Motorist Hit Again In Budget!

The Irish Government sends out a message that Ireland supports the dirtiest of fuels by not applying carbon tax to solid fuel in the latest budget today!

Coal is significantly dirtier than kerosene!

Petrol cars are also taxed much higher than diesel and diesel fuel is the most toxic yet the lower carbon tax, motor tax and vrt on diesel promotes much more polluting vehicles in our towns and cities, how mad is that ?

I don't agree with any kind of carbon tax, nor do I agree with the increasing tax on electric bills to guarantee wealthy wind farm owners for 20 years income making wind farms 20 times more expensive than gas and making our electricity bills more expensive!

The fact carbon tax is used as an excuse for more revenue is a disgrace!

Applying Carbon tax to fuel that is already highly taxed is a disgrace, anyone commuting to work that has to drive 100 miles total a day is paying at least 4500 Euro's in fuel bills a year, excluding car repayments and maintenance making working less of an option to the dole simply because it's getting unaffordable if you have to drive long distance to work)

if they want to tax fuel they should tax it based on it's toxic emissions and not Co2, co2 won't give us cancer, and plants and crops love it! the other exhaust emissions will and are killing us. Coal emissions from power stations emit a lot more dangerous emissions into the atmosphere. Nuclear has 0 emissions and yet we continue to allow coal to be burned in power stations and homes!

I also did not see any incentives for anyone wanting to buy an electric car which would (substantially) reduce fuel bills and emissions from towns and cities!

Aka Ishur

You dont see a massive increase in fuel costs, and taxation, as an incentive to use a car that doesnt use said fuels?

firemansam4

Aka Ishur wrote: »

You dont see a massive increase in fuel costs, and taxation, as an incentive to use a car that doesnt use said fuels?

If someone is struggling day by day to get to work and cant afford a newer fuel efficient car what do they do?

maybe they live in the country where public transport or cycling to work isnt an option.

firemansam4

Can anyone explain how the new hikes in motor taxes works??
Are they just for the newer carbon based bands or will older cars be hit too?

_Kaiser_

firemansam4 wrote: »

Can anyone explain how the new hikes in motor taxes works??
Are they just for the newer carbon based bands or will older cars be hit too?

No, Pre-08 (CC-based) tax is going up as well...

http://budget.gov.ie/Budgets/2012/Documents/Taxation%20Annexes%20to%20the%20Summary%20of%202012%20Budget%20and%20Estimates%20Measures.pdf

Page 27 gives the full list..

enda_4

Why did they increase the tax to the pre 08 cars too? Still trying to prop up the car industry. Not happy

Aka Ishur

firemansam4 wrote: »

If someone is struggling day by day to get to work and cant afford a newer fuel efficient car what do they do?

maybe they live in the country where public transport or cycling to work isnt an option.

Um they dont buy a new car?

Ok being nice, I was talking about an incentive to buy an electric car, so this would be a new car and therefore not an option for someone struggling day by day.

If you are buying a ''newer fuel efficient car'', to save on the difference between this years costs in fuel, tax etc and next years, it all depends on the vehicles involved and their prices. The government has not made a 'cash in hand' incentive to change, but by creating an ongoing saving through making a change, they have created an opportunity cost of not changing. That opportunity cost is the incentive.

Aka Ishur

Aka Ishur wrote: »

You dont see a massive increase in fuel costs, and taxation, as an incentive to use a car that doesnt use said fuels?

That amounts to 43 Euro's per year, a small increase but it keeps adding to the extortionate amounts of already applied tax on cars and fuel, then maintenance and also depreciation has to be taken into account. That's a hell of a lot miles per year on any car and a hell of a lot of money out of a families income.

nobody should have to pay around 90 Euro's per tank of fuel, for a 60 litre tank it's outrageous, or around 65 Euro's to fill a small car with a 45 litre tank!

The Government do not realise that a lot of people don't just drive to the local school or shops, while essential, the costs are far less than someone commuting to work long distance.

Anyone driving from Kilkenny, Carlow, Kildare, Laois and so on to Dublin every day are paying significant costs, they are being screwed, and worst of all the new M9 motorway toll that is supposed to come in 2012

Taking the bus or train from Waterford, Kilkenny, Carlow, Kildare is fine if you work in the city and not so if your work is north or south Dublin because you got to take a bus from the country to the City, then wait for a connecting bus and is totally impractical.

