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Would you marry a religious person?

  • 28-11-2011 2:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,729 ✭✭✭✭


    Now obviously, I think it depends a lot on the person, how religious they are, how they practise their faith, etc... But would a person being religious be something to put you off them in terms of a relationship?

    I wouldn't really have a problem with it. I mean, to me it's the same as if a girl I met believed in ghosts, psychics or Tarot cards and the like. But I think definite issues would arise when it comes to wedding, kids etc. I'd rather not get married in a church in a Catholic ceremony, but it's something I could probably go along with, though it'd have to be one hell of a woman. However, I don't want any kids to be baptised or raised in any religion. When they're old enough, they're free to choose whatever religion they want, or to not practise any religion. But if I married a catholic woman, this would obviously be an issue.

    So knowing that someone is fairly religious and is expecting big catholic church wedding, christening, communion etc, would that put you off?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    Nope I wouldn't.

    Is this not much the same as the "would you date a religious person" thread of recent times? Surely the same reasons would apply? Or would you date one, but draw the line at marrying one? :pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    The term "religious person" makes it sound like religion would be a part of their lives, as opposed to some wishy washy cultural thing most Irish people are.

    In that instance I'd hypothetically (I'm already married!) say no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭johnners2981


    Malari wrote: »
    Nope I wouldn't.

    Is this not much the same as the "would you date a religious person" thread of recent times? Surely the same reasons would apply? Or would you date one, but draw the line at marrying one? :pac:

    If you were dating someone really hot and really religious and they won't have sex before marriage, I think then it might be worth a quick one night marriage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    I'd say no, if we're talking about Religious as in goes to mass every Sunday, sees communion and confirmation as important, and actually believes that a supreme being guides them. If we're talking about a cultural catholic who goes along with it for a quiet life then I'd say maybe; they'd have to agree to leave baptism, communion and confirmation for the children to decide themselves, and there's no way in 7 hells that I'll be getting married in a church.

    I think that, in general, I'd be happier with an athiest. There probably would be fewer rows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Depends on how religious they are really.

    I don't really see myself falling for someone who's a hardcore Evangelist, but I was engaged to a woman who was Catholic, though not exactly a strict follower.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,729 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    kylith wrote: »
    I'd say no, if we're talking about Religious as in goes to mass every Sunday, sees communion and confirmation as important, and actually believes that a supreme being guides them. If we're talking about a cultural catholic who goes along with it for a quiet life then I'd say maybe; they'd have to agree to leave baptism, communion and confirmation for the children to decide themselves, and there's no way in 7 hells that I'll be getting married in a church.

    I think that, in general, I'd be happier with an athiest. There probably would be fewer rows.

    That's probably the same as me. I mean, getting married in a church, if that was the only thing I had to do to agree to keep any potential children away from religion (baptism, communion etc), I could go along with that, because at least we're both making a sacrifice about what we believe to compromise. But generally, I'd say no, that I wouldn't marry someone religious or who would be expecting us to go to Mass, even just on special days like Christmas or Good Friday etc.

    Not only that, but I enjoy talking about atheism, so if I could meet a girl who's into that, bamchickawahwah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,427 ✭✭✭Morag


    Depends on the religion and how fervent they are and what level of dominionism they subscribe to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    kylith wrote: »
    I'd say no, if we're talking about Religious as in goes to mass every Sunday, sees communion and confirmation as important, and actually believes that a supreme being guides them. If we're talking about a cultural catholic who goes along with it for a quiet life then I'd say maybe; they'd have to agree to leave baptism, communion and confirmation for the children to decide themselves, and there's no way in 7 hells that I'll be getting married in a church.
    Yeah, that describes me pretty much to a T.

    I would be (as described by others) a staunch atheist, and the OH would be somewhat of a cultural catholic.

    I decided that, once things got serious and talking about marriage/kids etc, that I wouldnt get married in a church, and that no way in hell (pun intended) would any children of mine be baptised etc , unless they were of consenting age and decided of their own free will to do so. That was a fun discussion, especially with the "wont you think of the parents" angle.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Relatedy:


    How to ask one question, but mean another:
    http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-best-questions-for-first-dates/

    How the religious and non-religious match up:
    http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/how-races-and-religions-match-in-online-dating/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    If you were dating someone really hot and really religious and...

