Do you like Aussies?

aido79

I've be in Australia for almost 4 years but have moved jobs a few months ago. In my last couple of jobs in Perth I was working with alot of Irish guys with some Aussie guys. In my new job the guys I work with are mostly Aussie and its just not the same. I miss the Irish humour and banter as Aussies just don't have the same sense of humour. Whats anyone else's opinion?

Pisco Sour

Like people from every country on this planet, they have their positives and negatives. Have met some great Australian people, and have met some right d1ckheads! Really can't make a sweeping generalisation.

okioffice84

After spending a little time in NZ you realise that an awful lot of Aussies (especially when abroad) are loud, brash, obnoxious and pretty damn racist.

Pisco Sour

Two things I will say though:

1) From travelling and meeting Aussies in Ireland I always had the idea in my head that Aussies were people that were always up for the craic. But when you actually live in Australia you realise that the Australians you meet abroad when travelling are not reflective of the general population in Australia. Have met a fair chunk of people who you simply could not squeeze any ounce of craic out of.

2) Contrary to most countries where people from the countryside tend to be friendlier than city people, Australia is actually an exception to this rule. I've found many of the people I have met in rural Australia to be among the rudest and socially inept people I have ever frequented. I guess being so isolated doesn't help with the good old fashioned people skills!

jank

Random numbers, I think you are taking Australia all too serious!

seachto7

Thread to be locked before it gets to page 2!!!

Aussies same as anyone else, though it's great to wind them up and have a hop off them. I have met the coolest people in Aus, and I have met rude people, same in every other country including Ireland.

You go to some pubs in rural Ireland, and they're as bad as any outback pub, and we have the "culture" of Europe on our doorstep...

Stinicker

I quite like the Aussies and rate them as one of my favoured nationalities, I was especially endeared by the hospitality shown towards me and my friends last year in the smaller towns and villages in rural Australia whom I would consider to be salt of the earth aussies.

I met some really nice folk and after driving up the east coast we stopped back into the same small motel we had stayed in a few days previous and the people were so friendly and nice it left a great impression, there was a power cut when arrived that night as a car had crashed into the powerlines nearby unfortunatly killing the driver and they only wanted to charge us half rate but I insisted on paying full due to the brilliant hospitality shown towards us.

A few days later we stopped in another small coal mining town in Queensland and went for food and happened upon two lads from Tipperary and got talking to them. It was an aussie "Hotel" so we got some food which took me ill so I ended up in the jacks, in the cubicle. Whilst I was in there two or three Aussie lads came in for a whizz and one of the Tipperary lads came in then and just said hello to them, took a piss and left.

I was still in the crapper un-beknown to everyone and vile racist outburst about the Irish after the Tipp lad left out of them shocked me, and they certainly had it in for the Irish. I flushed and left with them still smoking away in the jacks, I simply nodded at them and they never knew I was Irish. It left a sour mental image however they were rural hick miners so it didn't sully my image of the aussies overall.

The one group of people I gained massive admiration for were the Kiwis I met in Australia and they left some very positive impressions on me. So to quote Father Ted, "The Aussies and Kiwis, a great bunch of lads and sheilas too"

irishh_bob

okioffice84 wrote: »

After spending a little time in NZ you realise that an awful lot of Aussies (especially when abroad) are loud, brash, obnoxious and pretty damn racist.

i lived and worked in NZ over a decade ago , i found casual racism pretty rife in new zealand

mandrake04

In before the lock.

In general I know some Aussies tend to be racist, sarcastic and all the rest but its hardly going be the given rule. I find them grand once you understand their humour and they understand yours (takes a while tho), and like Stinicker I have met some salt of the earth people especially in the rural areas. Just remember its part and parcel of the country if you don't like just don't come, no point trying to change a country just because it doesn't suit yourself.

As for all the Irish people who often report here that they are shocked by racism in Australia, I cant understand how you cant be shocked at the racism in Ireland towards Travellers or is that different?

You just have to look at the AH forum and nearly every thread on Traveller's is locked by the 2nd page, glass houses and stones and all that.

bored reader

+1 mandrake.
Go to an Irish city and hear the abuse other nationalities that work in the late night eateries get. its shameful to say the least. go to bondi junction any night or the rocks on a Sunday in Sydney and see the carry on!!

