I'll pay for you to drink loads of coca cola and wear ugg boots

Chinasea

Six One News: Teenage girl may lose 14 teeth - Video - RT News Player#

I am not buying this and I think there is a twofold agenda here.

One it is the dentists pleading poverty and the other is an over exagerated tale of woe by a family who have a medical card and all the other many "entitlements" that go with it.

How can you need so many fillings at this age? is it neglect? is it a diet of coca cola and junk.

ps: tell me you are poor when you don't plonk yourself up on the dentist chair with a big old expensive pair of Ugg boots on paid from your parents dole money.

Biggins

Chinasea wrote: »

Six One News: Teenage girl may lose 14 teeth - Video - RT News Player#

I am not buying this and I think there is a twofold agenda here.

One it is the dentists pleading poverty and the other is an over exagerated tale of woe by a family who have a medical card and all the other many "entitelments" that go with it.

How can you need so many fillings at this age? is it neglect? is it a diet of coca cola and junk.

ps: tell me you are poor when you don't plonk yourself up on the dentist chair with a big old expensive pair of Ugg boots on paid from your parents dole money.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/shauna-is-16-and-needs-some-fillings-but-hse-cuts-mean-it-will-only-pay-to-have-14-of-her-teeth-extracted-instead-2953067.html

Think there was a thread on this already, too.

Kasabian

I pay a small fortune on PRSI yet I can't get a filling without forking out €80.

Fromthetrees

I love coca cola and my teeth are shagged.

sunflower27

I have never had a filling in my life and I have just turned 39!!!

We never had a lot of sweets growing up and soft drinks were a luxury.

At her age that is incredible... I have never heard the likes of anyone so young in need of that many fillings. Could it really be down to sweets and soft drinks? Maybe they just weren't formed right when she was little or something.

Bit by this...

mattjack

sunflower27 wrote: »

I have never had a filling in my life and I have just turned 39!!!

We never had a lot of sweets growing up and soft drinks were a luxury.

At her age that is incredible... I have never heard the likes of anyone so young in need of that many fillings. Could it really be down to sweets and soft drinks? Maybe they just weren't formed right when she was little or something.

Bit by this...

39 you say , I always put you down for 27.I've never had a filling either,though I lost a tooth years ago running into a fist.

Tayla

sunflower27 wrote: »

At her age that is incredible... I have never heard the likes of anyone so young in need of that many fillings. Could it really be down to sweets and soft drinks? Maybe they just weren't formed right when she was little or something.

Bit by this...

I've heard of teeth being so damaged at a young age when the person has an eating disorder because all the acid from the constant vomiting eats away at the teeth.

I would imagine it is definitely possible that it could have been caused by drinking coca cola all the time and not brushing her teeth.

maxfresh

I think some people just have teeth that decay easily,( i know fizzy drinks dont help) could this girl not go to the dental hospital and have student dentists fill her teeth

Tayla

maxfresh wrote: »

I think some people just have teeth that decay easily,( i know fizzy drinks dont help) could this girl not go to the dental hospital and have student dentists fill her teeth

I agree with what you've said there but if your teeth decay easily then fizzy drinks have to go!

Womens teeth can get very weak when they're pregnant and so they have to take extra care of them then.

maxfresh

I agree , and proper cleaning helps ,i've 5 fillings got them all before my teens , am 30 now :eek: and havn't had any cavities since then

Tayla

maxfresh wrote: »

I agree , and proper cleaning helps ,i've 5 fillings got them all before my teens , am 30 now :eek: and havn't had any cavities since then

Me too, got 3 when I was younger but none since! It's such a pity we don't get new teeth when we hit our teenage years when we have the sense to look after them but then we'd look ridiculous going around all gummy waiting for them to come in

ejmaztec

Tayla wrote: »

I agree with what you've said there but if your teeth decay easily then fizzy drinks have to go!

Womens teeth can get very weak when they're pregnant and so they have to take extra care of them then.