    I'll stop you there, because I wouldn't be dating anyone really religious either. Like Kylith said really.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭fungun


    did you see the same thread on the Christianity forum? :eek:

    Im ok with a practising religious person as long as i dont have to get out of bed on a Sunday morning. Or Saturday to be less discriminatory. Or even Friday (except for work).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    I could not do it. It would not even have to be a particularly religious person, but obviously the more religious the more difficult it would be.

    Just think of the problems. First of all, kids. Nightmare.

    But I think that would pale into insignificance when compared with the problem with respect. I simply would not be able to respect them. My respect would be inversely proportional to their religiosity.

    MrP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    I would, I would just tell her that her religion commands her to obey her husband and then do what ever I want.

    Ah religion :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭sephir0th


    Zombrex wrote: »
    I would, I would just tell her that her religion commands her to obey her husband and then do what ever I want.

    Ah religion :pac:

    You copied that rule off Islam cheater


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    sephir0th wrote: »
    You copied that rule off Islam cheater

    I think they all say that, or something like that. Advantage of being made up by men rather than women I suppose. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,729 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    MrPudding wrote: »
    I could not do it. It would not even have to be a particularly religious person, but obviously the more religious the more difficult it would be.

    Just think of the problems. First of all, kids. Nightmare.

    But I think that would pale into insignificance when compared with the problem with respect. I simply would not be able to respect them. My respect would be inversely proportional to their religiosity.

    MrP

    That's something I wonder about as well, though it depends on the person. But even if they believed in ghosts or psychics, I'd find it hard to take anything she said seriously.

    "Oh, you say there was a crash on the motorway today? Did you see any evidence for it, or did a psychic just tell you it was going to happen?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,792 ✭✭✭Mark Hamill


    I would marry a religious person. I understand the worries that people have in relation to kids, but I am approaching this from the point of view that this is a religious person who has deemed it acceptable to marry me, so convincing them that the kids should be brought up to make their own minds up shouldn't be an issue. This isn't a hypothetical either, my girlfriend is muslim and we have discussed this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    I don't think I would have ever married a religious person because I don't find religiosity a particularly attractive trait - and quite frankly life is so much easier when the whole church wedding, christening the kids, christmas mass type nonsense/debate is not even a consideration...if they were devoutly religious I doubt we'd be having a second date, never mind to the point of getting married! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 62 ✭✭mooliki


    For me, the idea of marraige would only be considered if it was important to the other person anyway. The act, either in the ceremonial or legal sense, is one i would put little importance in. But aside from that, it would very much depend on the person and what role their faith plays in their life. If it's someone who's idea of religion is based purely on adhering to learnt dogma and would impose their beliefs on others, then i would imagine that would cause issues. But if it's someone who views their faith as a personal thing or would see the idea of the church as more of a form of community, then that I could live with. I would generally think more highly of someone who has developed their own genuine passion for whatever faith they hold, yet still interact with the world in a rational way (aware of how closely that borders on irony), than someone who doesn't really believe but still follows whatever religious ritual they've been taught, "just in case".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    I did marry a religous person, different time though ( thats my excuse) kids baptised , but I found that if you state your beliefs without making a big deal over time it has an effect. Only one of our kids is now a catholic and really a cultural one at that, though her son of eight is also a catholic. He asked recently why I did'nt attend mass and I said I did'nt believe and he was ok with that. He goes to a multi-denominational school and so it is no big deal to him. That is the key really, to get enough schools out of the hands of the church.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    I don't think I could to be honest. Obviously it depends on how religious she is and all that but I've gone out with some religious people in the past and its always come up as a divisive thing. I'm quite fond of irreligious and blasphemous humour and that just doesn't go down well with some people. A sense of humour is something I'd need to share with someone to go out with them for an extended period of time. So I suppose it's not directly the religious thing, more the sense of humour. But even so, I doubt any religious woman who is tolerant of religion jokes would put up with them indefinitely.

