NORTHERN IRELAND BJJ OPEN 15th JAN

wingnut4

NI BJJ (GI) OPEN 2012

Venue: Valley Leisure Centre, Newtonabbey, Belfast
Date: Sunday 15th January
Time: Registration is at 10.30am, fights start at 11am
Cost: £15

Rules are by IBJJF Rules. For more information contact your coach or you can check online.

CLOSING DATE: MIDNIGHT JANUARY 12th 2012

PREPAY ONLY: To make the event run more smoothly we are having a prepay only which can be paid by paypal to: peter@poleproducts.com or alternativly it can be paid by cheque to Peter Lavery. Contact for address details.

There will be NO ENTRIES on the day and there will be NO WEIGHT ALLOWANCE. Weights and rules as per IBJJF.

There will be a list of the competitors put online before the competition. Please check that your details are on it.

Please fill in the application form attached, paypal email address and invoice number, and send the details to peterlavery701@msn.com.


Thank you

David Jones

Predicting questions like is it gi or no gi? Can you pay and enter on the day? 😄 Good luck with comp though, valley is a great venue.

wingnut4

woops

David Jones

Sarcasm definitely doesn't come across on net!

I was merely preempting the usual line of questions to answers already given!

wingnut4

hahahahahahaha god im so stupid,lol,

Barry.Oglesby

Nice one guys. here's hoping the weather is kind!

wingnut4

dont forget to email me barry :-)

cowzerp

Serious question here-we have open's in each province-so why is this not the Ulster open?

it just seems like the Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan don't get an open..

pablohoney87

wingnut4 wrote: »

NI BJJ (GI) OPEN 2012

Venue: Valley Leisure Centre, Newtonabbey, Belfast
Date: Saturday 15th January

15Th is a Sunday?

Marty Mc

please clarify the correct date and day -

you have saturday the 15th posted when the saturday is in actual fact the 14th.

manga_10

It definitely is the 14th, remember someone posting recently enough about it

wingnut4

Sunday 15th, apologies was looking at 2011

pablohoney87

wingnut4 wrote: »

Sunday 15th, apologies was looking at 2011

In that case you have my attendance confirmed. looking forward to it. wish more competitions were on Sundays

Barry.Oglesby

wingnut4 wrote: »

dont forget to email me barry :-)

All over it this evening Claire!

dasmoose

are heel hooks allowed?

manga_10

Yeah Most of my club will be attending
Ya plan on putting someone in A and E mark ?

Killme00

dasmoose wrote: »

are heel hooks allowed?

Guard pulling?

Shane Fitz

Killme00 wrote: »

dasmoose wrote: »

are heel hooks allowed?

Guard pulling?

Dont you mean butt scooting?

manga_10

Butt scooting ain't allowed by ibjjf rules I think

Killme00

manga_10 wrote: »

Butt scooting ain't allowed by ibjjf rules I think

Butt scooting is a myth

da-bres

but scooting or mongo's afraid to pass guard

Shane Fitz

manga_10 wrote: »

Butt scooting ain't allowed by ibjjf rules I think

Ya missed the humour there man.

MarkB_

Will there be an absolute at all?

Stillweak

da-bres wrote: »

but scooting or mongo's afraid to pass guard

Did you say that to your friend Tom at Grapplepalooza.

(just to clarify, not having a go a Tom, Im a fan, just sayin)

manga_10

Shane Fitz wrote: »

Ya missed the humour there man.

yeah blonde moment:p

da-bres

Stillweak wrote: »

Did you say that to your friend Tom at Grapplepalooza.

(just to clarify, not having a go a Tom, Im a fan, just sayin)

Have'n a clue what your on about mate

EnjoyChoke

Stillweak wrote: »

Did you say that to your friend Tom at Grapplepalooza.

(just to clarify, not having a go a Tom, Im a fan, just sayin)

He is referring to people on top who cannot pass guard and insist on disengaging.
This is:
A. illegal under the rules.
B. Cowardly in a grappling competition.
It's not MMA, you MUST engage the guard. Some refs are far to lenient on this. (Glad you're a fan )

Stillweak

da-bres wrote: »

Have'n a clue what your on about mate

Neither do I obviously.
I picked your comment up wrong. I thought you were giving out about ''butt scooting'' and saying people who didnt go for a takedown and pass were mongos. I remembered Tom sitting down at grapplepalooza, knowing how much you respect him, I made a rushed comment.
My apologies

Barry.Oglesby

Stillweak wrote: »

Neither do I obviously.
I picked your comment up wrong. I thought you were giving out about ''butt scooting'' and saying people who didnt go for a takedown and pass were mongos. I remembered Tom sitting down at grapplepalooza, knowing how much you respect him, I made a rushed comment.
My apologies

He didn't "sit down", he made contact with the opponent and then sat into guard. If his opponent wants to avoid this he has to be quicker and establish contact first or prevent the guard pull by either holding his opponent up or catching the leg and getting takedown points. You can't just "sit down" in BJJ.

People in BJJ don't understand the guard pulling/grip rule really. It would probably be a good idea for people to ask their coaches on that. I certainly got some clarification on it at the ref's course.

lawrencesummers

EnjoyChoke wrote: »

Stillweak wrote: »

Did you say that to your friend Tom at Grapplepalooza.