Don't they make jars for that?

sunflower27

Is it not painful when you have a filling and that is how you know to get it looked at?

14 at once - she must have been in a good bit of pain. Again, no experience of them, but I'd have thought you wouldn't suddenly wake to 14 fillings needed.

Surprised to hear how much damage sweets/soft drinkscan cause. Am glad now I was deprived as a child;)

Mattjack - no, 27 is my lucky number, not my age

MagicMarker

WTF? I used to drink about 2 litres of coke a day as a teenager, I went to the dentist for the first time in my life at 25 years old and I needed one filling.

That girl must be brushing her teeth with sugar.

Jess16

The number of people here with superiority complexes for simply paying their taxes never fails to astound me. The most amusing thing being the hostility they bear towards the easy targets and not the ones calling the shots at the top.

El Weirdo

A couple of things:

There was no mention of her parents being on the dole. Is it possible that they have a large family and are both working and on a low income? They could have 5/6 kids so they might still be entitled to the medical card.

Also, I didn't see if they were original Ugg boots. They could just be cheap knock-offs. She could even have paid for them out of some money she got from a part-time job.

Just sayin'.

Mind you, having that many teeth rotted away at that age is just wrong.

Raging_Ninja

I once got a filling.

sunflower27

Jess16 wrote: »

The number of people here with superiority complexes for simply paying their taxes never fails to astound me. The most amusing thing being the hostility they bear towards the easy targets and not the ones calling the shots at the top.

Eh, I think most people (myself included) are astounded a girl that young could need that many fillings in the first place.

I am certainly not advocating she gets her teeth extracted.

Tayla

ejmaztec wrote: »

Don't they make jars for that?

What do you mean

Dotrel

Fromthetrees wrote: »

I love coca cola and my teeth are shagged.

Just switch to pepsi. I hear that's good for teeth.

Logical Fallacy

Chinasea wrote: »

Six One News: Teenage girl may lose 14 teeth - Video - RT News Player#

I am not buying this and I think there is a twofold agenda here.

One it is the dentists pleading poverty and the other is an over exagerated tale of woe by a family who have a medical card and all the other many "entitelments" that go with it.

How can you need so many fillings at this age? is it neglect? is it a diet of coca cola and junk.

ps: tell me you are poor when you don't plonk yourself up on the dentist chair with a big old expensive pair of Ugg boots on paid from your parents dole money.

So many assumptions.

You should really be a journo for the Sunday Indo or something.

DublinWriter

Chinasea wrote: »

How can you need so many fillings at this age? is it neglect? is it a diet of coca cola and junk.

Some people seem to be more susceptible than others.

I had about 10+ fillings when I was her age and in 1980 sweets and fizzy drinks were a once a week treat.

Years later when I was in London having lunch with a bunch of Brits and Indian ex-pats, one of the Indians teased us about the amount of dental work we whites seemed to be constantly getting. As asked him what the secret was, and he said in India people usually rinse their mouth with water at the table after every course (swallow, not spit!).

maxfresh

El Weirdo wrote: »

A couple of things:

There was no mention of her parents being on the dole. Is it possible that they have a large family and are both working and on a low income? They could have 5/6 kids so they might still be entitled to the medical card.

Also, I didn't see if they were original Ugg boots. They could just be cheap knock-offs. She could even have paid for them out of some money she got from a part-time job.

Just sayin'.

Mind you, having that many teeth rotted away at that age is just wrong.

Medical card only entitles you to 2 fillings per year.

Dotrel

Chinasea wrote: »

How can you need so many fillings at this age? is it neglect? is it a diet of coca cola and junk.

My first thought was she's a habitual vomiter. That'll do more damage to your teeth than coca-cola.

Minstrel27

It makes no sense to not allow fillings even when they are cheaper.

El Weirdo

maxfresh wrote: »

Medical card only entitles you to 2 fillings per year.

Erm, I got that from the video in the OP.

