livestock transport

flatout11 · 09-12-2011 3:56pm #1

what do you currently need in terms of license and other certification to haul livestock (not professionally) or is it an issue?

redzerologhlen · 09-12-2011 7:52pm

I think I read somewhere a few weeks ago that farmers dont need a hauliers licence to haul livestock but I could be wrong.

flatout11 · 10-12-2011 1:04pm

redzerologhlen wrote: »

I think I read somewhere a few weeks ago that farmers dont need a hauliers licence to haul livestock but I could be wrong.

i was of the same opinion but a friend of mine made out there were lads being pulled for it and that despite having a full driving licence we all only had a provisional for a trailer!

redzerologhlen · 10-12-2011 4:31pm

I remember where I read it now. It was a RSA book at the DOE center about 2 weeks ago when I was testing the jeep. If you have the trailer licence you should be fine for hauling cattle.

flatout11 · 10-12-2011 5:24pm

must look it up thanks

rancher · 12-12-2011 6:55pm

flatout11 wrote: »

must look it up thanks

Are FBD the only company that insures you to drive with a trailer if you don't have a trailer license. I know you can pull a trailer under 750 kg with a car license but that's not much use to a farmer

westlander · 14-12-2011 5:16pm

With all these new rules coming in does anyone ever think about selling their jeep trailer and buying a tractor drawn livestock trailer instead?

There are some very low tractor drawn trailers which can be bought so they are not too hard to load.

Not a jeep owner myself but im sure they are not easy on fuel with a trailer behind.

blue5000 · 14-12-2011 8:57pm

westlander wrote: »

With all these new rules coming in does anyone ever think about selling their jeep trailer and buying a tractor drawn livestock trailer instead?

There are some very low tractor drawn trailers which can be bought so they are not too hard to load.

Not a jeep owner myself but im sure they are not easy on fuel with a trailer behind.

I reckon a 3L jeep does about 20 mpg with a load and a tractor does about 6-8 mpg whether the trailer is empty or full. Ok somebody with a fendt might be getting more, but there is a lot more jeeps than fendts on farms.

Muckit · 15-12-2011 11:38am

rancher wrote: »

Are FBD the only company that insures you to drive with a trailer if you don't have a trailer license.

I don't think there is any insurance company that will insure you to drive illegally. Perhaps I'm wrong

Muckit · 15-12-2011 11:45am

blue5000 wrote: »

Ok somebody with a fendt might be getting more, but there is a lot more jeeps than fendts on farms.

John Deere are claiming now in some of their tractor ads that the claims by fendt are based on tractors running ag blu as opposed to straight diesel and that their new models are have better fuel economy!

lar203 · 15-12-2011 11:50am

the trailer has to be built for the transport of animals ,you do not need to notify the department if your not traveling over 65km .

reilig · 15-12-2011 12:00pm

Muckit wrote: »

I don't think there is any insurance company that will insure you to drive illegally. Perhaps I'm wrong

+1

Even if you only have a provisional EB you will be covered

flatout11 · 15-12-2011 12:49pm

lar203 wrote: »

the trailer has to be built for the transport of animals ,you do not need to notify the department if your not traveling over 65km .

and if your travelling over 65km?

pgjk · 15-12-2011 2:24pm

See the following link for full rules regarding livestock transport:

http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/animaltransport/

rancher · 15-12-2011 2:26pm

reilig wrote: »

+1

Even if you only have a provisional EB you will be covered

Surely to be legal, you'd have to have a qualified driver with you. Nearly sure at a recent presentation by FBD, they said they were covering unqualified farmer drivers with trailers third party

reilig · 15-12-2011 2:41pm

rancher wrote: »

Surely to be legal, you'd have to have a qualified driver with you. Nearly sure at a recent presentation by FBD, they said they were covering unqualified farmer drivers with trailers third party

No, once you have a licence to drive the vehicle (EB licence in this case), your insurance company will cover you. They won't ask you if you had a qualified driver with you or not in the event of a claim. It doesn't mean that the guards can't stop you and fine you for not having a qualified driver with you. Sure even 17 year old kids with a provisional licence are covered by their insurance whether they have a qualified driver with them or not.

I seriously doubt if FBD would cover someone who didn't have a proper licence. I'll ask for you though.

sidewaysdrivin · 13-01-2012 12:12am

blue5000 wrote: »

I reckon a 3L jeep does about 20 mpg with a load and a tractor does about 6-8 mpg whether the trailer is empty or full. Ok somebody with a fendt might be getting more, but there is a lot more jeeps than fendts on farms.

fendt 930 we have burns 17L to go 65 miles (aka17.24 mpg) with a 7 tonne lowloader unladen behind it, tried tested & proven on the varioterminal thanks to TMS cutting the rev's down, ours is a 2005 Man engined one, & the newer ones are supposed to be a lot more efficient, theres an adblue 936 just after arriving lastweek so i must try that out over the next while.... but if these monsterous tractors are doing that sort of mpg i dont see why a smaller tractor couldnt do significantly better, i can also see the 65k box in the new 936 also helping significantly

blue5000 · 13-01-2012 3:06pm

What's it like with a load on?

sidewaysdrivin · 13-01-2012 4:11pm

blue5000 wrote: »

What's it like with a load on?

(i presume you're asking about a full load basically a 25 tonne machine above on the lowloader)....a sow, an absolute pig altogether, but way lighter than another tractor without tms, especially sisu engines they can be too thirsty, the beauty of the vario tms is when it doesnt need the revs or the power it cuts back, works brilliantly well hurtling along flat straches its not full of the pipe

i cant see how a tidy little fendt 714 pulling a few cattle couldnt embarrass a jeep & put them to shame altogether, you're talking about half the weight of a tractor but still 140hp which is ample, they're supposed to be as light as anything, and if its bigger brother is anyting to go by i'd say its a brilliant little thing

lalababa · 04-09-2019 1:05pm

rancher wrote: »

flatout11 wrote: »

must look it up thanks

Are FBD the only company that insures you to drive with a trailer if you don't have a trailer license. I know you can pull a trailer under 750 kg with a car license but that's not much use to a farmer

I thought you could pull a trailer(+load) anything that's under the max weight pull limit of the car/Jeep that's written on the side of door?

lalababa · 04-09-2019 1:15pm

Ok, from the interweb....with a B licence you can tow a trailer that weights 750kg(That's the trailer) if the trailer is over 750kg then you can still tow it IF the sum of the vehicle, trailer and load does not exceed 3500kg. And if I remember correctly the trailer + the load cannot exceed the maximum towing weight?? of the vehicle. Or is it OR /and the weight of the vehicle??

lalababa · 04-09-2019 1:25pm

For example, a Ford Mondeo is around 1500kg depending on model. It has a max towing weight of around the same 1600kg. AFAIK you can tow up to 1600kg (trailer +load). But if I remember correctly you actually might have to stay under 1500kg as this is the weight of the vehicle.
All that said, say your trailer is 800kg you could have an animal of 700kg in the trailer and so forth.

Base price · 04-09-2019 4:35pm

Dumitru Ivanov wrote: »

How long does it take to get your license for livestock transportation?

The following DAFM link gives details of the legislation the covers the transport of live animals within the EU but it doesn't cover what driving licenses are required for vehicles (https://www.ndls.ie/licence-categories.html)
https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/animaltransport/

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