United back in the Champions League?

greeno

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/16230934.stm

Phoenix Park

i can't do that straw-clutching picture thingy..

Blatter

Phoenix Park wrote: »

i can't do that straw-clutching picture thingy..

Who's clutching at straws?

DB21

Blatter wrote: »

Who's clutching at straws?

Ah shure, UEFA don't you know. United obviously bribed them or something. :rolleyes:

shadowcomplex

Fergies Black Masses in the Vaults of Old Trafford doing there thing I see:D

Liam O

Would be definitely deserved, how do we know Basel didn't cheat too? United were cheated out of a place in the second round if you ask me.

Joke

Mr Alan

Won't happen.

Nor should it.

token56

As a Itd fan I wouldn't like to see it happen. We dont deserve to be there. Would much rather see Munich just get through to the next round, although they would probably beat Utd anyway.

shadowcomplex

token56 wrote: »

As a Itd fan I wouldn't like to see it happen. We dont deserve to be there. Would much rather see Munich just get through to the next round, although they would probably beat Utd anyway.

It would be 50:50, they most certainly would prefer to play Basel then us

Noo

Not gonna happen, too much of a mess, someone will have to be reinstated in the europa league then too.

KevIRL

Wont happen, shouldnt happen and on the outside chance it does happen Utd should respectfully decline the invite to go back into the CL.

Qualify on the pitch or not at all imo

J. Marston

No thanks, United were beaten fair and square. Basel have earned their place and shouldn't lose it due to the actions of another club.

shadowcomplex

Noo wrote: »

Not gonna happen, too much of a mess, someone will have to be reinstated in the europa league then too.

Give it to Liverpool, the fans miss their thursday nights

Captain Havoc

I thought it was Christmas not April fools.

Savman

They intend to punish FC Basel for doing absolutely nothing wrong? Somehow I doubt that would hold up in any court.

Crann na Beatha

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Mr.Crinklewood

Veles wrote: »

lol wut?

:-).

MagicMarker

KevIRL wrote: »

Wont happen, shouldnt happen and on the outside chance it does happen Utd should respectfully decline the invite to go back into the CL.

Qualify on the pitch or not at all imo

lol

If by some miracle this does happen why should UTD decline? Someone's got to fill the gap.

Blatter

The notion that United should decline a (very unlikely) possible invitation back into the competition is kinda cute but totally out of touch with reality.

Peyton Manning

There's a few of us United fans going up to protest outside the Swiss embassy tomorrow, and we've already got a lot of signatures on our petition to ban the sale of Toblerones in Ireland until this is cleared up. You can find more details on our facebook campaign page, or by using the twitter hashtag #CheatingSwissCúnts. Please support, thanks.

Crazy Horse 6

Money talks so of course it could happen.

FearDark

Poor Basel if it does happen. They completely deserve to be in the final 16 and Utd don't. End of.

The_Kew_Tour

You swear twas United fault the way some people go on in here.

Relax, it won't happen.

I know you ABU's have nothing else to **** stir about at moment, so I suppose this is good old United bashing for you.

Sir Gallagher

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You swear twas United fault the way some people go on in here.

Relax, it won't happen.

I know you ABU's have nothing else to **** stir about at moment, so I suppose this is good old United bashing for you.

And there we have it, the bizarre "ABU" persecution complex.

I cant see this happening, there'd be absolute murder if it did.

The_Kew_Tour

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

And there we have it, the bizarre "ABU" persecution complex.

I cant see this happening, there'd be absolute murder if it did.

Of course there would be murder.

Basle deserve to be in next stage and I wish them all the best.

They were the better team over United the group.

But still the old ABU brigade cant resist without an old dig here and there.

Sad.

mormank

Savman wrote: »

They intend to punish FC Basel for doing absolutely nothing wrong? Somehow I doubt that would hold up in any court.

Sure english teams were banned from european competition before, many guiltless ones too. Anyway this is laughable. If the roles were reversed does anyone think for a second that Utd would be dumped out of the Champion's league by Uefa? I can't see them doing it anyway, their corruption becomes too obvious if they do imo. They have to at least try pretend they ain't corrupt.

mormank

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You swear twas United fault the way some people go on in here.

Relax, it won't happen.

I know you ABU's have nothing else to **** stir about at moment, so I suppose this is good old United bashing for you.