Kaiser2000

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

No, Pre-08 (CC-based) tax is going up as well...

http://budget.gov.ie/Budgets/2012/Documents/Taxation%20Annexes%20to%20the%20Summary%20of%202012%20Budget%20and%20Estimates%20Measures.pdf

Page 27 gives the full list..

Thanks for that Kaiser2000, I thought they were leaving the old rates alone!

Madness, they think they can tax their way out of recession!

KIERAN1

I pay 220 for my car insurance a year. Yet my car tax is double that and no reward with paying this.
Look we live in a system where if the rich **** up there rewarded, by bailouts, commit crime, their not brought to justice. If anyone who is well less off ran into trouble with the law justice would be swift. Their is one rule for the poor and other rules for the rich until we fix this. The Fabric of Society will continue to break down.I honestly worry for us as a species .100 years out doubt we be still here if we keep pandering to the rich.

Aka Ishur

Aka Ishur wrote: »

Um they dont buy a new car?

Ok being nice, I was talking about an incentive to buy an electric car, so this would be a new car and therefore not an option for someone struggling day by day.

Yes the people who would benefit tremendously from an electric car are the ones who can't afford to buy them!

Aka Ishur wrote: »

If you are buying a ''newer fuel efficient car'', to save on the difference between this years costs in fuel, tax etc and next years, it all depends on the vehicles involved and their prices. The government has not made a 'cash in hand' incentive to change, but by creating an ongoing saving through making a change, they have created an opportunity cost of not changing. That opportunity cost is the incentive.

The whole tax applied to cars and fuel is completely wrong, they do it because they know the car is essential and it's an easy way of making money

The Nissan Leaf is around 22,000 Euro's in the U.S, in Ireland it's 30,000, Why ? because of tax!

It would cost 85 Euro's to fill up a Diesel car for around 600 ish miles, the equivalent in electric is 12 Euro's based on the current Nissan Leaf set up on night electricity, but the Government don't really want to loose the revenue of petrol or diesel cars.

You know, we used to go off for drives a few years ago, but we had to cut back a hell of a lot, we would drive to the west to the coast, spend a night or 2 in a B&B or rarely in a hotel, why does the Government take that away from people ? never mind the damage to businesses!

Why should we let them tax our way of life back to the dark ages ?

This country is gone to hell !

Aka Ishur

Deleted User wrote: »

That amounts to 43 Euro's per year, a small increase but it keeps adding to the extortionate amounts of already applied tax on cars and fuel, then maintenance and also depreciation has to be taken into account. That's a hell of a lot miles per year on any car and a hell of a lot of money out of a families income.

nobody should have to pay around 90 Euro's per tank of fuel, for a 60 litre tank it's outrageous, or around 65 Euro's to fill a small car with a 45 litre tank!

The Government do not realise that a lot of people don't just drive to the local school or shops, while essential, the costs are far less than someone commuting to work long distance.

Anyone driving from Kilkenny, Carlow, Kildare, Laois and so on to Dublin every day are paying significant costs, they are being screwed, and worst of all the new M9 motorway toll that is supposed.

Taking the bus or train from Waterford, Kilkenny, Carlow, Kildare is fine if you work in the city and not so if your work is north or south Dublin because you got to take a bus from the country to the City, then wait for a connecting bus and is totally impractical.

Abolutely agree with all of what you said.

1) All of it just reinforces the incentive to change to an electric vehicle.

2) I'm sorry but if someone buys a place in the countryside with a long commute, and didnt factor in rapidly rising travel costs they need their head examined. Travel costs have been rising steadily for the last 30 years.

firemansam4

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

No, Pre-08 (CC-based) tax is going up as well...

http://budget.gov.ie/Budgets/2012/Documents/Taxation%20Annexes%20to%20the%20Summary%20of%202012%20Budget%20and%20Estimates%20Measures.pdf

Page 27 gives the full list..

Thank you very much, that link was very helpful

Aka Ishur wrote: »

Um they dont buy a new car?

Ok being nice, I was talking about an incentive to buy an electric car, so this would be a new car and therefore not an option for someone struggling day by day.

If you are buying a ''newer fuel efficient car'', to save on the difference between this years costs in fuel, tax etc and next years, it all depends on the vehicles involved and their prices. The government has not made a 'cash in hand' incentive to change, but by creating an ongoing saving through making a change, they have created an opportunity cost of not changing. That opportunity cost is the incentive.