That wasn't the point of my post.

amacca

OP...I have sent you several pms now containing my bank details and reminders

I believe a reasonable amount of time has elapsed


now where the fcuk is my money for coca cola and ugg boots?

RichieC

sunflower27 wrote: »

Is it not painful when you have a filling and that is how you know to get it looked at?

No, it will be painful if the cavity makes it into the root where air can get at it. otherwise you won't know about it unless you look.

El_Dangeroso

Tooth decay is multifactorial, but largely down to childhood nutrition and genetics.

More about what you don't eat that what you do. Teeth constantly re-mineralise themselves through saliva, it's when the raw materials for re-mineralisation aren't available (magnesium, calcium, vitamins A, D, K) that sugar can really start to do a lot of damage.

I have genetically very week teeth, both parents had dentures at a very young age and I was no different, have fillings, one crown, one bridge and one implant.

When I started supplementing with the necessary raw materials and started brushing with a glycerin-free tooth powder (glycerin clings to teeth to try and keep bacteria away but also prevents re-mineralisation) the tooth decay finally stopped.

I had to research all this myself because believe it or not, it's not really in a dentist's interest to prevent decay (understandably!)

Bit of a propaganda piece methinks.

ballsymchugh

Kasabian wrote: »

I pay a small fortune on PRSI yet I can't get a filling without forking out €80.

PRSI is just another tax. you get nothing for it anymore.

Tayla wrote: »

Womens teeth can get very weak when they're pregnant and so they have to take extra care of them then.

i don't know where this idea originated. once your teeth are formed, that's it. if they get weak, it's due to poor diet and hygiene, unless there's already a genetic reason for it (amelogenesis imperfecta) which causes issues long before pregnancy.
calcium leaches out of enamel through the process of tooth decay (which is easily replaced by fluoride in toothpaste and water) but it doesn't leach out due to pregnancy.
and what el dageroso said, remineralisation occurs via saliva, once the acid has been buffered.

Kasabian

ballsymchugh wrote: »

PRSI is just another tax. you get nothing for it anymore.

That is my point. PRSI is a tax on the working man where no value is returned. Maybe when I am 67 I might get a measily pension!!. I'll let ye know.

Lollipops23

She must not be brushing her teeth properly- as others mentioned, we all ate an abundance of sugar in our teens and most of us have 1 or 2 fillings ( i have 2 and about to have 2 more).
But at 16 to have 14 fillings?? Even with poor teeth, her dental hygiene must suck.

wonderfulname

She would have gotten free dental work with the HSE, no funny clauses, right up until her 16th birthday. No matter how bad her teeth are genetically, 14 of them don't just up and decide to need filling within a matter of months, her or her parents are to blame to a degree.

How many fillings should you normally need annually after your 16th birthday? I would have thought 2 a year was high.

super_furry

She'd be better of going up the North and having it done privately anyway. Irish dental prices are absolutely insane.

Irish Guitarist

When I was sixteen (which admittedly was nineteen years ago) I applied for and was given a medical card. Both my parents were working at the time.

Don't let that stop you making assumptions about people based on their footwear though.

Chinasea

I think to get 2 free fillings a year is bloody good enough. Hmmm the country is broke which some people still don't seem to realise.

The workers don't get this, seems a little bit unfair to me and as a worker I would struggle to buy a pair of Ugg boots.

I am tired of listenting to tales of woe from people on medical cards that get plenty i.e. two free fillings a year, an extraction etc., when the workers get sweet f all.

El Weirdo

Chinasea wrote: »

I think to get 2 free fillings a year is bloody good enough. Hmmm the country is broke which some people still don't seem to realise.

The workers don't get this, seems a little bit unfair to me and as a worker I would struggle to buy a pair of Ugg boots.

I am tired of listenting to tales of woe from people on medical cards that get plenty i.e. two free fillings a year, an extraction etc., when the workers get sweet f all.

Please tell me how you know for sure that this girls' parents don't work. Or that she doesn't have a part-time job herself?

phasers

Those Uggs aren't real.

