Selling my Octavia VRS (sob!) recommend me a boring car!

privateBeavis

I have the car almost a year now (its a 2010 TDI VRS) but it looks like I'm going to have to change it for a "boring" car.

Story is it was robbed from the house a few months ago, house was broken into in the middle of the night and keys taken while we were asleep upstairs. Only noticed the next morning when I came down but thankfully I got it back within a few hours thanks to the GPS tracker I had in it. No damage done or anything looks like it was driven straight to random housing estate to wait and see if it was being tracked!

Anyways after that we talked about changing but decided in the end to keep it (i.e. whats the chances of that happening again!!).

But then within the last week the next door neighbours house was robbed in the evening while they were out for an hour and we were in the house. So now are paranoia is setting in and the missus definitely wants to change car to something that wont attract the wrong kind of attention!!! And every time she's out somewhere with the car she feel threatened as if someone is going to try rob her for the car!! (I know its only a skoda :eek:)

Its just a sad day when you can't own something nice without fear of some robbin ba%#ards trying to take it!!

On one hand I'd say feck it and just keep the car but just for peace of mind with family and all I think I'm going to go ahead and change it. Absolutely love the car (big boot for the pram, lots of gagdets and plenty of power!) so am gutted to have to sell.


So firstly what you think a VRS is going to be hard to sell? its a black VRS with leather/heated seat options and what do you guys think its worth. I see one 2010 on carzone for 20k so would I be lucky to get 18k private/trade?

Then there's the question of what to replace it with. I'm thinking along the lines of a Avensis or Mondeo but then if I get the 2.0 TDI version are they just as likely to be targeted, (i.e. its all random anyways!) or should I give in the missus desire for a people carrier ( hey who'd want to rob a people carrier right!).

I'm guessing it would be better if I sold privately and then go to garage for cash deal. But if I did go with the trade in option (basically for car of roughly same value, might even go up year) would I be getting screwed with the trade in rate at a dealers?

MidlandsM

Why let creamers dictate what you drive and have in your life.....get a nice vicious BIG DOG!

Marcusm

Sorry to hear your story. It's funny to think though that is 20 years ago, someone suggested a diesel Skoda might be a target for joyriders, they'd be laughed at. Funny how life moves on and cars develop.

mullingar

I would not sell it.

I would rebadge it as a 1.4 16v:rolleyes: , put on steel rims, put standard bumpers on it . Sleeper

pcardin

Don't know even what to suggest you to buy. Octavia is boring enough car imo. :pac:

Mr Benevolent

Rebadge it, put on steelies and a few mods to make it less desirable is the way to go imo.

privateBeavis

pcardin wrote: »

Don't know even what to suggest you to buy. Octavia is boring enough car imo. :pac:

I know I thought I was safe enough buying it!! Although I think that is the appeal of it for a getaway car, it doesn't really stand out!

166man

mullingar wrote: »

I would not sell it.

I would rebadge it as a 1.4 16v:rolleyes: , put on steel rims, put standard bumpers on it . Sleeper

^^^This.. +1000!:D

alias no.9

You asked for it...

Atomic Pineapple

I'm guessing it was taken to be used as a fairly inconspicuous semi fast saloon in a robbery, so you should in fact be looking for an impractical two seater sports coupe?

mondeo

Keep the thing, get an alarm on your house! My cousin has Alsatian pups, they will grow up and feed on Human blood. Ya want one? I can arrange it for ya

pcardin

draffodx wrote: »

I'm guessing it was taken to be used as a fairly inconspicuous semi fast saloon in a robbery, so you should be in fact be looking for an impractical two seater sports coupe?

+1 on that

MGF will do. Boring and absolutely unreliable for gateaway car.

privateBeavis

draffodx wrote: »

I'm guessing it was taken to be used as a fairly inconspicuous semi fast saloon in a robbery, so you should be in fact be looking for an impractical two seater sports coupe?