Ok my point was that the tax is being increased on all cars new or old and while the point you make about trying to get people to convert to more greener efficient fuels is a good point, it doesn't mean imo they should punish the hard pressed motorists out there struggling to make ends meat that cant afford to change at the moment.

Aka Ishur

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes the people who would benefit tremendously from an electric car are the ones who can't afford to buy them!

Nothing the government can do will bring a new car down that much in price. In Ireland there is already a €5000 euro government funded incentive. Dont forget that the first electric cars were so expensive to make it didnt make sense to sell them, GM just leased them out. As the technology matures it will get cheaper. the kangoo Ze is 16,500 new IIRC

firemansam4 wrote: »

Ok my point was that the tax is being increased on all cars new or old and while the point you make about trying to get people to convert to more greener efficient fuels is a good point, it doesn't mean imo they should punish the hard pressed motorists out there struggling to make ends meat that cant afford to change at the moment.

They are punishing everyone though arent they? I drive a 2 litre 00 reg alfa, I know I cant change, but I also realise fuels gonna keep rising, tax isnt gonna come down.

firemansam4

Aka Ishur wrote: »

Abolutely agree with all of what you said.

2) I'm sorry but if someone buys a place in the countryside with a long commute, and didnt factor in rapidly rising travel costs they need their head examined. Travel costs have been rising steadily for the last 30 years.

Ive heard this argument before that its peoples choice to live in the country!

well what about people who are born and rared in the country? are you saying we should all now just move to big towns or citys and change are whole way of life?

firemansam4

imo I think anyone who can afford an electric car now would be mad to buy one, there is no where near the infrastructure in ireland needed for electric cars at the moment, there is all sorts of issues with the ones coming out at the moment where they are claiming x y and z about them but there performance is no where near to what they are claiming.
Also isn't there something about there batteries only lasting so long before they would have to be replaced?

I think in time they will improve and become more viable but dont think now is the time to buy one

Aka Ishur

Aka Ishur wrote: »

Abolutely agree with all of what you said.

1) All of it just reinforces the incentive to change to an electric vehicle.

True, And the range isn't a problem for a lot of people, but not the commuter just yet. The Leaf II is supposed to have nearly 200 miles range, they already have 10 min charging on a ultra fast charger, but just don't know if they will have it for Gen II.

Nissan will have induction charging for the 2013 Leaf, pretty cool that, and the 10 min charging!

Price will also be around 5,000 less or more when they start making it in the U.K in 2015, meanwhile you can get a 2nd hand Leaf in the U.K for 22,000 Euro's and pay 0 vrt, you will just have to bring it over on a transporter!

I would defiantly have one myself if I had the money!

Aka Ishur wrote: »

2) I'm sorry but if someone buys a place in the countryside with a long commute, and didnt factor in rapidly rising travel costs they need their head examined. Travel costs have been rising steadily for the last 30 years.

I was born in the country, why should I move ? I was born and reared here. I don't live in the countryside as you say, but not far off. If I worked in Dublin city I can take a bus, if I had to work in Coolock, Finglas, Blanch southside etc I need a car.

There are lots of people that can cycle or walk in towns and cities throughout Ireland or take a bus that Don't

Look at all the Dublin people that was born and reared in Dublin and forced to move to the country because of the extortionate house prices ? do you think it's fair that they (or anyone) should have to pay such high fuel bills to get to work because they chose to live in a place they could actually afford ?

The Government created a situation where most of the employment is in Dublin with very little job opportunities in the likes of Kildare, Carlow, or Kilkenny and probably for the rest of the country too!

Aka Ishur

firemansam4 wrote: »

Ive heard this argument before that its peoples choice to live in the country!

well what about people who are born and rared in the country? are you saying we should all now just move to big towns or citys and change are whole way of life?

If your jobs in Dublin and you cant afford to travel from kildare you have 2 choices. Move to Dublin or get a job in Kildare. If you can afford to travel, cool.

firemansam4 wrote: »

imo I think anyone who can afford an electric car now would be mad to buy one, there is no where near the infrastructure in ireland needed for electric cars at the moment, there is all sorts of issues with the ones coming out at the moment where they are claiming x y and z about them but there performance is no where near to what they are claiming.
Also isn't there something about there batteries only lasting so long before they would have to be replaced?