We as a race are far from perfect.

hussey

Mod I'll keep an eye on this - but i don't want it turning into a flame aussie thread.

************

Do I like Aussies - Yes, very much so
Do they have the same sense of humour as Irish - No at all

jackbhoy

My personal experience is that the younger Aussies i.e < 30, are bit harder to gel with than older generations. From meeting neighbours, people in pub etc I find older people a bit more laid back and willing to have the craic wheras younger generation take themselves a bit too seriously and are busy trying to fit the hipster stereotype. But then I do live in Brunswick so hipster/crustie segment of society is probably over represented here

Overall though my experience of Aussies has been overwhelmingly positive and some of our Aussie friends have been incredibly helpful and generous in helping us with the move over and in settling here...

brendansmith

I lived in Melbourne for 2 and a half years, I made Irish mates, Kiwi mates, English mates, French mates, Belgian mates, Italian mates, American mates, Canadian mates, Danish mates, Chilean mates etc etc but no Australian mates.

I find them quite 'stand-off-ish' in general and arrogant so no I don't really like the Ozzies but Id love to go back to Melbourne for a few more years.

Jumpy

Too bad. You are all barred.

Diddler82

I have a few comments to make on this! In my 2 years over here (this week actually) I have made some very good Australian friends as well as Irish, English, Scottish, French, Welsh and even Malta of all places. This through the joy that is playing "Soccer" competitively or football to most of us. Anyway, some of my own observations:

• Their humour is different to ours, though I work with a couple of "westies" here in the CBD and they are equally adept to banter/sledging and giving/taking sh*t.
• Around the Easten Suburbs where I live (well North Bondi) I notice that they just live in their own little bubble and seem to just either keep to themselves or just are not bothered with Backpackers (which is what they consider us all to be living around Bondi!) who may come and go out of their lives in a couple of months (unless you are female of course)! Not knocking them but if you have an established group of friends in Ireland would you be bothered with people trying to integrate in similar circumstances?
• Unfortunately, I have found the majorityof Australians I have met lack any real substance/depth or the want/desire/ability to strike up an interesting conversation. This is mainly friends partners, close friends and the like so its not from drunken scourging! I almost blame the Australian media, Social Media and even that disgrace of a free paper MX they hand out. Australians appear to be happy to coast along unaware of what is going on around them in respect to Government and current affairs. I am sure you all know people who do not fit into this mould (as do I) but as I said the majority.

So before I get the head bitten off me, this is based on my experience of working in the CBD and living in the Eastern Suburbs. I am not well travelled in Australia and don't pretend to be. This is merely my take on the people I have met the past 2 years.

To answer the question though - Yes I do like the majority of Australian's I have met.

I have only met a couple that I can say I that I hate but they could have been any nationality just 2 idiots I had the displeasure of working with!

astonaidan

In the 2 months I have been here Ive found the Aussies to be pretty sound, Well except for a couple who were complete **** but saying that ive met a couple of irish **** over here aswell, Regarding the sense of humour christ but they arent on the same wave length at all, In the hostel im in the guy at the desk takes everything i say as me being serious when at home they would realise it was a joke, The poor bastard thinks we actually enjoy dancing in the rain:rolleyes:

Derfil

The biggest shower of whingers I've ever come across. Ooohh it's too cold. Ooh it's always raining. Ooooh I'd love a bush fire right now. And the best "You didnt really beat us because blah and blah weren't playing"

Zambia

Derfil wrote: »

The biggest shower of whingers I've ever come across. Ooohh it's too cold. Ooh it's always raining. Ooooh I'd love a bush fire right now. And the best "You didnt really beat us because blah and blah weren't playing"

So you come on here and whinge about it? Bit ironic.

SmartHass

If the Aussies are stand off-ish to the Irish, I blame Ambasseder Brian McFadden and Representitive Ronan Keating

seipeal1

Living in Adelaide, things may be slightly different to the big smokes, but i have lived in Sydney, London and Perth as well and yes, people are different with very different sense of humours to us. Every country is different and we live the other side of the planet to Ireland so what do we expect?
I find the Aussies to be decent, hard working family orientated people. Oh, does that sound familiar? Oh, like Ireland.
Dickheads come from everywhere.
I find you need to invest a bit more time for people over here to get to know you but when you do it is worth it.
Spend time understanding the people and culture we have invested a lot to live within and you might be surprised what you find. Imho, anyway!

irishh_bob

mandrake04 wrote: »

In before the lock.