(just to clarify, not having a go a Tom, Im a fan, just sayin)

He is referring to people on top who cannot pass guard and insist on disengaging.
This is:
A. illegal under the rules.
........:) )

Just out of interest, what rule covers it, do you have a link?

dasmoose

A-) The athlete will only be allowed to kneel after having taken hold of his opponents kimono.

B-) When either of the athletes run to one of the extremities of the ring to avoid combat, or while ground fighting flee by crawling or rolling out of the ring or by standing up avoiding engaging or purposely stepping out of the ring to gain time.

from: http://www.ibjjf.org/rules.htm

Not the clearest but you get the idea. Once A takes a grip he can sit or kneel to the ground, at that point if B avoids engaging (i.e. breaks the grip and backs off) that is a foul.

FYI they're bringing out a new rulebook very soon, portuguese version is already finished, english one has had actual translators working on it. So should be 100x better than what we have at the minute!

Shane Fitz

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Just out of interest, what rule covers it, do you have a link?

here is a link to the IBJJF rules page http://www.ibjjf.org/rules.htm

specifically you are looking for Article 5, Fouls not as Serious, part E..

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]E-) When the athlete stalls the fight, holding his adversary and, not seeking to engage or gain submissions when in the guard, on top, or on the bottom.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Holding the opponent, standing up, or any position designed to stall. Noticing this the referee will request that 20 seconds be marked and say “LUTE”, making the gesture. At the end of the 20 seconds if the athlete hasn’t changed his position or shown visible signs of engagement, the referee say again “LUTE” and make the same gesture, penalising the atlhete and giving an advantage for the other, if he continues stalling the referee will stop the fight saying “PAROU”, and he will penalise the same, giving 2 points for the other, and both athletes will return to their feet at neutral positions. With the possibility of disqualification on the next offence[/FONT]

dasmoose

Hehe i guess its covered more than once!

New rulebook in portuguese, some of it is actually pretty easy to understand because there are lots of pictures.

http://www.cbjj.com.br/docs/regrasibjjf-1aedicao.pdf

Barry.Oglesby

Shane Fitz wrote: »

lawrencesummers wrote: »

Just out of interest, what rule covers it, do you have a link?

here is a link to the IBJJF rules page http://www.ibjjf.org/rules.htm

specifically you are looking for Article 5, Fouls not as Serious, part E..

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]E-) When the athlete stalls the fight, holding his adversary and, not seeking to engage or gain submissions when in the guard, on top, or on the bottom.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Holding the opponent, standing up, or any position designed to stall. Noticing this the referee will request that 20 seconds be marked and say “LUTE”, making the gesture. At the end of the 20 seconds if the athlete hasn’t changed his position or shown visible signs of engagement, the referee say again “LUTE” and make the same gesture, penalising the atlhete and giving an advantage for the other, if he continues stalling the referee will stop the fight saying “PAROU”, and he will penalise the same, giving 2 points for the other, and both athletes will return to their feet at neutral positions. With the possibility of disqualification on the next offence[/FONT]

Go Stato!

Jason McCabe

manga_10 wrote: »

It definitely is the 14th, remember someone posting recently enough about it

Definit

weemate

according to this link...http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056437856
it was always the 15th........the only difference is that I have dropped the price....

bjj-fighter

Will there be any teens category? Know a few teenagers around 55kg looking to compete. Thanks

manga_10

hope so as there are a good squad of youngins at our club

dasmoose

any other purples entering?

manga_10

Nah they heard you were entering and decided that the curry monster was too much

jimb0_d

I believe it has been asked already but I haven't seen a response - is there going to be a white belt absolute division? They have been pretty fun at the last few competitions I've been to

AllianceBJJ Ireland

dasmoose wrote: »

any other purples entering?

We will have a few guys heading up from Alliance in Sligo... 1 maybe 2 purple belts.

dasmoose

AllianceBJJ Ireland wrote: »

dasmoose wrote: »

any other purples entering?

We will have a few guys heading up from Alliance in Sligo... 1 maybe 2 purple belts.

Awesome! See you on the mat :-)

Jason McCabe

Is there teen? The best way to grow any sport is through the juniors

weemate

we will try to put a teen section on if there are enough numbers.....so far I have entries from my own team and no-one else.......the sooner we get the forms in then we can have a better idea of categories.
we have been contacted by some teens from different teams so I would imagine we will have enough on the day.

Barry.Oglesby

weemate wrote: »

we will try to put a teen section on if there are enough numbers.....so far I have entries from my own team and no-one else.......the sooner we get the forms in then we can have a better idea of categories.
we have been contacted by some teens from different teams so I would imagine we will have enough on the day.

I have 3 interested teens but they have no transport obviously so have to arrange in advance. If you're definitely putting a teen section on I'll ask them but until they know for sure there's a competition for them to enter I can't imagine their parents commiting to bring them. Let me know when you know.

Mark, 1 purple belt with Christmas flab on him competing anyway. No heel hugs though.

dasmoose

Sweet! I'm sure we can have a vale tudo match with heel hugs outside in the car park

Jason McCabe

dasmoose wrote: »

Sweet! I'm sure we can have a vale tudo match with heel hugs outside in the car park

The teen section at our last nogi was a good size. Maybe about 25 of them altogether

I would imagine a good few would be interested.

dasmoose

your teens want to do a vale tudo match in the car park?

manga_10

those guys are definitely game and barry its more cushioning for when other guys are in mount or knee on belly

minkybananas

HI, i just wondered if it's just the email address associated with your paypal account that you need when filling out the registration form?