I think in time they will improve and become more viable but dont think now is the time to buy one

I think its not bad if you are charging it yourself, using it for commuting, local deliveries etc. Also i think re the battery most companies are using a lease system, where a customer just pays a flat rate per month or whatever, and the battery gets changed out whenever needed free of charge. (No pun intended)

Deleted User wrote: »

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Stall the ball Mad_Lad what I said was if someone bought in the country not factoring in the cost then they should have their head examined.

firemansam4

firemansam4 wrote: »

imo I think anyone who can afford an electric car now would be mad to buy one, there is no where near the infrastructure in ireland needed for electric cars at the moment, there is all sorts of issues with the ones coming out at the moment where they are claiming x y and z about them but there performance is no where near to what they are claiming.
Also isn't there something about there batteries only lasting so long before they would have to be replaced?

No Issues with the Nissan Leaf that I am aware apart from 1 minor rare issue with the a/c software in the E.C.U going nuts and stopping the car from starting, again rare!

You can get 120 miles at between 50-60 mph, I think 70-80 miles at 70.

That's more than enough range for many many people. Most people will charge at home so the charging is a non issue, however the 10 min charging when it comes into the Gen II leaf will make a major difference, faster charging is more important than range because most people don't drive more than 100 miles a day.

What's the point of the cost of a 300 mile range battery when you will never do that in one day ?

I think employers that provide parking should be obliged to provide electric charging, and given incentives.

firemansam4 wrote: »

I think in time they will improve and become more viable but dont think now is the time to buy one

If you have the money now is the perfect time, then again if you got 30,000 to spend on a new car I doubt you will be worrying about fuel prices!

Nissan guarantee the leaf for 3 years and the battery for 8, it should last 100,000+ easily as nobody will fully charge or discharge the battery and that's the absolutely crucial thing about Lithium batteries, even the one in your mobile, ipad etc! Never fully charge or discharge! I doubt the leaf's software will allow 100% charges or discharges anyway!

Aka Ishur

Aka Ishur wrote: »

If your jobs in Dublin and you cant afford to travel from kildare you have 2 choices. Move to Dublin or get a job in Kildare. If you can afford to travel, cool.

You will have a hard time to get a job in Kildare! and why should someone leave their native home just because the Government are clueless ignorant fools ? Why should we change our way of life ? High fuel charges don't just effect the commuter they effect the whole economy, hauliers, farmers logistical companies the price of goods go up electric bills, heating etc

What about the people that used to go off for weekend drives and spend that money in local economies? what about the hotels, b&b's pubs ?. It's our right to have the choice to do these things that the Government are denying us more and more.

Aka Ishur wrote: »

I think its not bad if you are charging it yourself, using it for commuting, local deliveries etc. Also i think re the battery most companies are using a lease system, where a customer just pays a flat rate per month or whatever, and the battery gets changed out whenever needed free of charge. (No pun intended)

You don't lease the leaf batter, but Renault will lease the Fluence battery in 2012 for 75 euro's per month on top of the cost of the car.

Renault charge 22,000 ish for the car and 75 Euro per month for leasing the battery for a pitiful 15,000 KMS per year? who will pay so much to do such little miles ? I'd rather buy a leaf, on the other hand Renault take full and total responsibility for the battery and if you sell the car the new owner takes a new lease on a new battery!

Renault's idea is that the cost will be similar to petrol or diesel, however the point is that it's a lot cheaper to make people adopt the newer technology, they will make money out of used batteries for renewable storage systems, so they could make more money that way and not charge the car owner so much!

Aka Ishur

Aka Ishur wrote: »

Stall the ball Mad_Lad what I said was if someone bought in the country not factoring in the cost then they should have their head examined.

HAHA I didn't cop this part,

fair enough, but if you are born and reared in the country and want to live there you shouldn't have to pay extortionate fuel prices regardless!

dev100

Aka Ishur wrote: »

Abolutely agree with all of what you said.

1) All of it just reinforces the incentive to change to an electric vehicle.

2) I'm sorry but if someone buys a place in the countryside with a long commute, and didnt factor in rapidly rising travel costs they need their head examined. Travel costs have been rising steadily for the last 30 years.

First point if we all converted to electric the gov would screw us after a few year because they'd lose revenue. It's a bit like the new car tax .


