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Big Bucks 7/4 to go unbeaten

  • 16-12-2011 8:18pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭


    He's running again tomorrow with only Dynaste looking his only obstacle(apart from the hurdles!) and looks unstoppable once again. At the moment he's 7/4 with William Hill to go the rest of the season unbeaten before tomorrows race thinking of throwing a few quid on it. He should win tomorrow then run his usual Cheltenham and Aintree festivals and hopefully win them I can't see him being odd's against either of these runs

    Is it worth the few quid?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    I personally wouldn't. There's bound to be better 7/4 shots in the coming days without needing to wait until the end of the season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    This same bet was 5/1 early last season. I still count it as one of my single biggest missed opps. Read the fine print but if it's just unbeaten, ie he gets injured on the gallops it doesn't affect you, then 7/4 is a very decent price


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Probably a silly question but was wondering why they dont try this horse over the fences as hes won everything over hurdles. Machine of a horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Probably a silly question but was wondering why they dont try this horse over the fences as hes won everything over hurdles. Machine of a horse.

    They did, won a Grade 2 I think but it didn't go well beaten a few times and unseated when beaten in the Hennessy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Has already been over fences. A better hurdler than a chaser.

    Mind you,he's improved massively since going back to hurdles.
    http://www.irishracing.com/v5horseinfo?prt=286803


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,404 ✭✭✭mr.jingle


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Probably a silly question but was wondering why they dont try this horse over the fences as hes won everything over hurdles. Machine of a horse.

    Direct quote from Nicholls after today's race: "We'll have to see, but I wouldn't have thought he would run again until Cheltenham. He won't ever go over fences now, he doesn't like them and he is too good at that job." So i'll take that as a no!

    Sorry i didn't back that 7/4 now would have been nice to have a few quid come April or so but as you said there will be better 7/4 shots before then!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    mr.jingle wrote: »
    Direct quote from Nicholls after today's race: "We'll have to see, but I wouldn't have thought he would run again until Cheltenham. He won't ever go over fences now, he doesn't like them and he is too good at that job." So i'll take that as a no!

    Sorry i didn't back that 7/4 now would have been nice to have a few quid come April or so but as you said there will be better 7/4 shots before then!

    Please let us know when these aeroplanes are running


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    The thing to remember with a bet like this is the plan will be World Hurdle and then Aintree I'd guess

    He was 1/3 today when the thread was made. He's now 4/6 for the World Hurdle. This implies that he'd need to be around 1.24 at Aintree for the bet to be value. I personally don't think he will be that short. Of course if he runs again before Cheltenham then the figures look worse again

    The same bet was 3/1 with Hills before his seasonal debut which he won at 1/8. Now that was value!

    Off topic Stan James briefly went 4/11 this morning for The Long Walk. Had I not been on the verge of dying from a hangover I'd have had my max on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    The thing to remember with a bet like this is the plan will be World Hurdle and then Aintree I'd guess

    He was 1/3 today when the thread was made. He's now 4/6 for the World Hurdle. This implies that he'd need to be around 1.24 at Aintree for the bet to be value. I personally don't think he will be that short. Of course if he runs again before Cheltenham then the figures look worse again

    The same bet was 3/1 with Hills before his seasonal debut which he won at 1/8. Now that was value!

    Off topic Stan James briefly went 4/11 this morning for The Long Walk. Had I not been on the verge of dying from a hangover I'd have had my max on

    So there probably are better 7/4 shots running every week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,873 ✭✭✭RichieLawlor


    So there probably are better 7/4 shots running every week

    It baffles me how he was as big as 1/3 today


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    It baffles me how he was as big as 1/3 today

    Didn't get it myself, not sure I've ever backed a 1/3 shot but this was the best value 1/3 shot you'll ever back. Even with Dynaste in I'd him about 1/5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    He won again today for the 17th time in a row to break the record for longest unbeaten streak in horsie history. Winner alright, winner alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    He ran 4 times after anyone would have placed this bet

    Accumulative odds at SP would have paid 3.64 (2.64/1) (needless to say higher had you taken early priced with BOG. Stating the obvious this is bigger than 7/4

    At the time I didn't think he'd run in January, take that out it's 2.91 (1.91/1). Ditto re th3 7/4

    while there was always a possibility that after the long walk he might not have run again the 7/4 was poor value even though it won.....


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