minister Shatter says it provides a platform for greater cooperation on immigration matters, and opens the way to delivering economic and tourism benefits.

Sounds like a plan.

Morlar

TheZohan wrote: »

Dear Sir, Madame, would you be as kind as to quote the article please.

Thanks in advance.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1220/border.html

Ireland and the UK are signing an agreement today designed to crack down on the number of illegal immigrants crossing over their borders.

The deal will be signed in Dublin by Government representatives of both countries.

This initiative aims to put in place standard entry requirements and enhanced electronic border systems; tightening up on the issuing of visas, and greater exchange of information such as fingerprint biometrics and biographical details.

It is billed as a reinforcement of the commitment by both governments to preserving the Common Travel Area - which came into being in the 1920s to allow for the free movement for nationals of both countries.

In a statement the governments say that the deal aims to prevent abuses of the Common Travel Area arrangement while protecting its benefits to trade and tourism, and will target what are termed ''high-risk'' countries for bogus asylum claims.

It adds that the move could create considerable savings by removing foreign nationals who have no right to stay.

Co-operation in recent months involved checking data provided in 1,700 Irish visa applications, and identified over 200 people applying to come to the Republic who have previously been refused entry to the UK.

The Joint Statement and an accompanying Memorandum of Understanding on visa data exchange will be signed by Minister for Justice Alan Shatter today.

Minister Shatter says it provides a platform for greater cooperation on immigration matters, and opens the way to delivering economic and tourism benefits.

It's odd the way RTE put 'High Risk' countries into quotation marks, almost as if they dispute the fact that some countries are high risk in terms of illegal immigration. The comparison between how rte handle this & the 'migrants hold candle lit march' rte article coverage is stark.

Nodin

plasteritup wrote: »

ITS FAR FAR FAR TO ****ING LATE FOR THAT,DAMAGE IS DONE.

Yeah, there's no fixing your caps lock now.

Ghandee

Ill-Eagle?

plasteritup

Nodin wrote: »

Yeah, there's no fixing your caps lock now.

soooooooooooo funnnnnnnyyyyYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

Belly_Dancer

best bit of news i've heard all year.:D

gerryo777

Belly_Dancer wrote: »

Ireland and the UK are signing an agreement today designed to crack down on the number of illegal immigrants crossing over their borders.
The deal will be signed in Dublin by Government representatives of both countries.
This initiative aims to put in place standard entry requirements and enhanced electronic border systems; tightening up on the issuing of visas, and greater exchange of information such as fingerprint biometrics and biographical details.
It is billed as a reinforcement of the commitment by both governments to preserving the Common Travel Area - which came into being in the 1920s to allow for the free movement for nationals of both countries.
In a statement the governments say that the deal aims to prevent abuses of the Common Travel Area arrangement while protecting its benefits to trade and tourism, and will target what are termed ''high-risk'' countries for bogus asylum claims.
It adds that the move could create considerable savings by removing foreign nationals who have no right to stay.
Co-operation in recent months involved checking data provided in 1,700 Irish visa applications, and identified over 200 people applying to come to the Republic who have previously been refused entry to the UK.
The Joint Statement and an accompanying Memorandum of Understanding on visa data exchange will be signed by Minister for Justice Alan Shatter today.
Minister Shatter says it provides a platform for greater cooperation on immigration matters, and opens the way to delivering economic and tourism benefits.

Anyone remember the quote 'closing the stable door after the horse has bolted'....

Tabnabs

plasteritup wrote: »

soooooooooooo funnnnnnnyyyyYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

Now you're keys are sticking - hope Santa's bringing a new keyboard

Morlar

I am trying to think of a single reason why both governments should not have fully co-operated on tackling this problem all along.

Johnny Foreigner

plasteritup wrote: »

ITS FAR FAR FAR TO ****ING LATE FOR THAT,DAMAGE IS DONE.

+1

uberwolf

TheZohan wrote: »

Dear Sir, Madame, would you be as kind as to quote the article please.

Thanks in advance.

Agreed, but once would do the trick.

Morlar

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

+1

So Johnnny Foreigner, if that is your real name. . . .

