"Working" classes breeding like rabbits

Estebano

What will happen to society when there is no middle class left? I predict this will occur within a generation. The middle classes are being taxed out of existence and reproducing themselves out of existence.

A cursory look around the maternity hospitals shows that the people reproducing are welfare recipients who are incentivised to have kids young (free gaff at 18) and often (children's allowance). Immigrants from all over the world are equally incentivised to come here, with the added bonus EU citizenship. Any "normal working people" who have babies are well into their 30s (sometimes 40s) and are crippled with two full-time and childcare costs. </deft generalisation>

We need doctors and engineers to make a successful society, not a feral, uneducated youth with a passion for urban street wear.

Within 20 years, we will have millions of proles and a ruling elite. Brave New World style.

Guill

Estebano wrote: »

What will happen to society when there is no middle class left? I predict this will occur within a generation. The middle classes are being taxed out of existence and reproducing themselves out of existence.

A cursory look around the maternity hospitals shows that the people reproducing are welfare recipients who are incentivised to have kids young (free gaff at 18) and often (children's allowance). Immigrants from all over the world are equally incentivised to come here, with the added bonus EU citizenship. Any "normal working people" who have babies are well into their 30s (sometimes 40s) and are crippled with two full-time and childcare costs. </deft generalisation>

We need doctors and engineers to make a successful society, not a feral, uneducated youth with a passion for urban street wear.

Within 20 years, we will have millions of proles and a ruling elite. Brave New World style.

Agh sure it'll be grand.

ChunkyLover_53

Where do I sign up? I've got my own lube.

blah

I can't link to this at the moment, but search youtube for "Idiocracy Intro" which sums up your post in 3 minutes.

Superbus

But it's fine, because you're above such trivialities.

My name is URL

Estebano wrote: »

We need doctors and engineers to make a successful society

Through the use of a strict eugenics program?

chucken1

I'm confused
Are'nt us good Irish catholics supposed to "breed like rabbits"? :rolleyes:

Gummy Panda

I'd rather be a prole than a member of the outer party drinking victory gin

TeddyTedson

We need them to pay our pensions.

Ellis Dee

Is "Estebano" what Kevin Myarse is calling himself these days?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

hooradiation

Estebano wrote: »

What will happen to society when there is no middle class left? I predict this will occur within a generation. The middle classes are being taxed out of existence and reproducing themselves out of existence.

A cursory look around the maternity hospitals shows that the people reproducing are welfare recipients who are incentivised to have kids young (free gaff at 18) and often (children's allowance). Immigrants from all over the world are equally incentivised to come here, with the added bonus EU citizenship. Any "normal working people" who have babies are well into their 30s (sometimes 40s) and are crippled with two full-time and childcare costs. </deft generalisation>

We need doctors and engineers to make a successful society, not a feral, uneducated youth with a passion for urban street wear.

Within 20 years, we will have millions of proles and a ruling elite. Brave New World style.

Ohh, do we all get a go at clichéd doommongering that not even the Daily Mail would print?
Cos this could be fun....

snubbleste

You can't be right OP, shure don't they give out condoms with welfare payments these days.

Chuck Stone

You're not a social scientist are you OP?

starbelgrade

Estebano wrote: »

A cursory look around the maternity hospitals shows that the people reproducing are welfare recipients who are incentivised to have kids young (free gaff at 18) and often (children's allowance).

Ah yes, nothing backs up an argument about the future of Irish society better than a cursory look around the maternity hospitals.

Good work fella.. with research like that, we have a firm foundation for setting out the steps we need to bring this country forward.

carfiosaoorl

Thats some load of tripe OP :rolleyes: Exactly how many maternity hospitals have you had a cursory look around and have you nothing else to be doing with your time?

Estebano

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ah yes, nothing backs up an argument about the future of Irish society better than a cursory look around the maternity hospitals.

Good work fella.. with research like that, we have a firm foundation for setting out the steps we need to bring this country forward.

I'd doubt it would be "politically correct" to collect statistics on mothers' income bracket/employment status.

chucken1

carfiosaoorl wrote: »

Thats some load of tripe OP :rolleyes: Exactly how many maternity hospitals have you had a cursory look around and have you nothing else to be doing with your time?

