Irish Open 12 Dublin?

Tin_Cup · 12-12-2011 9:09am #1

Looks like it could be a runner according to Irish Examiner. Have to say I love the course in Killarney and was a decent spot to go watch. (personally would be handy to be able to stay at home and travel each day to it)

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/golf/irish-open-set-for-dublin-return-176972.html

Where do you think the host venue will be? Portmarnock?

Tones69 · 12-12-2011 12:57pm

I know its Co Wicklow but would The European Club not be a front runner??

Leslie91 · 12-12-2011 1:08pm

Dublin area?... Does that mean in Co. Dublin I wonder or close enough to Dublin?. Druids Glen would be considered Wicklow too right?. Not saying it should go there. Just wondering what they mean by Duiblin area.

BigChap1759 · 12-12-2011 1:15pm

I'm presuming it means something around Dublin ie not Kerry! Don't think The European has the infrastructure to host a European Tour event - would have thought Carton House would be an obvious choice?

Gophur · 12-12-2011 1:16pm

Based on 2011, I would wager one whole of your Euro coins on it going to Killeen Castle!

dvemail · 12-12-2011 1:37pm

Tbh i don't mind where it ends up just as long as it can secure a long term sponsor.
Could be a case where a new sponsor will only agree to sponsor it if it is to be held near the capital.

deko43 · 13-12-2011 8:55am

According to todays Irish times Carton House is a front runner. I thought the last two stagings there were pretty boring. I know its a great design
but it is not very easy on the eye in terms of TV coverage.
Would love to see it back in Portmarnock. You are gauranteed big galleries and it could well attract some big names in preparation for the Open.

saintastic · 13-12-2011 9:34am

deko43 wrote: »

According to todays Irish times Carton House is a front runner. I thought the last two stagings there were pretty boring. I know its a great design
but it is not very easy on the eye in terms of TV coverage.
Would love to see it back in Portmarnock. You are gauranteed big galleries and it could well attract some big names in preparation for the Open.

Great shout, Portmarnock would be excellent, good course, good test and as you say, prep for the Open for some.

I read the article in the Irish Times and it really just felt like speculation on their part, almost as if they read this thread!!

f22 · 13-12-2011 9:35am

Wasn't there a mention of Royal Dublin showing interest at one stage?

shaneon77 · 13-12-2011 10:28am

Gophur wrote: »

Based on 2011, I would wager one whole of your Euro coins on it going to Killeen Castle!

i second that motion. foregolf is moving to killeen castle too.

jtown · 13-12-2011 10:33am

saintastic wrote: »

Great shout, Portmarnock would be excellent, good course, good test and as you say, prep for the Open for some.

I read the article in the Irish Times and it really just felt like speculation on their part, almost as if they read this thread!!

I would totally agree on that.

gorfield · 13-12-2011 11:53am

Portmarnock.

mikeunt · 13-12-2011 12:01pm

gorfield wrote: »

Portmarnock.

Big shane will be on his knees hoping for hurricane-like conditions again so;)

gorfield · 13-12-2011 12:17pm

mikeunt wrote: »

Big shane will be on his knees hoping for hurricane-like conditions again so;)

Big Shane as you call him is well able to compete with the big boys in flat calm sunny conditions.....as his 144k cheque from the dubai world championship will prove......

mike12 · 13-12-2011 1:20pm

Was talking to Pat Ruddy Jr after it had been held in Baltray and they thought they had it that year. Would love to see it on a links course. Would the Links in Portmarnock be in the running.
Mike

f22 · 13-12-2011 1:31pm

mike12 wrote: »

Was talking to Pat Ruddy Jr after it had been held in Baltray and they thought they had it that year. Would love to see it on a links course. Would the Links in Portmarnock be in the running.
Mike

Links doesn't have the room for big crowds/tented village etc.

dvemail · 13-12-2011 1:52pm

I think Killarney has been a great host over the last two years, despite it not being a great spectator course the crowds turned up i their thousands.
One thing i noticed about Killarney was the lack of stands about the course. Think they only has one at the 1st tee and by the 18th green. Plus most of the holes have raised greens making it hard viewing also, so i think it's time to move to a more spectator friendly course.

jtown · 13-12-2011 1:54pm

dvemail wrote: »

I think Killarney has been a great host over the last two years, despite it not being a great spectator course the crowds turned up i their thousands.
One thing i noticed about Killarney was the lack of stands about the course. Think they only has one at the 1st tee and by the 18th green. Plus most of the holes have raised greens making it hard viewing also, so i think it's time to move to a more spectator friendly course.

where??

dvemail · 13-12-2011 1:59pm

jtown wrote: »

where??