... Excellent! I'll pass that one by the missus!

privateBeavis

mondeo wrote: »

Keep the thing, get an alarm on your house! My cousin has Alsatian pups, they will grow up and feed on Human blood. Ya want one? I can arrange it for ya

We have an alarm... just weren't switching it on at night. But we are now so hopefully that and the camera I'm going to put outside will be enough of a deterrent! (Although they did break in with an Eircom phonewatch box on the front of the house)

R.O.R

Get a security Bollard to block the driveway. Should deter the thiefs enough that they don't bother with your car.

Also, get a big ass scary dog just in case they do come in looking for the bollard key and car keys.

If you do change a normal Octavia would do the job surely, what car did your neighbour have robbed?

Vicxas

What about a Clifford alarm? surely its cheaper then selling the car...



Failing that ill give you 50 dorrah for it

Mena

How will you survive with the lack of boot space if you sell the car, young family 'n all...?

no1beemerfan

Mena wrote: »

How will you survive with the lack of boot space if you sell the car, young family 'n all...?

Just move into the skoda. Save you the household charge too

Henry Ford III

This will sound a bit severe, but isn't intended to be - would you consider moving house?

EPM

I love how people pull the piss out of the car when the OP wants advice. There's an off topic thread for the octavia boot jokes.

OP I reckon you'd do best swapping it in for a Superb financially tbh.

-Corkie-

I presume the advice of putting steel wheels and normal bumpers are a joke otherwise its insane advice.

ROR has given the best advice OP or get a Superb as EPM said.

EPM

-Corkie- wrote: »

I presume the advice of putting steel wheels and normal bumpers are a joke otherwise its insane advice.

ROR has given the best advice OP or get a Superb as EPM said.

It's silly advice about changing bumpers and wheels (as well as hideously expensive) as the thieving scum aren't stupid and will still know it's a vrs as there's some giveaway bits that simply aren't changeable without a serious spend.

ottostreet

I wouldn't change. **** them. 1k on an awesome max to the max alarm, a big Rottweiler inside, and a good house alarm.

You like the car. Don't change. **** them.

Mr Benevolent

Security bollard is the way to go. Otherwise I'll swap you for my 156 and a sixpack of grey socks.

galwaytt

Henry Ford III wrote: »

This will sound a bit severe, but isn't intended to be - would you consider moving house?

I was thinking the same thing....you want to change the car so that robbers won't like it? Why live there, then? What if the next robbers want.....your TV ? PS3? Will you change them too?

That's no way to live, imho...knowing you're a target......or that someone's watching your stuff.....

When you think about it, it git stolen because of your house security....so why not address that, instead? +1 on camera's btw....

bazz26

Alarms and dogs are great but hardened criminals rather than opportunist joyriders are less likely to be deterred by these things. The last thing you want is these thugs coming up into your bedroom demanding the keys.

If the OP does not feel safe or secure anymore having this car which is understandable, then it's time to part with it. Yes it is sickening to allow these thugs to rule your life but at the end of the day it is only piece of metal that can be replaced if stolen. You or your loved ones cannot.

galwaytt

bazz26 wrote: »

Alarms and dogs are great but hardened criminals rather than opportunist joyriders are less likely to be deterred by these things. The last thing you want is these thugs coming up into your bedroom demanding the keys.

If the OP does not feel safe or secure anymore having this car which is understandable, then it's time to part with it. Yes it is sickening to allow these thugs to rule your life but at the end of the day it is only piece of metal that can be replaced if stolen. You or your loved ones cannot.

Yes, but the choice of car is not the problem- I bet his neighbour's car wasn't a VRS.....so not having one isn't going to make him safer....

JJJJNR

Why not park thec ar away from the house, i think that would be far better, even just across the road, that way would be robbers wouldnt know which house to burgle,

C4Kid

bazz26 wrote: »

Yes it is sickening to allow these thugs to rule your life but at the end of the day it is only piece of metal that can be replaced if stolen. You or your loved ones cannot.