Nice day out though..looking at all the new babas
....oopppsss think I just felt my working class ovaries tingle :cool:

fryup

chucken1 wrote: »

I'm confused
Are'nt us good Irish catholics supposed to "breed like rabbits"? :rolleyes:

yes you are

starbelgrade

Estebano wrote: »

I'd doubt it would be "politically correct" to collect statistics on mothers' income bracket/employment status.

They collect a lot more information than that about women in maternity hospitals, but if you don't feel like asking them yourself, check out the CSO census figures online.

chucken1

fryup wrote: »

yes you are

Im just generalising on the catholic Irish bit btw

Bit like the OP's generalisations.

hooradiation

Estebano wrote: »

I'd doubt it would be "politically correct" to collect statistics on mothers' income bracket/employment status.

You should probably stick to complaining about "heresy" in catholic church and misunderstanding the word "equality".
You'd be on ever so slightly less shaky footing.

OurLadyofKnock

Estebano wrote: »

Within 20 years, we will have millions of proles and a ruling elite.

We already have this. It is called Partnership.

I am being serious. The Public Sector in Ireland are the inner party members. Blantantly obvious when you think about it.

The rest of us are the Proles left to fend for ourselvers.

desertcircus

Estebano wrote: »

starbelgrade wrote: »

Ah yes, nothing backs up an argument about the future of Irish society better than a cursory look around the maternity hospitals.

Good work fella.. with research like that, we have a firm foundation for setting out the steps we need to bring this country forward.

I'd doubt it would be "politically correct" to collect statistics on mothers' income bracket/employment status.

So just to clarify: your position is one you are completely convinced you have no impartial evidence for? I'd doubt it would be "even vaguely logical" to have a firm opinion you have no actual evidence for. So is it because you're a bit dim, or you hate poor people?

Logical Fallacy

Estebano wrote: »

Within 20 years, we will have millions of proles and a ruling elite. Brave New World style.

Yet another person who doesn't understand what Proles means.

I guess you are from the Remedial Class OP?

tricky D

Need more devout Catholics like the OP. That'll make everything so much better, just like the auld days.

HavingCrack

I'm fairly sure the middle class has been growing annually and those identifying as 'working' class declining for quite some time in Ireland.

By the way, describing people who have never had a job as 'working' class is a massive insult to people who do work in lower paid jobs.

EGAR

Darn immigrants, they breed like wabbits and take all our jobs and wimmins and on top of that are all unemployed and live off our taxes and only want EU *status*.

What a lovely life it must be to be an immigrant :rolleyes:.


OP, a cursory glance at your post makes me go :eek:

OurLadyofKnock

Won't matter anyways as Ireland will be a German province in 20 years.

Officially that is.

EGAR

OurLadyofKnock wrote: »

Won't matter anyways as Ireland will be a German province in 20 years.

Officially that is.

Ganz offiziell, meine Dame, JAWOHL!!

I don't want to knock the lady....

blatantrereg

You're confusing people's socio-economic class with their sense of responsibility, which is horribly prejudiced.

But I agree with the argument that stupid/irresponsible people tend to have more kids than rational/responsible ones, that this is encouraged by society, and that this can only be a bad thing. And yes I think Idiocracy sums it up. Idiocracy is a good film.

twistedsoul

OP are you related to Hitler? what do u want to exterminate the working class !

chucken1

OurLadyofKnock wrote: »

Won't matter anyways as Ireland will be a German province in 20 years.

Officially that is.

Do the Germans not have babies?

chucken1

twistedsoul wrote: »

OP are you related to Hitler? what do u want to exterminate the working class !

Was'nt he catholic?? Ergo..promotes "breeding like wabbits"

biko

I love doin' the big box little box
I'm partial to the finger bang <<< me

Corruptable

Not sure about the OP's information, but this is an issue I've heard time and time again.

There is certainly a policy (whether intentional or reckless) of decimating an independent Middle Class, which has a stake invested in society and thus scrutinizes decisions from the government in manifest detail because the issues of taxation, wages, employment opportunities actually affect our lives.

The only option is emigration for those who have a "get up and go" attitude, from the cutting of the ability to get a higher education, I know many who are penalised for trying to show initiative and pick themselves up from unemployment and welfare dependence.