In general I know some Aussies tend to be racist, sarcastic and all the rest but its hardly going be the given rule. I find them grand once you understand their humour and they understand yours (takes a while tho), and like Stinicker I have met some salt of the earth people especially in the rural areas. Just remember its part and parcel of the country if you don't like just don't come, no point trying to change a country just because it doesn't suit yourself.

As for all the Irish people who often report here that they are shocked by racism in Australia, I cant understand how you cant be shocked at the racism in Ireland towards Travellers or is that different?

You just have to look at the AH forum and nearly every thread on Traveller's is locked by the 2nd page, glass houses and stones and all that.

travellers ( in ireland ) are white and 99% of them are catholic , racism against travellers by settled people is inconceviable on every level

mandrake04

irishh_bob wrote: »

travellers ( in ireland ) are white and 99% of them are catholic , racism against travellers by settled people is inconceviable on every level

I had to read your post twice, nearly thought you said that there is no racism against the distinct ethnic group known as Travellers.

But yeah I agree with you that some settled Irish people forget about that type of racism, but they do like have a whinge or an opinion about what Aussies do in Australia.

irishh_bob

mandrake04 wrote: »

I had to read your post twice, nearly thought you said that there is no racism against the distinct ethnic group known as Travellers.

But yeah I agree with you that some settled Irish people forget about that type of racism, but they do like have a whinge or an opinion about what Aussies do in Australia.

not sure how long you have been out of ireland but the U.N has ( as yet ) not forced us to grant any kind of ethnic status on travellers so you were right the first time , i said thier was no racism against travellers in ireland , just as thier is no racism against people from roscommon or sligo either

STIG83

Ive been in Perth since Sept, have met a few nice people from work etc, but some are just such dicks!! full of themselves and so arrogant.

Place i was living in for while my flatmate's friend was over and i met him and went to shake his hand, he wouldnt as he dislikes the Irish. :rolleyes:

jank

STIG83 wrote: »

Ive been in Perth since Sept, have met a few nice people from work etc, but some are just such dicks!! full of themselves and so arrogant.

Place i was living in for while my flatmate's friend was over and i met him and went to shake his hand, he wouldnt as he dislikes the Irish. :rolleyes:

Hope you took a dump on him while he was asleep.

Father Damo

04072511 wrote: »

Two things I will say though:

1) From travelling and meeting Aussies in Ireland I always had the idea in my head that Aussies were people that were always up for the craic. But when you actually live in Australia you realise that the Australians you meet abroad when travelling are not reflective of the general population in Australia. Have met a fair chunk of people who you simply could not squeeze any ounce of craic out of.

Aussies who have travelled abroad are generally friendlier and more interesting than those who have never left their own state, let alone country. Id definitely get along better with Aussies who can tell me about the pubs they drank in in Dublin during their 3 years in Europe than I would with some lad who has never even been curious enough to visit New Zealand.

As someone said before, rural Aussies generally are alot more insular etc etc than travelled folk. Queenslanders especially- they are some mean fcukers when it comes to the money I found.

irishh_bob wrote: »

travellers ( in ireland ) are white and 99% of them are catholic , racism against travellers by settled people is inconceviable on every level

Oh come on. It isnt even remotely comparable. Irish people dislike travellers because such a large proportion of them are bludgers, thieves, all in all downright awful people who earned their own reputation. Australia seems to dislike foreigners more on grounds of skin colour and the fact they work harder than many Australians, rather than any disproportionately criminal or welfare related reasons (with a few exceptions). Sydney isnt exactly overwhelmed with gangs of Indian criminal gangs who are all on benefits yet they are a maligned group.