ABU? wow there's a phrase I haven't heard since the 90's! Does this still exist? Sure Utd aren't as dominant as they were back then anymore so I think it's becoming more ABC these days.

mike65

The Swiss FA will not screw up Basel by defying FIFA on this issue.

Noo

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Sir Gallagher wrote: »

And there we have it, the bizarre "ABU" persecution complex.

I cant see this happening, there'd be absolute murder if it did.

Of course there would be murder.

Basle deserve to be in next stage and I wish them all the best.

They were the better team over United the group.

But still the old ABU brigade cant resist without an old dig here and there.

Sad.

What are you talking about? What digs? Saying basel were the better team and deserve their place is hardly anything for utd fans to get offended about.

The_Kew_Tour

mormank wrote: »

ABU? wow there's a phrase I haven't heard since the 90's! Does this still exist? Sure Utd aren't as dominant as they were back then anymore so I think it's becoming more ABC these days.

Does it still exist? Is the Pope a Catholic?:pac:

The_Kew_Tour

Noo wrote: »

What are you talking about? What digs? Saying basel were the better team and deserve their place is hardly anything for utd fans to get offended about.

Never said it was, but I wasn't talking about that.

darragh16

mormank wrote: »

ABU? wow there's a phrase I haven't heard since the 90's! Does this still exist? Sure Utd aren't as dominant as they were back then anymore so I think it's becoming more ABC these days.

There will always be ABU's even if Manchester United are woeful...

Anyway, they won't be back in the Champions League.

Keano!

As a United fan, I hate the story. Whether the case of the club Sion is true, fair enough, dump out Basel, but for the love of Fergie don't put United into the game with Bayern.

Give Bayern the bye into the quarters and let us forge our way through the Europa League.

TonyD79

mormank wrote: »

ABU? wow there's a phrase I haven't heard since the 90's! Does this still exist? Sure Utd aren't as dominant as they were back then anymore so I think it's becoming more ABC these days.

What???United won 6 leage titles in 90's and guess how many in 00's?? Yes 6! Two European finals in the 90s winning both but only one European cup. In 00's they have been to 3 European Cup Finals winning one. You could argue they have been more successful in the 00's as the leage has got stronger. The ABU's didnt vanish after City beat them 6-1!

Noo

For me its anyone but utd city chelsea Liverpool and spurs...don't take it personally, utd arent in anyway a special team on that list.

mormank

TonyD79 wrote: »

What???United won 6 leage titles in 90's and guess how many in 00's?? Yes 6! Two European finals in the 90s winning both but only one European cup. In 00's they have been to 3 European Cup Finals winning one. You could argue they have been more successful in the 00's as the leage has got stronger. The ABU's didnt vanish after City beat them 6-1!

Ok. Pedantic much? Let me rephrase that, Utd haven't been as dominant in the 00's as they were in the 90's straight after they won there first Premier league title. Not the ten year period exactly of the 90s but from when they won there first. Not as many titles per year. Europe is europe, a different argument imo as the format of the cup competitions has been so different in the two decades os its hard to compare and contrast actual dominance imo.

mormank

darragh16 wrote: »

There will always be ABU's even if Manchester United are woeful...

Anyway, they won't be back in the Champions League.

I just hate the term. It screams of small town syndrome so to speak. Sure I take a certain pleasure in seeing UTD lose games but that is as much to do with a few of my best mates being Utd fans, if I had no close friends who were Utd fans I wouldn't care even nearly as much. I equally enjoy seeing spurs lose as I have one mate who is a spurs fan. For me it's more to do with friendly rivalries than anything else really. Chelsea have had quite a few losses at Stamford bridge this season for example, however while some of those games have been really good dramatic games of football I take no paticular pleasure in seeing them lose to Arsenal for example. However when Utd and spurs play I enjoy seeing them lose so I can slag my mates. That's not ABUism is it??

mormank

TonyD79 wrote: »

What???United won 6 leage titles in 90's and guess how many in 00's?? Yes 6! Two European finals in the 90s winning both but only one European cup. In 00's they have been to 3 European Cup Finals winning one. You could argue they have been more successful in the 00's as the leage has got stronger. The ABU's didnt vanish after City beat them 6-1!