Belly_Dancer

I suppose this calls for another Candle-lit march?

lolololol:D

giant_midget

This has come about 15 years too late. However this measure is greatly welcome

hooradiation

Tabnabs wrote: »

Now you're keys are sticking - hope Santa's bringing a new keyboard

Look, some people just get very excited when laws like this are announced.

My_left_leg

giant_midget wrote: »

This has come about 15 years too late. However this measure is greatly welcome

i disagree.
where i live there aint that many of them (yet).
now if you live in West Dublin then that's a different matter .......

But in all honesty, who wants to live there?

Johnny Foreigner

Too little too late.
I flew in to Belfast from London on a Sunday night. There was no Passport control. I walked straight through, as did many Africans on the flight. They then boarded the same Dublin bus as me. This has been going on for years. The illegal immigrants and asylum seekers get refused visa's in the UK so they come to the Republic. They live in places like Mosney for 5-6 years while they wait to be processed.
It was good that the border checkpoints were removed after the Good Friday agreement was signed in 1998, but it has now created a problem with immigrants crossing the border unchecked.

gerryo777

Morlar wrote: »

I am trying to think of a single reason why both governments should not have fully co-operated on tackling this problem all along.

The last gutless shower of tossers that ran this country spent 14 years not trying to upset anyone, that's why. Don't upset the immigrants, don't upset the PS, don't upset the unions, don't upset the travellers and so on, it's part of the reason this country is f****d!!!

AnonoBoy

D'economy be fixed now! Hurrah! After all we all know it were the foreigners what done ruined all the banking and no there be no money in the ATM machines when I be looking for it.

starbelgrade

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

I flew in to Belfast from London on a Sunday night. There was no Passport control. I walked straight through, as did many Africans on the flight.

Being black doesn't automatically make someone African. Or illegal.

My_left_leg

starbelgrade wrote: »

Being black doesn't automatically make someone African. Or illegal.

see it's that type of PC bullshine that's created the problem in the first place.

gerryo777

starbelgrade wrote: »

Being black doesn't automatically make someone African. Or illegal.

Ah PC, you can't beat it . Don't think johnny used the word black anywhere in his post!

Freddie59

Thirteen years too late.

starbelgrade

gerryo777 wrote: »

Ah PC, you can't beat it . Don't think johnny used the word black anywhere in his post!

No. But the presumption is that they were African & therefor illegal.

Unless he checked their passports himself.

My_left_leg

Freddie59 wrote: »

Thirteen years too late.

better late than never.
apparently a pilot program highlighted that up to 1 in 3 applicants checked already had been refused entry into the UK.

Bye, bye love .......:D

Johnny Foreigner

starbelgrade wrote: »

Being black doesn't automatically make someone African. Or illegal.

I did not say they were black did I? No.
I said they were African.
I know they were African as they were speaking African not English.
I did not say they were illegal immigrants as I have no way of knowing that, neither did any one else at the Airport as there was no passport control.
My point is that there should have been passport control to check.
Look at the demographics of Mosney.
Where are most of the asylum seekers from?
What colour are they?
Why do you think they fly into Belfast on a Sunday night not Dublin?
Wise up.

gerryo777

starbelgrade wrote: »

No. But the presumption is that they were African & therefor illegal.

Unless he checked their passports himself.

Would you wonder why they were flying to Belfast if they were travelling to Dublin??

AnonoBoy

I love the way it's now the PC Fianna Fail government and all their PC pussy-footing around that f*cked the country.

Sure it wasn't anything to do with our banks being let run rampant with no controls and our property sector becoming vastly over-inflated.

Yup. Part of the reason was the foreigners and the travellers. Definitely.

Bollocks.

starbelgrade

My_left_leg wrote: »

see it's that type of PC bullshine that's created the problem in the first place.

No. I think it's a lack of any clear cross border policy that caused the problem.

I'm sure you'd love to dismiss everything you dislike as "PC bullshit", but in reality you can't as it's a lazy argument which in many cases has no grounds.

ejmaztec

I would imagine that the illegals problem in the UK is pretty much incurable now.

gerryo777

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I love the way it's now the PC Fianna Fail government and all their PC pussy-footing around that f*cked the country.

Sure it wasn't anything to do with our banks being let run rampant with no controls and our property sector becoming vastly over-inflated.

Yup. Part of the reason was the foreigners and the travellers. Definitely.

