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  • 07-12-2011 10:32am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    UK court frees drunken attackers of white girl Rhea Page, because they are Muslims
    Updated: 07 Dec 2011

    A gang of Muslim women who attacked a passer-by in a city centre walked free from court after a judge heard they were ‘not used to being drunk’ because of their religion.

    The group – three sisters and a cousin – allegedly screamed ‘kill the white slag’ as they set upon Rhea Page as she waited for a taxi with her boyfriend.

    Miss Page, 22, was left with a bald patch where her hair was pulled out in the attack and was left ‘black and blue’ after suffering a flurry of kicks to the head, back, arms and legs while motionless on the pavement.

    Ambaro Maxamed, 24, students Ayan Maxamed, 28, and Hibo Maxamed, 24, and their 28-year-old cousin Ifrah Nur each admitted actual bodily harm, which carries a maximum sentence of five years’ imprisonment.

    But Judge Robert Brown gave them suspended jail terms after hearing mitigation that as Muslims, the women were not used to being drunk. The Koran prohibits Muslims from consuming alcohol, although Islamic teachings permit its use for medicinal purposes.

    After the sentencing, Ambaro Maxamed wrote on her Twitter account: ‘Happy happy happy!’, ‘I’m so going out’, and ‘Today has been such a great day’.

    Yesterday Miss Page, a care worker, called the sentence ‘disgusting’ and said the gang deserved ‘immediate custody’.

    'It’s no punishment at all,’ she said. ‘And for them to say they did it because they were not used to alcohol is no excuse. If they were not supposed to be drinking then they shouldn’t have been out in bars at that time of night.

    'Even after the police came and they all ran away, one of them came running back to kick me in the head one last time.

    'I honestly think they attacked me just because I am white. I can’t think of any other reason.’

    Miss Page was treated for bruises and grazes after the attack in June last year as she walked to a taxi rank with boyfriend Lewis Moore, 23, in Leicester city centre.

    At the time she worked caring for people with autism and learning difficulties but gave up the job after repeated absences because of stress and flashbacks.

    She is still having counselling and suffers panic attacks.

    She said: ‘We were just minding our own business but they kept shouting “white bitch” and “white slag” at me. When I turned around one of them grabbed my hair then threw me on the ground.

    'They were taking turns to kick me over and over. I thought they were going to kill me.’

    None of the defendants was charged with racial aggravation. Nur claimed Mr Moore, a fence builder, had been racially abusive, but this was not accepted by the prosecution.

    Gary Short, mitigating for Ambaro Maxamed, said the attack was down to alcohol. He said: ‘Although Miss Page’s partner used violence, it doesn’t justify their behaviour.

    'They’re Somalian Muslims and alcohol or drugs isn’t something they’re used to.’

    The four women, who all live in Leicester, were each sentenced to six-month jail terms, suspended for 12 months, at Leicester Crown Court last month.

    Hibo Maxamed also received a four-month curfew between 9pm and 6am, while the others were ordered to carry out 150 hours of unpaid work.

    Judge Brown said that ‘those who knock someone to the floor and kick them in the head can expect to go inside’.

    But he said he accepted the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend, and handed the defendants a suspended sentence.

    Speaking at her home, Hibo Maxamed said: ‘I’m not proud of it, it’s not something I want to talk about. I just want to get on with my life.’
    pics can be found here http://www.whatsonsanya.com/news-19173-uk-court-frees-drunken-attackers-of-white-girl-rhea-page-because-they-are-muslims.html

    why the f*ck didn't the boyfriend do something? call me whatever but if a gang of girls starting doing anything like this to my girlfriend i would go (i think the technical term is) ape**** and ensure that they came out worse.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kingsley Wrong Smallpox


    danniemcq wrote: »
    why the f*ck didn't the boyfriend do something?

    None of the defendants was charged with racial aggravation. Nur claimed Mr Moore, a fence builder, had been racially abusive, but this was not accepted by the prosecution.

    Gary Short, mitigating for Ambaro Maxamed, said the attack was down to alcohol. He said: ‘Although Miss Page’s partner used violence, it doesn’t justify their behaviour.

    But he said he accepted the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend, and handed the defendants a suspended sentence.


    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    danniemcq wrote: »
    pics can be found here http://www.whatsonsanya.com/news-19173-uk-court-frees-drunken-attackers-of-white-girl-rhea-page-because-they-are-muslims.html

    why the f*ck didn't the boyfriend do something? call me whatever but if a gang of girls starting doing anything like this to my girlfriend i would go (i think the technical term is) ape**** and ensure that they came out worse.

    Apart from using unreasonable force?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    It's not racist if it's 'white' people. True Story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    danniemcq wrote: »
    why the f*ck didn't the boyfriend do something?

    What am I missing here. Per your own quoted article...
    Although Miss Page’s partner used violence....
    the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend

    He did go apeshít which may have contributed to suspending their sentence as THEY said they were victimised. They should have been jailed as I'm sure this wasn;t their first outing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    I think the court might have been afraid that if they had convicted the Muslim girls of a hate crime and sent them to prison there'd be more riots.