That's all, back to your ranting.

Chinasea

El Weirdo wrote: »

Please tell me how you know for sure that this girls' parents don't work. Or that she doesn't have a part-time job herself?

Great if they have jobs then why don't they pay like the rest of us who don't have medical cards but who would be delighted with and who could really do with getting two free fillings a year.

El Weirdo

Chinasea wrote: »

Great if they have jobs then why don't they pay like the rest of us who don't have medical cards but who would be delighted with and who could really do with getting two free fillings a year.

Because they may be on a low income with a large family.

chiloutus

It's funny how nobody here has mentioned the fact that the tooth decay has come about from a severe gum infection (which is mentioned in the 1st 30 seconds of the video FFS) which can go unnoticed and just passed off as "just weak gums" for months and will do severe damage to teeth in a short space of time.

Honestly I feel like I just stepped into the daily mail comments section here. Taking what information you need to pursue your argument and leaving the rest is just childish

YouTookMyName

Sounds like shauna needs a decent toothbrush and euthymol toothpaste for christmas.

ballsymchugh

chiloutus wrote: »

It's funny how nobody here has mentioned the fact that the tooth decay has come about from a severe gum infection (which is mentioned in the 1st 30 seconds of the video FFS) which can go unnoticed and just passed off as "just weak gums" for months and will do severe damage to teeth in a short space of time.

Honestly I feel like I just stepped into the daily mail comments section here. Taking what information you need to pursue your argument and leaving the rest is just childish

because that's not what was mentioned.

she got a gum infection from tooth decay. you don't get tooth decay from a gum infection, only from a shyte diet and poor hygiene.
so while you may complain about other posters jumping to whatever conclusions, make sure you get the info right yourself.

Tayla

ballsymchugh wrote: »

i don't know where this idea originated. once your teeth are formed, that's it. if they get weak, it's due to poor diet and hygiene, unless there's already a genetic reason for it (amelogenesis imperfecta) which causes issues long before pregnancy.
calcium leaches out of enamel through the process of tooth decay (which is easily replaced by fluoride in toothpaste and water) but it doesn't leach out due to pregnancy.

We'll agree to disagree on that one then, I've heard of several reasons for it apart from poor diet and hygiene.

ballsymchugh

Tayla wrote: »

We'll agree to disagree on that one then, I've heard of several reasons for it apart from poor diet and hygiene.

but you're still wrong.

you've heard, i know.

Fart

I think I found her on Facebook.


Yuuusss!!!

Tayla

ballsymchugh wrote: »

but you're still wrong.

There have been countless studies done on this and all the problems pregnant women can have with their teeth and gums.

ballsymchugh

Tayla wrote: »

There have been countless studies done on this and all the problems pregnant women can have with their teeth and gums.

pregnancy affects the gums alright, hormonal changes causes increased blood flow to them making them more susceptible to bleeding and mild gum disease, depending on the oral hygiene condition, but that's not the same as tooth decay.

mickdw

Ive been drinking coke as long as I can remember in large quantities and have no fillings and am in my 30s. Im also quite fond of crisps and chocolate.

wonderfulname

mickdw wrote: »

Ive been drinking coke as long as I can remember in large quantities and have no fillings and am in my 30s. Im also quite fond of crisps and chocolate.

Bet you're also fond of dental hygiene...

Tayla

ballsymchugh wrote: »

pregnancy affects the gums alright, hormonal changes causes increased blood flow to them making them more susceptible to bleeding and mild gum disease, depending on the oral hygiene condition, but that's not the same as tooth decay.

All I said was that womens teeth can be weaker when they're pregnant so they have to take extra care of them, I didn't say that their teeth will start decaying because they're pregnant.

They can be weaker, yep it's caused by other factors (not just your teeth suddenly becoming weaker) but I only made the point in response to someone saying that some peoples teeth probably decay easier than others and I was just pointing out the importance of taking extra care of them while pregnant!