nightforce scopes

johnnymolloy

just wondering wats people opinions on them like quality and so on

and im also wondering wats the goin rate on a second hand benchrest model

cheers

Tac

Quality is second to none. a serious piece of equipment. very precise....anyone who has one "wants" to have one. used by defence forces in the US...maybe a tad too precise for everyday hunting....but a fab piece of equipment to have in your armoury all the same.. :-)

Tackleberrywho

johnnymolloy wrote: »

just wondering wats people opinions on them like quality and so on

and im also wondering wats the goin rate on a second hand benchrest model

cheers

Not too many benchrest models floating round, the NXS is more common in any dealers I have been in.

I have 2 nightforce scopes since 2006 and am very impressed with them.
Tough as nails, very positive click adjustment, Excellant clarity, brilliant reticle choices available.
Loads of windage and elevation adjustment for long range stuff and even if you did, reticles are good for aiming off as they are MOA.

td5

Top piece of kit. I have 3 [1] with mildot [2] with np2dd reticles. All 3 are NXS models

Glensman

The NXS are making anywhere from 900-1000 pounds on the english forums.
Bound to be good value at that.

johnnymolloy

cheers for the reply lads looks like ill be doin a good bit of searching and saving to get one

Cass

I've had a few NF over the years and currently have 3 of them. 2 NXS models, and a BR model.

Pro

• 1/8" click value giving more precise adjustments.
• Parallex is on the from housing, and is not as fussy as the NXS.
• Its lighter than the NXS.
• Its cheaper too, with new models running about €1,500 max. Secondhand between €800 - €1,000 depending on condition.
• One less lense meaning slighter better clarity than the NXS. Not noticeable really.

Con

• Only available in 8-32 and 12-42. No other mags.
• Limited amount of reticle choices. There are not as many options compared to the NXS models.
• 6 minutes per complete turn of the turrets. Confusing when you are used to 10 on most scopes including the NXS.

I use my BR on my FTR rig. For targets its perfect. For hunting not so much. Adjustments are overly fine, heavy scope for hunting (2lb), and the mag on it is excessive for hunting as any time i use the NXS model i have its always on 12 power (its a 12-42).

zulu_dawn

johnny,

night force scope for sale here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056360216

if your interested.

johnnymolloy

zulu_dawn wrote: »

johnny,

night force scope for sale here - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056360216

if your interested.

cheers zulu ive seen it for sale alright its not something i can buy anytime soon just trying to get peoples opinion on them if its still around when i get the money together ill pm you

hunter91

How would people rate the nightforce scopes for hunting? like low light performance? weight?, etc.

tomcat220t

hunter91 wrote: »

How would people rate the nightforce scopes for hunting? like low light performance? weight?, etc.

Not great ,not enough field of view and too high mag at its lowest setting ,imo.Day time shooting is fine .

Cass

tomcat220t wrote: »

Not great ,not enough field of view and too high mag at its lowest setting ,imo. .

Not for all of them.

To often you think of the 8-32 or 12-42 forgetting the 5.5-22 or the 3-15, etc.

Tackleberrywho

This is what I use Stalking, 5.5-22x56 NXS NP-R2 Reticle.

Tackleberrywho

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

This is what I use Stalking, 5.5-22x56 NXS NP-R2 Reticle.

Second time lucky uploading pics.

hunter91

Sweet setup tac, How do you find the nightforce for low-light situations, anti-fog, shockproofing and that?

Glensman

hunter91 wrote: »

Sweet setup tac, How do you find the nightforce for low-light situations, anti-fog, shockproofing and that?

Before Tack tells you it's un-faultable, I can tell you that it's:

low-light situations Good, anti-fog BAD, shockproofing Good

Isn't that right Tack :P

Tackleberrywho

Glensman wrote: »

Before Tack tells you it's un-faultable, I can tell you that it's:

low-light situations Good, anti-fog BAD, shockproofing Good

Isn't that right Tack :P

Well all scopes will be hard to look through when covered in water Glensman
You forgot to mention you could still see through my scope in driving rain half an hour longer than your loo-pold.

Fog and Rain are two different animals.

Glensman

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Well all scopes will be hard to look through when covered in water Glensman
You forgot to mention you could still see through my scope in driving rain half an hour longer than your loo-pold.

Fog and Rain are two different animals.

I gave you a good for low-light didn't I! :pac:

I have since sold the Leupold and am currently looking for a rural post-office to rob so I can buy a Swarovski to replace it!

Tackleberrywho

Glensman wrote: »

I gave you a good for low-light didn't I! :pac:

I have since sold the Leupold and am currently looking for a rural post-office to rob so I can buy a Swarovski to replace it!