Whilst I find most Irish take Aussies on an individual basis, ever notice that most Brits, mainly the older lads settled here 20 plus years, despise nearly every Australian? Ability to drive, work ethic, the names they give their kids, jesus Ive had lifts from some older London lads who have been here decades, rant from start to finish :pac: Even my younger English mates looked at me like I had 2 heads when I said Id give the Socceroos my backing during the WC last year (although in fairness to them, while Ireland vs England sport rivalry is usually one sided banter, Aus vs England does seem to be more genuine dislike)

Derfil wrote: »

The biggest shower of whingers I've ever come across. Ooohh it's too cold. Ooh it's always raining. Ooooh I'd love a bush fire right now. And the best "You didnt really beat us because blah and blah weren't playing"

Too right. Australia isnt perfe3ct but really, crap like housing costs too much....piss off. You pay the same for a detatched mini mansion in the suburbs with a swimming pool in the back that you would have paid the same price for a semi 3 bed paper walled in West Dublin during the boom.

Jumpy

Did Father Damo just post something positive about Aussies?


*Swooon*

Doc

I have some great Aussie friends but if I was to be asked if I would prefer to go on a night out with a bunch of random Australians or a bunch of random Irish people I had never meet before I would defiantly chose the Irish group, I have no doubt that they would be more up for a laugh then the Australian group.

In my opinion and from my experience Irish people are much more likely to do something impulsively because it sounds like fun, where as Australians in general like to plan things out in advance.

It would be extremely rare that I would be out with a group of Australian friends where it hadn’t been planned in advance. No ringing someone up on a Friday or Saturday night and organising something on the spot here.
The sense of humor is different and often I find many Aussies a bit too serious.
Having said that there is benefits to having both types of friends and when you don’t plan anything you can often end up doing the same thing all the time.

But yea I do think Irish people are more fun on a night out then Australian.

CiaranC

Like others I met great Aussies when travelling, living and working round the globe, but when I got to live in Oz I was hugely disappointed in the people there. I think I can count on one hand the amount of Australians I genuinely liked after being there a year.

I loved Americans, Canadians and even them aul Brits after living in those places, and Im enjoying the Kiwis right now, but Australians really ruined Australia for me.

STIG83

jank wrote: »

STIG83 wrote: »

Ive been in Perth since Sept, have met a few nice people from work etc, but some are just such dicks!! full of themselves and so arrogant.

Place i was living in for while my flatmate's friend was over and i met him and went to shake his hand, he wouldnt as he dislikes the Irish. :rolleyes:

Hope you took a dump on him while he was asleep.

I wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire tbh.

Balmed Out

Ive met an awful lot of Australians who are really nice people.

But
So many of the guys have this idiotic and extremely annoying macho thing going on. I can belch louder then you, talk/shout louder, arm wrestle better etc etc. Whats that about? It can be like hanging out with a bunch of five year olds.

So many of the women have been treated badly that i came accross a much higher percentage of women with serious issues. They'd latch on to you fairly quickly because lets face it your not chating her up by belching the alphabet before after a few weeks / months revealing some extreme insecurities and personality disorders.

Again have met loads of sound ones but there is an unusual high proportion of people I dont like spending time with.

Jumpy

Pffff.

Even our women can belch louder than you Balmed Out.

Some can even do the Road Warrior. They are keepers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bG_hTqr9iI

myflipflops

Balmed Out wrote: »

So many of the guys have this idiotic and extremely annoying macho thing going on. I can belch louder then you, talk/shout louder, arm wrestle better etc etc..

Haha. THis is so true.

In the first 2 countries I lived after leaving Ireland, the 2 guys that were probably my best friends in both were Australian. I now live in Oz and like the people so it's fair to say I think they are a decent bunch.

The macho, one upmanship thing takes a bit of getting used to. My Irish mates that have lived here for a couple of years do it now too: conversations turn into a long list of people telling stories about how great they are at anything!!

Self-depracating humour is a big part of someone's personality for a lot of Irish people but it certainly is not for Australians.

Xavi6

Balmed Out wrote: »

Ive met an awful lot of Australians who are really nice people.

But
So many of the guys have this idiotic and extremely annoying macho thing going on. I can belch louder then you, talk/shout louder, arm wrestle better etc etc. Whats that about? It can be like hanging out with a bunch of five year olds.

So many of the women have been treated badly that i came accross a much higher percentage of women with serious issues. They'd latch on to you fairly quickly because lets face it your not chating her up by belching the alphabet before after a few weeks / months revealing some extreme insecurities and personality disorders.

Again have met loads of sound ones but there is an unusual high proportion of people I dont like spending time with.

Hmmmm you seem to be looking at this concept negatively.