Plus after Utd won that first PL title only two teams managed to snatch the title from them in the rest of the decade. Blackburn being one who were a one season wonder and went on to fall away significantly. The gunners got their act together towards the end of the decade and gave Utd a serious run for their money for a couple of years but in the 00's Utd were far less dominant as The gunners won two titles in the first half of the decade and chelsea won 3 in the second 5 years with both providing real competition for Utd for significant periods of the decade, something which Utd didn't experience in the 90's. Looks like the next decade will have even more fierce competition for Utd. Not to mention the team that Utd had in the late 90's is probably the second best team to ever grace the PL (the invincibles being the best imo), no such claims can be made imo about any team Utd have put together in the 00's.

tommyhaas

mormank wrote: »

Plus after Utd won that first PL title only two teams managed to snatch the title from them in the rest of the decade. Blackburn being one who were a one season wonder and went on to fall away significantly. The gunners got their act together towards the end of the decade and gave Utd a serious run for their money for a couple of years but in the 00's Utd were far less dominant as The gunners won two titles in the first half of the decade and chelsea won 3 in the second 5 years with both providing real competition for Utd for significant periods of the decade, something which Utd didn't experience in the 90's. Looks like the next decade will have even more fierce competition for Utd. Not to mention the team that Utd had in the late 90's is probably the second best team to ever grace the PL (the invincibles being the best imo), no such claims can be made imo about any team Utd have put together in the 00's.

5 sides won the league in the 90's, only 3 in the 00's

mormank

tommyhaas wrote: »

5 sides won the league in the 90's, only 3 in the 00's

Ok I can see you people are not gonna let this go. I meant Utd were more dominant from the moment they won their first title in the 90's and onwards. That is all I'm referring to as this is when Utd became the dominant force in English football again. Go aheads and argue semantics if you would like. Utd won more PL titles per season from their first win in '93 to the end of the 90's than they did per season in the 00's if you break it down like that. Utd won 6 out of 8 titles during that period of the 90's compared to only 5 in the whole decade of the 00's. Come on people, it's not that difficult to understand is it?? Or are ye all just gonna get bogged down in trying to be clever?

mormank

I don't even know why I'm bothering to try explain this. Everyone who has read it so far knows what I mean or meant at this point. If someone would like to call me up on my spelling or poor grammar thus far feel free also.

SantryRed

mormank wrote: »

Ok I can see you people are not gonna let this go. I meant Utd were more dominant from the moment they won their first title in the 90's and onwards. That is all I'm referring to as this is when Utd became the dominant force in English football again. Go aheads and argue semantics if you would like. Utd won more PL titles per season from their first win in '93 to the end of the 90's than they did per season in the 00's if you break it down like that. Utd won 6 out of 8 titles during that period of the 90's compared to only 5 in the whole decade of the 00's. Come on people, it's not that difficult to understand is it?? Or are ye all just gonna get bogged down in trying to be clever?

Stop digging that hole

Peyton Manning

mormank wrote: »

I don't even know why I'm bothering to try explain this. Everyone who has read it so far knows what I mean or meant at this point. If someone would like to call me up on my spelling or poor grammar thus far feel free also.

That last sentence could have done with a comma in there somewhere, but apart from that, I can't really fault you. Carry on.

K-9

Sure plenty hate Liverpool for no particular reason, its not recent success anyway.

greendom

K-9 wrote: »

Sure plenty hate Liverpool for no particular reason, its not recent success anyway.

Ditto for Arsenal

mormank

SantryRed wrote: »

Stop digging that hole

Lol, sure. Ok lets say Utd had had a 9 year period where they won 7 league titles during the 90s. During this period I personally noticed a massive increase in ABU's. No team, including Utd, has replicated this sort of dominance since, therefore leading to a reduction in ABanythings!!! Why are people being so obtuse about this? Anyway I'm off outa this thread now until a decision is made on this.

d22ontour

mormank wrote: »

Utd won more PL titles per season from their first win in '93 to the end of the 90's than they did per season in the 00's if you break it down like that.

Utd won 6 out of 8 titles during that period of the 90's compared to only 5 in the whole decade of the 00's. Come on people, it's not that difficult to understand is it?? Or are ye all just gonna get bogged down in trying to be clever?

At least have the numbers right ?

93,94,96,97,99 = 5 from 7 but a decade is 10 years....
00,01,03,07,08,09 = 6 from 10

Le King

Wow. That would stuck for Basle who deserve to be where they are.

greendom

Le King wrote: »

Wow. That would stuck for Basle who deserve to be where they are.

I'm sure the Swiss authorities will cave with Basle's place at stake

Iang87

I dont think this will happen but i wanna see the internet explode if it did.

The 17th team.