Nolanger

twistedsoul wrote: »

OP are you related to Hitler? what do u want to exterminate the working class !

Because they don't contribute to society anymore due the collapse of the manufacturing and construction sectors. They should be paid a sterilisation allowance from the welfare!

old hippy

As long as smug, intolerant types like the OP are bred out of existence, I don't mind

hooradiation

chucken1 wrote: »

Do the Germans not have babies?

Look, people who parrot that line weren't using critical thought when they decided it was a reasonable thing to say, so don't expect too much.
You'll only be disappointed.

chucken1

hooradiation wrote: »

Look, people who parrot that line weren't using critical thought when they decided it was a reasonable thing to say, so don't expect too much.
You'll only be disappointed.

:eek: But..but..but it was ourladyofknock who said it...has to be true!

blatantrereg

twistedsoul wrote: »

OP are you related to Hitler? what do u want to exterminate the working class !

Nazi = "Nationalist Socialist"

Hitler was well supported by the working class

wikipedia wrote:

In the poor country that was the Weimar Republic of the early 1930s, the Nazi Party realised their socialist policies with food and shelter for the unemployed and the homeless — later recruited to the Sturmabteilung

slimpickens

Estebano

It is not the working class you need to worry about.
You are working class unless one of the following applies to you:

You have a trust fund that allows you to live the high life without working
You are and Arab Prince
You are a a member of the welfare class that wears pyjamas all day and allows other people's taxes subsidise your slothful existence


If you say you are middle class - you are working class

If you are part of the welfare class - you say you are working class.

Deus Ex Machina

Estebano wrote: »

What will happen to society when there is no middle class left? I predict this will occur within a generation. The middle classes are being taxed out of existence and reproducing themselves out of existence.

A cursory look around the maternity hospitals shows that the people reproducing are welfare recipients who are incentivised to have kids young (free gaff at 18) and often (children's allowance). Immigrants from all over the world are equally incentivised to come here, with the added bonus EU citizenship. Any "normal working people" who have babies are well into their 30s (sometimes 40s) and are crippled with two full-time and childcare costs. </deft generalisation>

We need doctors and engineers to make a successful society, not a feral, uneducated youth with a passion for urban street wear.

Within 20 years, we will have millions of proles and a ruling elite. Brave New World style.

That's nothing like the society in Brave New World.

suicide_circus

Ah yes, abuse being thrown at the OP for pointing out the very real problem of the dwindling number of tax cows...and Godwins law already proven I see, excellent. All is as is it should be in AH.

blatantrereg

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ah yes, abuse being thrown at the OP for pointing out the very real problem of the dwindling number of tax cows...and Godwins law already proven I see, excellent. All is as is it should be in AH.

People are taking exception to the way he characterises working class people in general

somefeen

Tragedy of the commons?

Its a bit harsh but true

somefeen

Estebano wrote: »

What will happen to society when there is no middle class left? I predict this will occur within a generation. The middle classes are being taxed out of existence and reproducing themselves out of existence.

A cursory look around the maternity hospitals shows that the people reproducing are welfare recipients who are incentivised to have kids young (free gaff at 18) and often (children's allowance). Immigrants from all over the world are equally incentivised to come here, with the added bonus EU citizenship. Any "normal working people" who have babies are well into their 30s (sometimes 40s) and are crippled with two full-time and childcare costs. </deft generalisation>

We need doctors and engineers to make a successful society, not a feral, uneducated youth with a passion for urban street wear.

Within 20 years, we will have millions of proles and a ruling elite. Brave New World style.

Thats 1984 btw

suicide_circus

blatantrereg wrote: »

People are taking exception to the way he characterises working class people in general

And I take exception to the term 'working class' since the people he refers to probably dont work at all and just expect the tax payer to foot the bill for everything; their dole, housing, kids, medical card etc

strobe

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

That's nothing like the society in Brave New World.

Going by the use if the word 'Proles' I take it he meant 1984, but he clearly hasn't read that either, as his future vision is not represented in that novel either.

billybudd

Why do you call them working class if you dont think they work?

jcf

depressingly true...

Apolloyon

Personally, I think the OP is being too optimistic. I predict the worst case scenario: cats and dogs living together.