Second point. Some people don't have a choice as to where they live. In an ideal word I'd love to live next door to work and walk to work. I simply can't
afford to move. It's either people living in rural areas who have work in locality have lost their jobs or the "DUBS" wanting to start life in cheaper housing in rural areas because they couldn't afford homes in the city . I'm sure if you asked a " Dub couple" where they'd prefer to live. They d tell you back in the city close to family and friends


It's not an ideal word

Aka Ishur

dev100 wrote: »

It's not an ideal word

1) Taxes will always be there.

2) I refer you to my post above, if said dub couple moved out to the countryside without factoring in the cost of commuting then their heads need checking.

3) I grew up in courtmacsherry, a small west cork village. I grew up with 4 brothers, between us we have 2 BA's and 2 engineers, (smallest is still in school, hence 4 degrees and one accident). We live in Cork City, Galway, Tipperary, and Perth . This is because we realised that we had to go to where the jobs were, and didnt wait for the jobs to come to us.

dev100

dev100 wrote: »

First point if we all converted to electric the gov would screw us after a few year because they'd lose revenue. It's a bit like the new car tax .

I see a future of tolls!

We pay way too much tax full stop!

All to pay the banks while the ones who owe the money are laughing on their private beaches. They should be in Jail !

dev100

Aka Ishur wrote: »

1) Taxes will always be there.

2) I refer you to my post above, if said dub couple moved out to the countryside without factoring in the cost of commuting then their heads need checking.

3) I grew up in courtmacsherry, a small west cork village. I grew up with 4 brothers, between us we have 2 BA's and 2 engineers, (smallest is still in school, hence 4 degrees and one accident). We live in Cork City, Galway, Tipperary, and Perth . This is because we realised that we had to go to where the jobs were, and didnt wait for the jobs to come to us.

Yes to a certain degree you are right but life isn't black and White most people want to live in their local area like I'm sure some of your family would like to .

One instance a fella in work is married to a Carlow woman and they built a house in Carlow and he got work down there , a number years later he got laid off , he is now commuting to work in dub paying silly money in motoring costs .

Another fella I know from Laois work around midlands for over 25 year his family lives there wife works in locality . He got laid off he is now commuting to work in dublin.

It's not always simple of an argument you are putting forward.

Aka Ishur

Aka Ishur wrote: »

1) Taxes will always be there.

This is because we realised that we had to go to where the jobs were, and didnt wait for the jobs to come to us.

That's fine, but people should have the option to live where they want and Massive fuel taxes are unfair and unacceptable and to justify some of it by calling it a carbon tax is even more infuriating. And then by applying carbon tax in this years budget to petrol and diesel and not to the most polluting of all, "coal" is just insane and makes the Government look like complete fools!

DO they want us to go back to steam power ? well they are sending us back to the dark ages anyway. Complete shower of muppets!

dev100

dev100 wrote: »

Yes to a certain degree you are right but life isn't black and White most people want to live in their local area like I'm sure some of your family would like to .

One instance a fella in work is married to a Carlow woman and they built a house in Carlow and he got work down there , a number years later he got laid off , he is now commuting to work in dub paying silly money in motoring costs .

Another fella I know from Laois work around midlands for over 25 year his family lives there wife works in locality . He got laid off he is now commuting to work in dublin.

It's not always simple of an argument you are putting forward.

I couldn't agree more!

And just imagine the devastation to the rural economies and communities!

So much of anyone's incomes should not go to the Government, it should be up to US who decide what to do with our money!

liammur

If your car is off the road for a period of time, did they change the way that works?

thebman

Aka Ishur wrote: »

Um they dont buy a new car?

Ok being nice, I was talking about an incentive to buy an electric car, so this would be a new car and therefore not an option for someone struggling day by day.

Electric cars can't do the mileage for a daily commute on a single charge. That and the technology is unproven to work in Ireland. What for example is the batteries performance going to be like in 5 years time with exposure to high levels of humidity in Ireland?

If you are buying a ''newer fuel efficient car'', to save on the difference between this years costs in fuel, tax etc and next years, it all depends on the vehicles involved and their prices. The government has not made a 'cash in hand' incentive to change, but by creating an ongoing saving through making a change, they have created an opportunity cost of not changing. That opportunity cost is the incentive.

People don't need an incentive to buy new cars. Everyone would love one, what people lack is the money to buy new cars. Taking more off them for driving their current car makes their efficient new car an even bigger pipe dream.