    Sad day for justice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    danniemcq wrote: »
    pics can be found here http://www.whatsonsanya.com/news-19173-uk-court-frees-drunken-attackers-of-white-girl-rhea-page-because-they-are-muslims.html

    why the f*ck didn't the boyfriend do something? call me whatever but if a gang of girls starting doing anything like this to my girlfriend i would go (i think the technical term is) ape**** and ensure that they came out worse.

    The headline and the body of the article bear little resemblance to each other.

    Quelle surprise!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    But Judge Robert Brown gave them suspended jail terms after hearing mitigation that as Muslims, the women were not used to being drunk. The Koran prohibits Muslims from consuming alcohol, although Islamic teachings permit its use for medicinal purposes.

    I'm not used to attempted murder. Can I have a suspended sentence if I try that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    bluewolf wrote: »
    None of the defendants was charged with racial aggravation. Nur claimed Mr Moore, a fence builder, had been racially abusive, but this was not accepted by the prosecution.

    Gary Short, mitigating for Ambaro Maxamed, said the attack was down to alcohol. He said: ‘Although Miss Page’s partner used violence, it doesn’t justify their behaviour.

    But he said he accepted the women may have felt they were the victims of unreasonable force from Mr Moore as he tried to defend his girlfriend, and handed the defendants a suspended sentence.


    :confused:

    so he did try and defend her but she still got that bad a kicking? balls to that. either he was afraid of being accused of something or he was useless.

    like i said in my original post there would have been a ****storm if something like that happened my girlfriend.

    it just boggles my mind how this happened this way


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kingsley Wrong Smallpox


    well arent you a big internet warrior man


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Plazaman wrote: »
    What am I missing here. Per your own quoted article...





    He did go apeshít which may have contributed to suspending their sentence as THEY said they were victimised. They should have been jailed as I'm sure this wasn;t their first outing.

    Was that part not refering to him giving them racist abuse?

    and unreasonable force would surly mean they they wouldn't have been able to run away and then run back and give her another kick?

    IMHO take the racial side out of this and the story, sentance and outcome would have been very very different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭Junco Partner


    foxyboxer wrote: »
    It's not racist if it's 'white' people. True Story.

    and that's the sad reality of political correctness. this reverse racism that lets the very very small minority of non whites get away with stuff like this as the establishment are afraid to offend the minority group as a whole. now i've never seen this come to violence but i've seen minorities abusing whites verbally in my cousins town in england, while people just stood there afraid to say anything for fear of being accused of racism.

    Now don't get me wrong I ain't racist, i'm a very left wing anti racist actually, this isn't me badmouthing minorities , I hate this double-standard that the establishment , bleeding heart liberals and the media have created.racism in all forms is disgusting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    There's video here:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070562/Muslim-girl-gang-kicked-Rhea-Page-head-yelling-kill-white-slag-FREED.html

    I watched it wondering what the boyfriend did. I don't know what went on before the incident.

    But I would say he gave a fairly decent show of himself against what can only be described as a bunch of savage, witches. He tried to block them off, fend them off and eventually was full out punching. But can you imagine the scrawwwwling you'd get from those wans. They just kept getting back up and coming at them.

    An attack like that deserves jailtime....end of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    But I would say he gave a fairly decent show of himself against what can only be described as a bunch of savage, witches. He tried to block them off, fend them off and eventually was full out punching. But can you imagine the scrawwwwling you'd get from those wans. They just kept getting back up and coming at them.

    a kick in the *unt would put them down in much the same way a kick to the balls will destroy any man


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Remember lads, you must never, ever hit a woman.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    I don't want to live in this world anymore.

    That article has racism written all over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    ****** ***** *****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Remember lads, you must never, ever hit a woman.

    remember lads a woman will never act that way, these attackers are not women they are like animals so hit away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    The boyfriend falling all over the place made me laugh though. Pillow fists. Id bust up 4 women no bother;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    f0ggy92 wrote: »
    bleeding heart liberals

    "Bleeding Heart Liberals" don't exist. They're a myth, a fantasy, the personification of an establishment afraid of lawsuits from over eager lawyers who are all-too-willing to play the race-card and exacerbated by the conservative far-right who use it as an umbrella term to label anyone who disagrees with them.

    The term is thrown around all too often here on Boards as a way for people to contrast themselves with a non-existent group to make their position seem more moderate or as a way to criticize someone's position with actually addressing it.

    It's a bull**** term.

    Just had to get that off my chest.

    OT,
    Judge should be assaulted by a group of drunken Muslims. I'm sure he won't mind, they're simply not used to being violent idiots drunk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,122 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    Seachmall wrote: »
    "Bleeding Heart Liberals" don't exist. They're a myth, a fantasy, the personification of an establishment afraid of lawsuits from over eager lawyers who are all-too-willing to play the race-card and exacerbated by the conservative far-right who use it as an umbrella term to label anyone who disagrees with them.

    The term is thrown around all too often here on Boards as a way for people to contrast themselves with a non-existent group to make their position seem more moderate or as a way to criticize someone's position with actually addressing it.

    It's a bull**** term.

    Just had to get that off my chest.

    Bloody Bleeding Heart Liberal sympathiser:p:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Remember lads, you must never, ever hit a woman.