I can only speak from courses that i've seen host the Irish Open but I'd pick Adare, Baltray or Portmarnock. With my preference being Portmarnock as i would love to see it being played on a links course again.

deko43 · 13-12-2011 3:10pm

f22 wrote: »

Links doesn't have the room for big crowds/tented village etc.

Think the top class pros would eat the Links for breakfast.
I dont think they have the room to move tees back too much.
They could grow the rough up ( like it was when it opened first and I lost 12 balls in one round !)but dont think they would want to do that
to protect their green fee revenue.

tamloc · 13-12-2011 9:12pm

deko43 wrote: »

f22 wrote: »

Links doesn't have the room for big crowds/tented village etc.

Think the top class pros would eat the Links for breakfast.
I dont think they have the room to move tees back too much.
They could grow the rough up ( like it was when it opened first and I lost 12 balls in one round !)but dont think they would want to do that to protect their green fee revenue.

I know it's not a links course but I would love to see palmerstown house host the Irish open. Best parkland course in the east. Imo.

FixdePitchmark · 13-12-2011 9:41pm

deko43 wrote: »

Think the top class pros would eat the Links for breakfast.
I dont think they have the room to move tees back too much.
They could grow the rough up ( like it was when it opened first and I lost 12 balls in one round !)but dont think they would want to do that
to protect their green fee revenue.

Deco123 is that you ?

veetwin · 14-12-2011 4:47pm

Another vote for Portmarnock..could walk to it every day:D

deko43 · 15-12-2011 8:26am

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Deco123 is that you ?

No

poteen · 15-12-2011 12:20pm

I have been told by a pretty solid source that the 2012 course will be either Carton House or Kileen Castle but that Kileen Castle is the more likely going to be the host after the Solheim cup success. Dont shoot the messsenger here. I personally think that with its new May slot that it needs to be a links course to attract a quality field.

jtown · 15-12-2011 12:21pm

poteen wrote: »

I have been told by a pretty solid source that the 2012 course will be either Carton House or Kileen Castle but that Kileen Castle is the more likely going to be the host after the Solheim cup success. Dont shoot the messsenger here. I personally think that with its new May slot that it needs to be a links course to attract a quality field.

Any word on a sponsor? any word on why Killarney wont be holding it?

AGC · 15-12-2011 12:34pm

Please not Carton. It was a disaster the coupl eof times it was there.

Carton is holding the European Amatuer so leave it with that and not the Open

Benicetomonty · 15-12-2011 12:40pm

poteen wrote: »

I have been told by a pretty solid source that the 2012 course will be either Carton House or Kileen Castle but that Kileen Castle is the more likely going to be the host after the Solheim cup success. Dont shoot the messsenger here. I personally think that with its new May slot that it needs to be a links course to attract a quality field.

Tournament is on in June, not May. Dont think Carton would be anxious to hold in May ever again after 05 and 06!

dvemail · 15-12-2011 2:17pm

jtown wrote: »

Any word on a sponsor? any word on why Killarney wont be holding it?

From what i've heard it's the new possible sponsor that wants it to be closer to the capital or else it's just the Euro thinking it will have a better chance to attract a new sponsor if it's nearer Dublin, not sure which one is true if any.

Apparently though there was a glitch in the European Tour website that released the schedule for next year by accident and it had the Irish Open Sponsored by Discover Ireland.
Hopefully though it will find a new sponsor quick as it won't be able to keep that new date without a good sponsor and a healthy prize fund.

poteen · 15-12-2011 2:19pm

Benicetomonty wrote: »

Tournament is on in June, not May. Dont think Carton would be anxious to hold in May ever again after 05 and 06!

Yep, I stand directed on the dates but not the venues. These are the 2 courses that I heard the tour are looking at and as I said , from what i hear Kileen is the more likely / preferred. That said , things have changed since 05 / 06 and maybe Carton house would be damn glad of the exposure and advertisment again.
Venue aint the main factor that makes players come . It could be on a 9 hole course and if the prize fund was good , they players would turn up. They need to up the money in 2012 to get a field.

acejeff · 15-12-2011 5:00pm

tamloc wrote: »

I know it's not a links course but I would love to see palmerstown house host the Irish open. Best parkland course in the east. Imo.