I on the other hand would like to thank the knob head macho men for sending these stunning looking specimens in the direction of average folk like myself :pac:

Chopper83

Prefer the kiwis but it quite a sweeping statement.

New Zealand certainly is a much more embracing country with many ethnic communities which I really like.

STIG83

Having trouble trying to find a package that was sent to me in the post,it got lost in transit, im giving up hope on it tbh
So i rang the post customer care number seeing could they do anything or look out for it, the woman i was talking to was so rude!! (An Aussie obviously)
She dealing with customers everyday,no need to be like that, she didnt even offer to attempt to look into it or anything :mad::mad:

Clooney George

After spending a very little time in NZ you appreciate that an horrible lot of Aussies (especially when abroad) are noisy, foolhardy, ridiculous and very really improper.

Traq

STIG83 wrote: »

Having trouble trying to find a package that was sent to me in the post,it got lost in transit, im giving up hope on it tbh
So i rang the post customer care number seeing could they do anything or look out for it, the woman i was talking to was so rude!! (An Aussie obviously)
She dealing with customers everyday,no need to be like that, she didnt even offer to attempt to look into it or anything :mad::mad:

Way off topic but if you've got a twitter account try contacting @auspost. I've contacted them a few times when I've had things go missing and they're usually pretty prompt and helpful with their responses.

Mellor

I don't knpw why people so quick to blame the country people are from.

I've met quite a few aussie who I consider to be dickheads. I've met a group of kiwis last week that were assholes. I don't think that this is anything to do with australia or new zealand. I generally don't let it bother me.

For example, it some aussie was to make a negetive remark towards me being irish, say at a poker table. I'd just laugh at him, he can say what he wants. But he is the one that looks like the dick, this has ahappened a few times, and i've have other aussie tell them to STFU.

Pisco Sour

There's no country I have been to where I liked every person I have met. Granted some countries have less blatently obvious d1ckheads and a higher percentage of friendlier/ politer people than others (Japan, South Korea, all the South American countries from my experience), while others have a higher percentage of ruder people (China, from what people are telling me, and my 12 hours in Shanghai Airport confirmed that). But no country is perfect. Ireland has plenty of w@nkers. Australia has lots of d1ckheads. Met some rude people in NZ. Same with America, UK, France, Sweden etc etc.

Unfair to generalise about Australians. There's many good, and there's many t0ssers.

aido79

aido79 wrote: »

I've be in Australia for almost 4 years but have moved jobs a few months ago. In my last couple of jobs in Perth I was working with alot of Irish guys with some Aussie guys. In my new job the guys I work with are mostly Aussie and its just not the same. I miss the Irish humour and banter as Aussies just don't have the same sense of humour. Whats anyone else's opinion?

Didn't mean for this to turn into an anti Aussie thread.Just wanted to see what other people's opinions were. I've got Aussie friends and get on with alot of the Aussie guys I work with. As has been mentioned there are a#$holes in every country and Australia has got its fair share. Sometimes I think their idea of a bit of craic is to see who can abuse each other the most and the loudest. I have also met some of the most racist people I have ever met since coming here but have also met plenty of racist Irish people. I love Australia and the lifestyle but am glad there is a good number of Irish people here!

irishh_bob

Clooney George wrote: »

After spending a very little time in NZ you appreciate that an horrible lot of Aussies (especially when abroad) are noisy, foolhardy, ridiculous and very really improper.

i saw nothing particulary polite or pleasant about kiwis , dont get me wrong , ive met more unpleasant nationalitys but they are a dour and dull bunch in many ways , the south island in particular has a very scotts presbyterian vibe about it , hence the dourness

whosyour_daddy

STIG83 wrote: »

Place i was living in for while my flatmate's friend was over and i met him and went to shake his hand, he wouldnt as he dislikes the Irish. :rolleyes:

WHAAAT!!:mad::mad:
If that happened to me he would be on an express trip to the hospital.

STIG83

whosyour_daddy wrote: »

WHAAAT!!:mad::mad:
If that happened to me he would be on an express trip to the hospital.

This guy was and is a a proper prick tbh.

The Aussie

I get Nationalist/Racist abuse over here in Ireland all the time, the other week i had two blokes come onto the site asking for scrap when i told them the Polish fellas i work with collect it for them selves they started screaming and telling to fu^k off back to England (HaHaHa) and calling me a "Little Snot".