Yet another reason why you can't have a desirable car in Ireland.:mad:

btkm8unsl0w5r4

You will loose a ton of money changing, spend on upgrading the security on your house to make it a big deterrent. There are plenty of nice cars out there and robbers will rob them, why should you be the one without. I had a very nice car robbed, but that won't stop me enjoying my hobby. Do think the guards need to start tackling this problem more, if some guy held a post office up with a knife for 3k there would be a manhunt, 35k motor gets nicked and its all condolences and Sweet FA investigation.

galwaytt

galwaytt wrote: »

I was thinking the same thing....you want to change the car so that robbers won't like it? Why live there, then? ................

I wouldn't think where the OP is living is the problem really, folks who rob cars and stash them away to be used in the future are willing to put a bit of effort into sourcing suitable motors and obtaining them, where the owner of the car lives wouldn't be a factor.

Brayson Ugly Midget wrote: »

................ if some guy held a post office up with a knife for 3k there would be a manhunt, 35k motor gets nicked and its all condolences and Sweet FA investigation.

You seem to be thinking the value of the theft is more important that how the offence is committed, armed robbery is and fingers crossed always will be treated more severely by the legal system than car theft.

In any cases where folks are threatened at knifepoint to hand over their cars or car keys I'm quite certain the response of the Gardai would be similar to that if the local postoffice was held up at knifepoint

In a case of car theft where the owner hasn't been threatened or confronted by the car thief there is obviously not too much to go on investigation wise unless there are witnesses.

mondeo

JJJJNR wrote: »

Why not park thec ar away from the house, i think that would be far better, even just across the road, that way would be robbers wouldnt know which house to burgle,

More then likely they have been around the car a few times to verify where the owner lives. I'm sure they do some sort of stakeout prior to lifting a high performance car.


Touching bases on what I saw on tv the other day, One of the Irish channels had someone on telling people to leave their car keys visible downstairs. Free fookn advertisement for thieves! Leave all your keys downstairs near your letter box so thieves can have a merry Xmas for themselves.
I use to adapt this idea but I don't now. Out of fear people will leave their keys visible but if your living in fear then what's the point in living? The keys to my Volvo are hidden away every night. Alarm is on the house with night sensor lights at front and back. Not everyone will agree with the way I'm doing things but luckily I've had no break ins.

JJJJNR

mondeo wrote: »

More then likely they have been around the car a few times to verify where the owner lives. I'm sure they do some sort of stakeout prior to lifting a high performance car.


Touching bases on what I saw on tv the other day, One of the Irish channels had someone on telling people to leave their car keys visible downstairs. Free fookn advertisement for thieves! Leave all your keys downstairs near your letter box so thieves can have a merry Xmas for themselves.
I use to adapt this idea but I don't now. Out of fear people will leave their keys visible but if your living in fear then what's the point in living? The keys to my Volvo are hidden away every night. Alarm is on the house with night sensor lights at front and back. Not everyone will agree with the way I'm doing things but luckily I've had no break ins.

Re:high performance - i seriously doubt they wouldbe staking a place out for vrs, no jokes ñow serious.

Matthewjohn

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How about this 10 2.0 tdi 140 bhp passat new shape

mustang01

plenty of bland boring cars out der, most the toyota and nissan range a raider wouldnt touch coz they know they prob fall asleep driving away in them they are such boring cars !

mondeo

JJJJNR wrote: »

Re:high performance - i seriously doubt they wouldbe staking a place out for vrs, no jokes ñow serious.

Well a VRS is no evo I suppose. I'm sure they have some sort of knowledge as to which house the cars belongs prior to a forced entry. Stakeout is probably abit ott:p

Considering many junkies watch folk coming and going before they break in to steal the DVD and laptop it's very reasonable to expect folks who steal cars to at least know which house to break into to attain car keys to the motor they covet :pac:

btkm8unsl0w5r4

RoverJames wrote: »

In any cases where folks are threatened at knifepoint to hand over their cars or car keys I'm quite certain the response of the Gardai would be similar to that if the local postoffice was held up at knifepoint

In a case of car theft where the owner hasn't been threatened or confronted by the car thief there is obviously not too much to go on investigation wise unless there are witnesses.