    If they fail to act like human beings, all bets based on gender are off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Fear Uladh


    Absolute scum, they should be jailed for assault regardless of religion, gender or otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    stovelid wrote: »
    If they fail to act like human beings, all bets based on gender are off.

    Absolutely.

    Violence begets more violence and deservedly so (regardless of gender).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    dirty somalian kunts, nice to see the bf got a few good slaps into them, they deserved everything they got, kicking a defenceless person on the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    copeyhagen wrote: »
    dirty somalian kunts, nice to see the bf got a few good slaps into them, they deserved everything they got, kicking a defenceless person on the ground.



    HAHA:D niccce


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭tiernanobrien


    I would honestly knock the lot of them out one by one and head off home... thats an absolute piss take... on one hand id say fair play to your man for trying to defuse it at first but on the other hand he shouldve bashed them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    Emma West here....My Britain is fook all now!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    Remember lads, you must never, ever hit a woman.

    If a gang of Drunken Women are attacking a defenceless friend of mine, then I will hit and kick them and do whatever it takes until they stop doing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Why haven't they been deported back to Somalia?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    tbh if he had eventually dropped the savages then the judge would probably have thrown the book at him, although the footage showed that his response was proportionate and he was making every effort to try withdraw from the situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,595 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe



    Jesus! That video is absolutely enraging to watch. Fair play to the boyfriend for showing restraint like that, but he really should have gotten much more of those big heavy hitting head punches in. He looks exhausted in it though.

    I almost cheered at 45 seconds when he flings one of the bitches on her face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    Bambi wrote: »
    tbh if he had eventually dropped the savages then the judge would probably have thrown the book at him, although the footage showed that his response was proportionate and he was making every effort to try withdraw from the situation.

    like i wouldn't fear what a judge would do to me if i knock f*ck outta someone who just broke into my house i wouldn't give a f*ck what a judge sentanced me to for protecting my GF from a beating


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    copeyhagen wrote: »
    dirty somalian kunts
    What does their nationality have to do with this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    really scarey situation to be in - you wouldn't know what was going on... I personally would find it hard to hit a woman but after setting on my GF i'd be on them like bees, first thing is get her on her feet, shoes off so she can run and get her down the road then look after the smelly skanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Boyfriend looked drunk in that video, he fell over while trying to throw a punch. But it's lucky he was there because if he wasn't, who knows what would have happened?

    Also, why is one of the black girls jumping up and down when the police arrive?

    Ridiculous that they got off without jail time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,415 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    It'd be windmill time if anyone set on my girlfriend like that.

    Not hitting a girl goes out the window when people act like savages.

    On that note, I think women take privilege on this men not hitting them rule all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    biko wrote: »
    What does their nationality have to do with this?

    It was their nationality that got them away with this so i'd say everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The judge didn't say "I'll let you go because you're Somalian".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭jameshayes


    It was their nationality that got them away with this so i'd say everything.

    *cough* i'm on your side but it was their religion, not nationality that exonerated them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭Leftist


    Got off because they are somalian. I hate thick paddies, I really do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    biko wrote: »
    The judge didn't say "I'll let you go because you're Somalian".

    Not in those words anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Leftist wrote: »
    Got off because they are somalian. I hate thick paddies, I really do.

    quote from their defence apparently:

    'They’re Somalian Muslims and alcohol or drugs isn’t something they’re used to.’

    I hate thick paddies too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Not in those words anyway.

    He did not imply, suggest or subliminally indicate their nationality had anything to do with it.

    I don't know where you're getting that from.

    Religion =/= nationality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    Leftist wrote: »
    Got off because they are somalian. I hate thick paddies, I really do.

    Somalians are usually black yes?If that had of been four British White Girls the book would of been thrown at them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    I think this is actually disgusting.

    I get what the big bad men in this forum are saying but the boyfriend didnt really stand a chance with three of them now did he? And drunk people don't fell pain in the same way.

    These people were walking along the road, minding their own business when they were brutally attacked. The court ruling was simply racist. Full stop.

    Lets exchange the girl for some black lad getting the shít kicked outta him by three irish lads. Would that court ruling have gone the same way? What about four irish girls randomly attacking some muslim passing by in a burka minding her own business??

    The double standards in this country are disgusting. And whats worse is, as mentioned above, if the boyfriend had actually injured one of the attackers chances were they would have had him in court for GBH and then all of a sudden it's the story of a guy reacting over the top to a little drunken banter and getting jail time.

    I dont want to live in this world anymore....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    They got off because they were Muslims. Inferring they got off because the are from a black African country is racist imo.

    Just as racist as shouting "get the white bitch" and attacking someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    Remember lads, you must never, ever hit a woman.

    Never hit a lady. Ladies don't start fights though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,528 ✭✭✭foxyboxer


    Just watched the video.

    Thye could have just ran for it.

    Just saying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Dublinstiofán


    fedor.2. wrote: »
    The boyfriend falling all over the place made me laugh though. Pillow fists. Id bust up 4 women no bother;)

    Your right, they were all locked off their faces, anytime any of them did anything they fell over.


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