Increasing the opportunity cost would incentivise if we were talking about changing from premium to unleaded petrol but not for a purchase as expensive as buying a car.

The truth is they desperately need the tax revenues and promised not to increase income tax. Since most people drive to work, this is it by the back door.

The Government are used to the "back door".

Sooner or later they are going to price petrol and diesel out of the market, I remember several years ago people saying fuel would never go to 1.50 per litre at the pumps. Now they are saying it will never reach 2.00 Euros!

If it goes up 2 cent per year in 10 years it will be 1.80 per litre and those using 60 litres of fuel a week to get to work at a cost of 5,100 Euro's per year, That's madness bearing in mind the cost of petrol and diesel would only be around 60 cent per litre before all the taxes!

The price of cars is a joke. Take the Golf comfortline 1.6 TDI, it costs 24,065 take away all the taxes and it costs a very reasonable 16,349!

IF they just removed vrt it would cost 20,695!

Take the Audi A4 2.0 TDI SE new price is €38,850 subtract taxes and the price would be 25,780 that's a whopping insane 13,000 in tax!!!

So in other words you could get a new A4 for the same price as a Golf only for the taxes, isn't that insane the way we are screwed ?

Bmw 3 series 2.0 Diesel costs 40,130 after tax, would cost 31,688 without tax.


The Nissan Leaf Electric car would cost just 23,600 Euros without the 21% vat or now 23% vat. (no vrt applies) And there is a rebate of 5000 Euro's.
the new rate of vrt makes the leaf 600 euro's more expensive, surely they could make e.v's exempt ? after all they want 20,000 or so on the roads by 2020.

In the U.S the Leaf costs around 22000 Dollars (before Government incentives ) and they think that's way too expensive!

If people could get the Leaf for 23,600 it would sell a hell of a lot better and help the Government reach their Kyoto emissions targets much sooner because transport is a significant proportion of our emissions and farming. But we will pay lots of carbon tax in the future if we can't (and we won't) be able to reach those targets, not with renewables anyway! but the Government don't care because they will just increase carbon tax to make up the difference! So high taxes are more harmful than good!


Everything now is way too expensive, if they reduced taxes people will buy more. Who in their right mind would buy a new car in Ireland ? I certainly wouldn't give them all the taxes, that 8,000 Euro saving on the price of a new golf is far better in my pocket, or 13,000 on a new A4 and more and more people are realising this now, so in fact the Governments extortionate taxes are actually doing more harm in the long run!

The problem in the boom was too many people were on a high and spending like mad, mostly loans of course,and never gave all the taxes a 2nd thought, now people are not willing to get out such loans now because they realise the value for money is not there!

High taxes in a recession is very harmful, people won't spend!

Sure we can't have no tax but fairer tax is what we need!

anymore

Deleted User wrote: »

The Irish Government sends out a message that Ireland supports the dirtiest of fuels by not applying carbon tax to solid fuel in the latest budget today!

Coal is significantly dirtier than kerosene!

Petrol cars are also taxed much higher than diesel and diesel fuel is the most toxic yet the lower carbon tax, motor tax and vrt on diesel promotes much more polluting vehicles in our towns and cities, how mad is that ?

I don't agree with any kind of carbon tax, nor do I agree with the increasing tax on electric bills to guarantee wealthy wind farm owners for 20 years income making wind farms 20 times more expensive than gas and making our electricity bills more expensive!
The fact carbon tax is used as an excuse for more revenue is a disgrace!

Applying Carbon tax to fuel that is already highly taxed is a disgrace, anyone commuting to work that has to drive 100 miles total a day is paying at least 4500 Euro's in fuel bills a year, excluding car repayments and maintenance making working less of an option to the dole simply because it's getting unaffordable if you have to drive long distance to work)

if they want to tax fuel they should tax it based on it's toxic emissions and not Co2, co2 won't give us cancer, and plants and crops love it! the other exhaust emissions will and are killing us. Coal emissions from power stations emit a lot more dangerous emissions into the atmosphere. Nuclear has 0 emissions and yet we continue to allow coal to be burned in power stations and homes!

I also did not see any incentives for anyone wanting to buy an electric car which would (substantially) reduce fuel bills and emissions from towns and cities!

Politicians have all thier motor expenses paid for and can even make a profit from them, so there is your answer.