This place is on the brink of ****ting down. THey recently had their gas turned off for not paying their gas bill!! I know coz I was there and the kitchen was only serving limited food as they said the gas "wasn't working". A friend of mine who works for their utility supplier told me they were cut off.

jtown · 15-12-2011 5:01pm

acejeff wrote: »

This place is on the brink of ****ting down. THey recently had their gas turned off for not paying their gas bill!! I know coz I was there and the kitchen was only serving limited food as they said the gas "wasn't working". A friend of mine who works for their utility supplier told me they were cut off.

Your friend shouldnt be telling you they got cut off cause of that!!!

Tin_Cup · 15-12-2011 5:17pm

Would be a first time in Ireland (I think) for the same course to hold the ladies Irish open and Irish open in the same year? If Killeen got it

golf_caddy · 17-12-2011 3:13pm

Will be played 3 weeks before the British would be nice to see it on a links... id have a sneaky one on the Royaler pitching for it

blue note · 17-12-2011 5:07pm

What happened in carton house?

Jul3s · 17-12-2011 6:36pm

Has there only been 12 Irish opens so far in the history of Irish golf?, strange!, one would have imagined there was more then just 12!.

ShriekingSheet · 18-12-2011 1:42pm

According to Golf Central Daily, Irish Golf Desk etc on Twitter, it's going to Carton House.

f22 · 18-12-2011 2:42pm

Surely a links course with proper infrastructure makes most sense. Most European Tour events are played on parkland, proper placement on the calendar on a links could revive proper interest in the event again.

From the runmour mill it seems to be between Carton, Killeen Castle and Portmarnock. Of all of them Portmarnock would be my choice!

gorfield · 19-12-2011 3:32pm

f22 wrote: »

Surely a links course with proper infrastructure makes most sense. Most European Tour events are played on parkland, proper placement on the calendar on a links could revive proper interest in the event again.

From the runmour mill it seems to be between Carton, Killeen Castle and Portmarnock. Of all of them Portmarnock would be my choice!

You will be happy to hear this weeks announcement so....;) Portmarnock looks like a certainty to host this years irish open, with Portrush taking over in 2013.

curly from cork · 19-12-2011 7:08pm

gorfield wrote: »

You will be happy to hear this weeks announcement so....;) Portmarnock looks like a certainty to host this years irish open, with Portrush taking over in 2013.

Will they allow female spectators ?

dvemail · 19-12-2011 7:24pm

gorfield wrote: »

You will be happy to hear this weeks announcement so....;) Portmarnock looks like a certainty to host this years irish open, with Portrush taking over in 2013.

Where did you hear this? Hope its true.

FixdePitchmark · 19-12-2011 10:56pm

gorfield wrote: »

You will be happy to hear this weeks announcement so....;) Portmarnock looks like a certainty to host this years irish open, with Portrush taking over in 2013.

Great news, will be walking and having a few pints at it. (From Dart).

Don't know if they will let me in

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I think if the weather is good the winning score will be about -20. But looking forward to it - ye ha. Back in Dublin.

Here is a nice tip, get on early, won't be a great field - Lowry each way.

f22 · 20-12-2011 8:16am

Indo pointing to Killeen Castle, RTE saying Carton to be announced today, rumblings from inside Portmarnock.

Wish they'd just announce the blasted thing! Might just call Paddy Power, they know everything before anyone else does!

Adiaga 2 · 20-12-2011 8:16am

I too hope it's Portmarnock but all the media reports seem to be saying Carton House is the likely venue. Announcement due today.

aster99 · 20-12-2011 8:20am

Radio this morning seem certain it's carton

link_2007 · 20-12-2011 8:37am

aster99 wrote: »

Radio this morning seem certain it's carton

So do RTE http://www.rte.ie/sport/golf/2011/1220/ireland.html

conno16 · 20-12-2011 9:59am

carton is a suitable venue for this.
all they need now is a sponsor

jtown · 20-12-2011 10:02am

Been from Kerry sad for Killarney, They put on a great show the last 2 years.. GMAC comments were very disappointing too

golfnut1 · 20-12-2011 10:10am

jtown wrote: »

Been from Kerry sad for Killarney, They put on a great show the last 2 years.. GMAC comments were very disappointing too

What did he say?

deko43 · 20-12-2011 10:15am

conno16 wrote: »

carton is a suitable venue for this.
all they need now is a sponsor

Crap decision. Last two opens at Carton were poorly attended
and lacked atmosphere. I wont be buying tickets.

jtown · 20-12-2011 10:46am

golfnut1 wrote: »

What did he say?

"I enjoyed Killarney as a venue," he went on. "The crowds were quite good but I didn't enjoy it as a golf course. It wasn't my favourite. It was a fun venue but I'd love to see it go back to the Dublin area."

Irish Open 12 Dublin?

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