I had a Swaro, I sold it after 2 years and bought a NF, and never looked back pardon the pun.

And the 8-32 is great for bunnies in the summer

Glensman

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I had a Swaro, I sold it after 2 years and bought a NF, and never looked back pardon the pun.

And the 8-32 is great for bunnies in the summer

The NF is a lot more reasonable when it comes to price.
But I think I will try a Swaro to see if they are as good as the hype. I want an Illuminated Ret and Target turrets, unfortunately the budget wont stretch...

landkeeper

good scopes, very heavy put one on a heavyish rifle and you'll know it's there , relatively clear in low light conditions but no-where near as clear as a s&b on the same settings and i have had both ,i love the reticles they are so precise
but fantastic target/long distance shooting scopes

De_Tomaso

I think that S&B Police Marksman, Zeiss Victory FL and Premier Light Tactical are all better value for money than Swarovski. Swarovski has good glass but it is expensive and not as robust as mentioned scopes. S&B and Premier also have FFP reticles which is a big plus for me personally. The other thing is that Swarovski are pure hunting scopes and the turrets are not the best I have seen.

NF on the other hand is good for target shooting but I would prefer other scopes for hunting. In general what I have seen they are similar to IOR. Good value for money but not really a match for S&B, Zeiss and others from the top.

4200fps

buy a Swarovski ,you will have it for life and ''you wont damage one'' and one of the worlds clearest lenses for hunting even late in the evening you will see plenty. i was going to buy a Nightforse but the Europeans make the worlds best hunting scopes and rifles.Zeiss,S&B,Kahles,Leica and Swarovski be top shelf brands for hunters. Nothing wrong with Nightforce they have excellent reviews too.Think their more for long range target shooting.

Tackleberrywho

I've compared my Nf vs a Zeiss and could see.no measureable difference in clarity
The only reason I don't get more deer is hunting time limitations, not my.scope.

It has helped my head and kneck shoot many Deer because of it's fine illum ret on all Mags.

The Target turrets are brilliant for long range Varminting too.
I'd need a Vernier to measure Second Focal plane difference.

First focal plane pisses me off with heavy ret on various mags.
I love one constant reticle size.

However, I have always said reticle choice is a very personal thing to suit the style of the individual shooter

De_Tomaso

Which Zeiss have you used for the comparison?


Reticle choice is indeed totally personal choice. I just need FFP reticle for holdover and range assessment. I also hate when reticle moves with magnification change, especially on long shots where this plays a big role if the target is small. Every hunter has its own taste and when talking about reticles there is no better or worse, it can be only different.

Tackleberrywho

De_Tomaso wrote: »

Which Zeiss have you used for the comparison?


Reticle choice is indeed totally personal choice. I just need FFP reticle for holdover and range assessment. I also hate when reticle moves with magnification change, especially on long shots where this plays a big role if the target is small. Every hunter has its own taste and when talking about reticles there is no better or worse, it can be only different.

Zeiss 6-24x56 illum.with 30mm tube.
On my friends .243.

I have also used a Zeiss 6-27x72 now that was some scope

A little big though and cheapest mounts €300 Eeeek

stick shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I've compared my Nf vs a Zeiss and could see.no measureable difference in clarity
The only reason I don't get more deer is hunting time limitations, not my.scope.

It has helped my head and kneck shoot many Deer because of it's fine illum ret on all Mags.

The Target turrets are brilliant for long range Varminting too.
I'd need a Vernier to measure Second Focal plane difference.

First focal plane pisses me off with heavy ret on various mags.
I love one constant reticle size.

However, I have always said reticle choice is a very personal thing to suit the style of the individual shooter

Not trying to be smart tac but other than mag and radical choice how is nightforce better than zeiss ,s&b and swarovski .
Nightforce have bad field of view (does not matter on target shooting ) Nightforce have bad eye relief (does not matter on target shooting ) Nightforce bad low light resolution (does not matter on target shooting )

These are in my opinion what you require from a scope when varmint shooting or stalking . Extra mag or radical choice comes second

td5

I am out lamping foxes at least 3 nights a week and cant fault my NXS Nightforce. Mine has the Np2dd reticle or sometimes called [The Dot of Death]

Tackleberrywho

td5 wrote: »

I am out lamping foxes at least 3 nights a week and cant fault my NXS Nightforce. Mine has the Np2dd reticle or sometimes called [The Dot of Death]

Well said.

stick shooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Well said.

indeed;)

zeissman

I compared a nightforce nxs 8x32x56 with a S&B 3x12x50 in low light and was amazed how much brighter the S&B was. Both scopes were set at 8 power. My mate who owned the Nightforce was so dissapointed he sold it a week later and bought a Zeiss 6x24x56.
I wouldnt mind a nightforce for target work but not for hunting.