Bollocks.

I'll continue then, don't upset the bankers, don't upset the developers, don't upset your mates in the Galway tent........ shall I continue or do you get my point.:mad:

Wile E. Coyote

gerryo777 wrote: »

Would you wonder why they were flying to Belfast if they were travelling to Dublin??

You could ask the same about Johnny Foreigner. He did the same thing

starbelgrade

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

I did not say they were black did I? No.
I said they were African.
I know they were African as they were speaking African not English.
I did not say they were illegal immigrants as I have no way of knowing that, neither did any one else at the Airport as there was no passport control.
My point is that there should have been passport control to check.
Look at the demographics of Mosney.
Where are most of the asylum seekers from?
What colour are they?
Why do you think they fly into Belfast on a Sunday night not Dublin?
Wise up.

They were speaking "African"?

Is that some new language that you overheard & recognised?

gerryo777

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

You could ask the same about Johnny Foreigner. He did the same thing

Bloody foreigners!!

starbelgrade

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

Why do you think they fly into Belfast on a Sunday night not Dublin?

Because they wanted to go to Belfast, I would presume.

gerryo777

starbelgrade wrote: »

Because they wanted to go to Belfast, I would presume.

To get a bus to another juristriction???

AnonoBoy

gerryo777 wrote: »

I'll continue then, don't upset the bankers, don't upset the developers, don't upset your mates in the Galway tent........ shall I continue or do you get my point.:mad:

How would upsetting the developers or bankers be PC?

Somehow travellers and illegal immigrants have a part to play in the country's financial downfall? No more than any Irish lad's nixer jobs on which he pays no tax or the bit on the side he got paid for while he was on the dole or the money wasted by the government flushing it away on consultants that did f*ck all or through stupid schemes like e-voting.

Basically they're a drop in the ocean compared to the real reason the country is the way it is now. So your point is pretty weak to be honest.

If you want to rant about illegal immigrants fire away but trying to thrust our economic woes partly onto their shoulders just shows a lack of basic understanding of how the country came to be in the situation it's in.

godscop

Its the same old story, you cant upset them or you are a racist. Well im not a racist but im sick of all the spongers in this country. I have seen people driving an SUV and then they cant pay for the kids football training as we dont have jobs. Too many spongers on a little island..:mad:

AnonoBoy

godscop wrote: »

Its the same old story, you cant upset them or you are a racist. Well im not a racist but im sick of all the spongers in this country. I have seen people driving an SUV and then they cant pay for the kids football training as we dont have jobs. Too many spongers on a little island..:mad:

You're the first person to use the word 'racist' on this thread.

jester77

Candlestick makers to form a protest

godscop

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You're the first person to use the word 'racist' on this thread.

So what ? its what everyone is thinking !

humanji

gerryo777 wrote: »

To get a bus to another juristriction???

Why not get a plane to Dublin? It's a lot easier to get through Irish immigration than that of the UK.

gerryo777

AnonoBoy wrote: »

How would upsetting the developers or bankers be PC?

Somehow travellers and illegal immigrants have a part to play in the country's financial downfall? No more than any Irish lad's nixer jobs on which he pays no tax or the bit on the side he got paid for while he was on the dole or the money wasted by the government flushing it away on consultants that did f*ck all or through stupid schemes like e-voting.

Basically they're a drop in the ocean compared to the real reason the country is the way it is now. So your point is pretty weak to be honest.

If you want to rant about illegal immigrants fire away but trying to thrust our economic woes partly onto their shoulders just shows a lack of basic understanding of how the country came to be in the situation it's in.

Did you see the roma family living in Dublin in the papers there at the weekend. €52k a year in welfare payments, they even had a slave to clean up after them, yes a slave! That's a fair size 'drop in the ocean' don't you think.
Why do you think these immigrants decided to move to Ireland, it was hardly for the weather, was it?
Cop on to yourself and don't come back with any bull about persecution etc etc.....

ejmaztec

AnonoBoy wrote: »

You're the first person to use the word 'racist' on this thread.

And, to quote: "im not racist but"

Chucky the tree

Johnny Foreigner wrote: »

Why do you think they fly into Belfast on a Sunday night not Dublin?
Wise up.

Why did you get a plane to Belfast and then a bus to Dublin?