Last weekend on both Friday and Saturday nights working my second job i got told to Fu^k off back to New Zealand/Australia several times and i will be told to **** off back to New Zealand/Australia this weekend as well.

The Polish blokes at work (i dont work with any Irish in the company im with its all Polls and me) have some right horror stories about blatant racism and bigotry towards them and even worse their wives.

All i can say to you is "Welcome to being a minority group". No matter what country you are from or how naive you are, if your in a majority most of the conversation goes right over your head because its accepted, even in this faux utopian society that is Ireland

mandrake04

I hear you are a racist now father!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheZM6VBJfE

bored reader

totally agree with 'the aussie' . after spending a few years working in Australia I never witnessed anything like the abuse and racism the non nationals in Ireland get from us, the Irish.

they are by in large doing jobs which we feel are beneath us.

I found the Australians very welcoming and polite in the vast majority. I doubt the same could be said about us.

jank

The Aussie wrote: »

I get Nationalist/Racist abuse over here in Ireland all the time, the other week i had two blokes come onto the site asking for scrap when i told them the Polish fellas i work with collect it for them selves they started screaming and telling to fu^k off back to England (HaHaHa) and calling me a "Little Snot".

Last weekend on both Friday and Saturday nights working my second job i got told to Fu^k off back to New Zealand/Australia several times and i will be told to **** off back to New Zealand/Australia this weekend as well.

The Polish blokes at work (i dont work with any Irish in the company im with its all Polls and me) have some right horror stories about blatant racism and bigotry towards them and even worse their wives.

All i can say to you is "Welcome to being a minority group". No matter what country you are from or how naive you are, if your in a majority most of the conversation goes right over your head because its accepted, even in this faux utopian society that is Ireland

Do you also work as a door man?

The Aussie

jank wrote: »

Do you also work as a door man?

Unfortunately, yes. great money though:D

Martin Walker

When i first arrived in Australia me and the Mrs went to Broome in WA. Simply because her parents lived there. Nice place. Didnt like the people at all. Ver closed community and everyone that wasnt born in Broome or lived there for at least 20 years was an outrsider. So naturally i left.
Ive been living in Cairns FNQ for about a year and a half now. I am a Barber so i work with the public for at least 8 hours every day so i think i can comment on the Aussie people ive encountered fairly.
Up here the White Australian male under 30 years old is very hard to get on with. They seem to be very insecure about themselves. Very brash, obnoxious, agressive and small minded people. Also the way they speak to wives/ girlfriends leaves alot to be desired. They are typical steriotype up here. Singlets, footy shorts, tattoos, full of steroids ,no shoes and mullets/rat tails.
Now once they get over about 35 they seem to lighten up abit. Ive made more friends that are older than me than younger. The ones that get through that period still in relationships seem to go on and have what i would call your normal family life.
Older still around pensioner age they are cool. Chat away and are very civil to me. However the highest amout of racism ive heard is from Pensioners. I think its just they were born in a different time. They dont hide what they think.
The Aborigional Australian is an enigma. Some do the people no favors at all. Constanty drinking and causing trouble. Some ive found are really nice people that will befriend you and never have a bad thing to say. Im also working in a gym in a predominatly Aborigional community and ive met lots of really good young people that seemed to just need some direction in life.
I think the Gov throwing money at them is not the way to solve the problems over here.
Pacific islanders i get on with best. They are more relaxed and funny people very like my friends back home. This is the same with them accross the board. All ages are just the same. Not alot annoys them. They are really good people.

So i guess its a mix up here. Its gotten to the point where im not trying to socialise with lads my age or younger anymore. I just cant be annoyed with there immature behavior. If you are thinking of coming to Australia my advice is to take it as it is. They are very different people to the Irish with different views and worries. Some can be really hard to relate to. I however dont let this worry me. Working with the public for so long has taught me how to deal with people. People i dont like i just walk away from. Ive got more to worry about than how others want to live there lives.

Bit of a long one there but i had a bit of time to spare before going to the gym tonight.

Marty

jank

The Aussie wrote: »

Unfortunately, yes. great money though:D

I wouldn't take the abuse you got too personally so. Doormen are not generally the most liked people so if they hear an accent then they will go for it, especially after a rake of drink and you have to refuse them entry.