declan1980

I dunno about nightforce having a bad field of view, I've compared my nightforce to various other scopes, s&b 8x56 Hungarian, swarovski 4-12x50 habicht (not sure if I spelled that right), zeiss duralyte 3-12x50, zeiss diavari 6-24x56, and s&b pm2(not sure of magnification on that).
While the swarovski was the only one the really had a noticable difference in clarity, I found no real difference in field of view with any of the rest, or low light performance at the same magnification. The s&b 8x56 Hungarian actually had a worse field of view, and I don't know if it was the particular reticule on that scope, but I felt that it was very heavy, and that it would have covered too much of the target at 200 yards to be really sure where I was placing the shot.
That my two cents anyway.

Glensman

declan1980 wrote: »

I dunno about nightforce having a bad field of view, I've compared my nightforce to various other scopes, s&b 8x56 Hungarian, swarovski 4-12x50 habicht (not sure if I spelled that right), zeiss duralyte 3-12x50, zeiss diavari 6-24x56, and s&b pm2(not sure of magnification on that).
While the swarovski was the only one the really had a noticable difference in clarity, I found no real difference in field of view with any of the rest, or low light performance at the same magnification. The s&b 8x56 Hungarian actually had a worse field of view, and I don't know if it was the particular reticule on that scope, but I felt that it was very heavy, and that it would have covered too much of the target at 200 yards to be really sure where I was placing the shot.
That my two cents anyway.

How did you like the Zeiss 6-24x56?

Vegeta

declan1980 wrote: »

I dunno about nightforce having a bad field of view, I've compared my nightforce to various other scopes, s&b 8x56 Hungarian, swarovski 4-12x50 habicht (not sure if I spelled that right), zeiss duralyte 3-12x50, zeiss diavari 6-24x56, and s&b pm2(not sure of magnification on that).
While the swarovski was the only one the really had a noticable difference in clarity, I found no real difference in field of view with any of the rest, or low light performance at the same magnification. The s&b 8x56 Hungarian actually had a worse field of view, and I don't know if it was the particular reticule on that scope, but I felt that it was very heavy, and that it would have covered too much of the target at 200 yards to be really sure where I was placing the shot.
That my two cents anyway.

What Nightforce do you have Declan?

The S&B 8x56 has around 15 foot in terms field of view at 100 yards. The NXS 8-32 x 56 has 12 feet I think at 8x magnification.

The lower magnification Nightforce scopes would have more than that clearly but on a like for like 8x magnification comparison the S&B has a better field of view.

declan1980

Glensman wrote: »

How did you like the Zeiss 6-24x56?

If I was to change scopes in the morning, I would go for that one. I liked the reticule, and the fact that the illumination can be adjusted externally. The turrets were 0.5cm at 100m giving a higher degree of precision when adjusting. The fact that the direction of the adjustments were opposite to my NF would take a bit of getting used to, but after a few times it would become natural. The only things I didn't like about it was that the diopter adjustment isn't lockable like on the NF, and the magnification adjustment is seperate to the eyepiece, on the NF the eyepiece turns with the magnification ring, so you can just grab it and turn

declan1980

Vegeta wrote: »

What Nightforce do you have Declan?

The S&B 8x56 has around 15 foot in terms field of view at 100 yards. The NXS 8-32 x 56 has 12 feet I think at 8x magnification.

The lower magnification Nightforce scopes would have more than that clearly but on a like for like 8x magnification comparison the S&B has a better field of view.

I have the 8-32x56 nxs, and I compared the two scopes side by side, going from one to the other and giving about 30 seconds looking through each one, and I still thought the nxs had a better field of view than the 8x56 s&b

Vegeta

What I'm saying is that field of view is not subjective. It's a measurable spec that the scope makers list about their products.

http://www.schmidtbender.com/scopes_fixed.shtml

8x56 has 15ft at 100 yards

http://nightforceoptics.com/SCOPES_OVERVIEW/8-32x56___12-42x56/8-32x56_-_12-42x56.html

12.1ft at 8x magnification

Just pointing out the manufacturers specs, I've never done a side by side on those 2 scopes myself.

declan1980

Vegeta wrote: »

What I'm saying is that field of view is not subjective. It's a measurable spec that the scope makers list about their products.

http://www.schmidtbender.com/scopes_fixed.shtml

8x56 has 15ft at 100 yards

http://nightforceoptics.com/SCOPES_OVERVIEW/8-32x56___12-42x56/8-32x56_-_12-42x56.html

12.1ft at 8x magnification

Just pointing out the manufacturers specs, I've never done a side by side on those 2 scopes myself.