Well then I wish I have the key in my pocket in my bedroom so the robbers could have visited me in bed and traumatized my wife :roll eyes: Maybe the guards would have bothered to investigate more. God damn I had to tell the guards my car was on crime line used in a crime (for which there were plenty of suspects by the detectives own admission), how unconnected is their system and methods if they can miss that. When I rang the guards about it he asked me what colour my car was....this the same detective with whom I had been in contact with 5 or 6 times over the matter.

I think it somebody come into your home to take the second most valuable item most people own after their house, the guards should assume that they would do violence to get it after all that trouble to get in. Do they only wait until serious crime is done to catch and deter these scum from doing it?

Brayson Ugly Midget

To be fair Fitz I didn't mean to personalise with my comments

But since you've asked I'll give my views on what you've mentioned..

Brayson Ugly Midget wrote: »

Well then I wish I have the key in my pocket in my bedroom so the robbers could have visited me in bed and traumatized my wife :roll eyes: Maybe the guards would have bothered to investigate more.

I'm sure they would have, as are you

Brayson Ugly Midget wrote: »

God damn I had to tell the guards my car was on crime line used in a crime (for which there were plenty of suspects by the detectives own admission), how unconnected is their system and methods if they can miss that. When I rang the guards about it he asked me what colour my car was....this the same detective with whom I had been in contact with 5 or 6 times over the matter.

I can't really comment on that as I wouldn't know much about the AGS systems etc, interestingly when someone posted a thread on here about their car being stolen when it was recovered a member of AGS did ask how the chap rated the Gardai involved or something to that effect, I don't recall a similar post on your thread.

Brayson Ugly Midget wrote: »

I think it somebody come into your home to take the second most valuable item most people own after their house, the guards should assume that they would do violence to get it after all that trouble to get in. Do they only wait until serious crime is done to catch and deter these scum from doing it?

I wouldn't agree with that assumption, sentences approaching 7 years ish + wouldn't be uncommon for armed robbery, it's not a reasonable assumption to make, a car thief may be more than a car thief but the punishment should fit the crime, assumption being the mother of all ... etc etc

I imagine often there might be an element of they have a fair idea who maybe involved but nipping it in the bud may not be the employed tactics, similar to drug dealing, it's common knowledge who's behind it but often it appears to be going on too freely, give them enough rope....

Again, I didn't want to personalise and my comments were in general

vectra

JJJJNR wrote: »

Re:high performance - i seriously doubt they wouldbe staking a place out for vrs, no jokes ñow serious.

No race car but not a slouch either.

@ OP
Sell it and buy a white one..
Sticks out like a sore thumb so thieves would be too easily spotted in it.

Fishtits

OP, move house and install a decent security system.

pajo1981

They really need to up sentences on house breakins. it really is a nasty thing to have happen to you.

More bricks more bars. considerably longer sentences. cut welfare to nothing.

write to your local td.

Mr Benevolent

Cutting welfare to nothing means they won't have any money, hence MORE crime, no less.

eringobragh

Fishtits wrote: »

OP, move house and install a decent security system.

Better yet...go Padraig Nally style on them!

They'll think twice about breaking in again when they've a hole the size of an apple in them.

deadlast

Keep car, put house alarm on at night, get better locks on ALL doors dead bolts for night, sensor lights all round, removable bollard, yappy dog, sleep sound and enjoy the car!

vectra

Confab wrote: »

Cutting welfare to nothing means they won't have any money, hence MORE crime, no less.

So Statistics prove it is only people on welfare are doing this?

Compton

vectra wrote: »

So Statistics prove it is only people on welfare are doing this?

According to after hours, yes.

vectra

shblob wrote: »

According to after hours, yes.

Have you got a link to the stats to back this up?

pajo1981

Cutting welfare means you can affordto be a low tax economy with more jobs and more incentive to work.

Taking money out of a stretched economy to give to criminals is perverted.

MugMugs

Well this is way off topic.

+1 to the Superb OP.

Friend had the same issues as you are having with his old vRS. In the end, his family took preference so they won. :mad: