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Empire Day & The King's Birthday

  • 19-12-2011 2:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭


    If you're wondering when are they taken, it's around now. Most places will be taking them on the 27th and 28th of December this year.

    (This is connected to productivity in the Irish economy, hence I posted in this forum)


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    n97 mini wrote: »
    If you're wondering when are they taken, it's around now. Most places will be taking them on the 27th and 28th of December this year.

    (This is connected to productivity in the Irish economy, hence I posted in this forum)

    what^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    And the award for most obtuse thread goes to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    kceire wrote: »
    what^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:confused:


    I second such sentiments. OP, would you elaborate? I'm actually interested now, :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    RichardAnd wrote: »
    I second such sentiments. OP, would you elaborate? I'm actually interested now, :)

    I think we all know quite well what the OP's intentions are with this thread.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    I think we all know quite well what the OP's intentions are with this thread.

    World Peace......................Maybe :D


    Next Thread started :

    Christmas Day

    Usually happens around this time of year, mainly on the 25th December.............


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    n97 mini wrote: »
    If you're wondering when are they taken, it's around now. Most places will be taking them on the 27th and 28th of December this year.

    (This is connected to productivity in the Irish economy, hence I posted in this forum)

    Never heard of this tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    meglome wrote: »
    Never heard of this tbh.

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/privilege-leave-a-throwback-to-colonialism-2588939.html

    Privilege leave a throwback to colonialism

    PRIVILEGE days originated from the British civil service -- which gave civil servants an extra day off to mark the 'King's Birthday' and another day off to mark 'Empire Day'.

    But when the Irish Free State was established in 1922, most of the civil service stayed on and became the new Irish civil service. It was agreed to give them two privilege days -- one to be taken at Easter and the other to be taken at Christmas. This comes on top of their normal annual leave, which ranges from 20 days to 31 days.

    But when the Department of Finance tried to take privilege days off senior civil servants with the longest leave of 30-31 days -- and reduce them for others -- it met resistance from their unions. The civil service arbitration board welcomed the fact that no union had argued for the retention of privilege days.

    "The concept is archaic and inappropriate to our system of government," it said.

    Unions representing civil servants agreed.

    But they still effectively argued for keeping privilege days under a different name -- by incorporating them into the annual leave of their members.

    Unless the Department of Finance can reach a new agreement, civil service staff will continue to get two privilege days on top of their normal annual leave.

    The British civil service no longer celebrates 'Empire Day' -- it was rebranded as 'Commonwealth Day' in 1958 after the decline of the British Empire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    I had to ask when I got the Kings Birthday off and when I got Empire Day off. Most Public Sector workers know they get them but don't actually know when.

    EDIT: post above explains


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    n97 mini wrote: »
    I had to ask when I got the Kings Birthday off and when I got Empire Day off. Most Public Sector workers know they get them but don't actually know when.

    EDIT: post above explains

    Public servants dont get them!

    Although I doubt you will let the facts get in the way of a stupid rant will you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭RichardAnd


    evilivor wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/privilege-leave-a-throwback-to-colonialism-2588939.html

    Privilege leave a throwback to colonialism

    PRIVILEGE days originated from the British civil service -- which gave civil servants an extra day off to mark the 'King's Birthday' and another day off to mark 'Empire Day'.

    But when the Irish Free State was established in 1922, most of the civil service stayed on and became the new Irish civil service. It was agreed to give them two privilege days -- one to be taken at Easter and the other to be taken at Christmas. This comes on top of their normal annual leave, which ranges from 20 days to 31 days.

    But when the Department of Finance tried to take privilege days off senior civil servants with the longest leave of 30-31 days -- and reduce them for others -- it met resistance from their unions. The civil service arbitration board welcomed the fact that no union had argued for the retention of privilege days.

    "The concept is archaic and inappropriate to our system of government," it said.

    Unions representing civil servants agreed.

    But they still effectively argued for keeping privilege days under a different name -- by incorporating them into the annual leave of their members.

    Unless the Department of Finance can reach a new agreement, civil service staff will continue to get two privilege days on top of their normal annual leave.

    The British civil service no longer celebrates 'Empire Day' -- it was rebranded as 'Commonwealth Day' in 1958 after the decline of the British Empire.


    I actually didn't know that, thank you.

    I still don't see what it has to do with economics mind ...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    evilivor wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/privilege-leave-a-throwback-to-colonialism-2588939.html

    Privilege leave a throwback to colonialism

    PRIVILEGE days originated from the British civil service -- which gave civil servants an extra day off to mark the 'King's Birthday' and another day off to mark 'Empire Day'.

    But when the Irish Free State was established in 1922, most of the civil service stayed on and became the new Irish civil service. It was agreed to give them two privilege days -- one to be taken at Easter and the other to be taken at Christmas. This comes on top of their normal annual leave, which ranges from 20 days to 31 days.

    But when the Department of Finance tried to take privilege days off senior civil servants with the longest leave of 30-31 days -- and reduce them for others -- it met resistance from their unions. The civil service arbitration board welcomed the fact that no union had argued for the retention of privilege days.

    "The concept is archaic and inappropriate to our system of government," it said.

    Unions representing civil servants agreed.

    But they still effectively argued for keeping privilege days under a different name -- by incorporating them into the annual leave of their members.

    Unless the Department of Finance can reach a new agreement, civil service staff will continue to get two privilege days on top of their normal annual leave.

    The British civil service no longer celebrates 'Empire Day' -- it was rebranded as 'Commonwealth Day' in 1958 after the decline of the British Empire.


    Old news better than facts eh :rolleyes:

    Heres some more news you might be interested in
    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01462/war-evac-3_1462836i.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    Old news better than facts eh :rolleyes:

    Heres some more news you might be interested in
    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01462/war-evac-3_1462836i.jpg

    It may be old, doesn't mean it's not a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    evilivor wrote: »
    It may be old, doesn't mean it's not a fact.

    Indeed and the present status of these days is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,613 ✭✭✭evilivor


    Indeed and the present status of these days is?

    They have been converted into two additional days annual leave for civil servants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    n97 mini wrote: »
    I had to ask when I got the Kings Birthday off and when I got Empire Day off. Most Public Sector workers know they get them but don't actually know when.

    Congrats Mini

    I think you have finally taken possession of jimmmy's mantle!

    Enjoy!!

    Error 1: There was only one privilege day at Christmas and would have been 28th December

    Error 2: they no longer exist

    Error 3: the 27th is a Public Holiday (for St Stephen's Day) this year as Christmas is on a Sunday

    They have been converted into two additional days annual leave for civil servants.

    On the recommendation of the Labour Court


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I offer a toast to the king and the empire i'll be looking forward to my 2 days off. Long may it last.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,360 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    evilivor wrote: »
    They have been converted into two additional days annual leave for civil servants.

    and worth noting too, according to this article, only Senior Civil Servants get them.
    allowing senior civil servants to keep the additional to avoid a 'sense of grievance.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Indeed and the present status of these days is?
    They are still awarded, but under a different name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Public servants dont get them!
    As a Public Servant, I and all my colleagues in the organisation got them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,900 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    n97 mini wrote: »
    As a Public Servant, I and all my colleagues in the organisation got them!

    Past tense


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    n97 mini wrote: »
    They are still awarded, but under a different name.
    n97 mini wrote: »
    As a Public Servant, I and all my colleagues in the organisation got them!


    How are these awards distributed?

    When and for what section did you work for in the public service?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Is there really a point to this other than PS-bashing? Oh, and a hilarious attempt to link current leave arrangements to historical dislike of the British Empire.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


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