I understand what you're saying, and appreciate the manufacturers spec, but it doesn't explain why I saw more through the nxs when comparing it side by side to the s&b. Now maybe the fact that it was the Hungarian model has something to do with it, but I can only go on my own experience of the two

Glensman

declan1980 wrote: »

I understand what you're saying, and appreciate the manufacturers spec, but it doesn't explain why I saw more through the nxs when comparing it side by side to the s&b. Now maybe the fact that it was the Hungarian model has something to do with it, but I can only go on my own experience of the two

No the Hungarians are identical, just assembled in a cheaper place...

stick shooter

declan1980 wrote: »

I understand what you're saying, and appreciate the manufacturers spec, but it doesn't explain why I saw more through the nxs when comparing it side by side to the s&b. Now maybe the fact that it was the Hungarian model has something to do with it, but I can only go on my own experience of the two

Was there dust on the lens of the S&B I have compared the same and found clarity to be the opposite .

gray24b

HI
I have two NXS models I cannot fault them, IMO top quality glass

ATB

gray24b

4200fps

Example of Swarovski scope quality. Mine got knocked at least 3 times and never lost zero. You's might enjoy these videos http://youtu.be/xMgycEdAfYE and http://youtu.be/kCIyqJmnYaE . See what ye lads think anyways Their indestructible IMO but they are pricey

Glensman

4200fps wrote: »

Example of Swarovski scope quality. Mine got knocked at least 3 times and never lost zero. You's might enjoy these videos http://youtu.be/xMgycEdAfYE and http://youtu.be/kCIyqJmnYaE . See what ye lads think anyways Their indestructible IMO but they are pricey

Class.

Constab2

The video demos are amazing , just bought a Swarovski Rifle Scope Z5 5-25x52 P BT Plex to put on the 308,very glad of my decision now;

johngalway

Am about 15 stone weight, have a 28 amp battery, God knows how many stone of clothes and gear I was walking down a muddy slope out lamping, two legs went from right out under me at once. Ouch. Landed on the Nightforce scope :eek: (And I DO mean ON it).

Tried it on paper the next decent day, it never budged from zero

Cupid__Stunt

Was out with a guy the last 2 days on the hill with one. Fogged up yesterday morning in the freezing conditions. This evening had hinds out at 150 yards with enough light left to shoot them imo but the light gathering of the scope was not up to the task. Poor field of view too. Great target/varmint scope, poor hunting scope.

4200fps

Constab2 wrote: »

The video demos are amazing , just bought a Swarovski Rifle Scope Z5 5-25x52 P BT Plex to put on the 308,very glad of my decision now;

Their the business,Swarovski are dedicated to hunting,and does not produce scopes for tactical or military applications. I'm thinking of buying a Swarovski Z6i with the ballistic turrets.Its by far the best turrets ive ever seen. There's no guessing or all the clicking. No other scope manufacturer has this as far as im aware. It be impossible to miss anything imo but its 2500euro

http://youtu.be/OKegyDxukHc

Cupid__Stunt

4200fps wrote: »

Their the business,Swarovski are dedicated to hunting,and does not produce scopes for tactical or military applications. I'm thinking of buying a Swarovski Z6i with the ballistic turrets.Its by far the best turrets ive ever seen. There's no guessing or all the clicking. No other scope manufacturer has this as far as im aware. It be impossible to miss anything imo but its 2500euro

http://youtu.be/OKegyDxukHc

I have one of them and its fantastic. You wont regret it. I wouldnt go for illumination though. Not a fan of it at all.

4200fps

Cupid__Stunt wrote: »

I have one of them and its fantastic. You wont regret it. I wouldnt go for illumination though. Not a fan of it at all.

To get the turrets it an extra £100 i think. Do you use the turrets much? How you find them?

Constab2

Anyone know where to get the Detachable rail & mounts in the demo video just got my Z5 would really like that mount

De_Tomaso

4200fps wrote: »

Their the business,Swarovski are dedicated to hunting,and does not produce scopes for tactical or military applications. I'm thinking of buying a Swarovski Z6i with the ballistic turrets.Its by far the best turrets ive ever seen. There's no guessing or all the clicking. No other scope manufacturer has this as far as im aware. It be impossible to miss anything imo but its 2500euro

http://youtu.be/OKegyDxukHc

Ballistic turrets are not Swarovski invention but Kahles. Kahles was the first to introduce Multi-zero system and when Swarovski took over Kahels they got also this patent.

For me Swarovski has great scopes for hunters and for hunters only. And they are worth the price.