    I don't intend to marry in a church if I ever do either, nor would any kids be put near a baptismal font of any kind until they can make the decision themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    No way in hell (excuse the pun) would I marry a religious person. I spent too many years of my life trying to get free of that BS just to be thrown back into it again. Tbh I'd find it pretty difficult to respect my spouse if he actually believed there was some dude in the sky watching his every move. Also, he'd probably get annoyed at me ripping the piss out of his beliefs all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭ArtSmart


    Marry?

    hmmm.

    dont mind a bit of dressing up in nun's gear and that kind of thing.

    but marry?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    Zombrex wrote: »
    I would, I would just tell her that her religion commands her to obey her husband and then do what ever I want.

    Ah religion :pac:

    Ah... the one-eye take of the atheist!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    To look at it another way- there is no way in hell a religious woman would marry me!!:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,729 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Newsite wrote: »
    Zombrex wrote: »
    I would, I would just tell her that her religion commands her to obey her husband and then do what ever I want.

    Ah religion :pac:

    Ah... the one-eye take of the atheist!

    Could have sworn that said 'one-eye snake'...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    To look at it another way- there is no way in hell a religious woman would marry me!!:)

    Likewise :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Well, If she's hot I'll marry her without question. But in general as long as their religiosity doesn't impact upon the relationship, I'd have no issue. Although, you will run into the issues of baptism and the likes etc. Although if she's Jewish, I'll happily read a speech for the kid's Barmitsfah in a frasieresque manner. (However you spell it.)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 820 ✭✭✭Newsite


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Well, If she's hot I'll marry her without question. But in general as long as their religiosity doesn't impact upon the relationship, I'd have no issue. Although, you will run into the issues of baptism and the likes etc. Although if she's Jewish, I'll happily read a speech for the kid's Barmitsfah in a frasieresque manner. (However you spell it.)

    Interesting.

    If you met someone you really liked, but they turned to you one day and said 'your unbelief is having an impact on us, don't know if it's going to work out', you'd be cool and respect that, right?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Newsite wrote: »
    Interesting.

    If you met someone you really liked, but they turned to you one day and said 'your unbelief is having an impact on us, don't know if it's going to work out', you'd be cool and respect that, right?

    Well, I'm hardly going to start believing all of a sudden. So, yes if they did have such an intolerable issue with it, I'd be okay with the decision of breaking up. But i've yet to run into this issue. There's plenty of marriages between people of different faiths which work out perfectly well...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Not if it was organised religion. My husband and I have both had very similar religious journeys. Raised Catholic, though his parents believe in ways that mine do not, became interested in neo-paganism/pantheism as teenagers but both ended up believing in none of it by our 20s.

    Yet I know that he'd probably have gone along with a church wedding and would baptise any children we might have if that's what I wanted and that alone sort of pisses me off. If he believed in paganism still, or something along similar live and let live lines, with no lifelong membership of a corrupt massive organisation for our children I'd probably be ok with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Not a chance. But then again I don't want to marry an atheist/agnostic either. Contractual love ... bleh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    ShooterSF wrote: »
    Not a chance. But then again I don't want to marry an atheist/agnostic either. Contractual love ... bleh.

    Indeed, because everyone knows that atheists don't have souls and are therefore incapable of love :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    One of the benefits of being gay- less religious nuts to worry about!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    efb wrote: »
    One of the benefits of being gay- less religious nuts to worry about!

    Just have to worry about the nuts ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Siuin wrote: »
    Just have to worry about the nuts ;)

    Never a worry! They call me the nut-cracker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,023 ✭✭✭Tim Robbins


    If the person is very Christian, they should not be marrying you as (St.) Paul advised Christians to stay away from us.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    pious woman/man is greatest wealth of this world -- It is a thing which material desires couldn't measure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    dead one wrote: »
    pious woman/man is greatest wealth of this world -- It is a thing which material desires couldn't measure

    This just made me laugh so much.... it's exactly the kind of chat-up lines I keep getting (mostly from African men, I have to say) on a dating website where my profile clearly states that I'm married and I'm just looking for some NSA fun now and then.

    I never understood why people send that stuff, maybe you could explain that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Shenshen wrote: »
    it's exactly the kind of chat-up lines I keep getting (mostly from African men, I have to say) on a dating website where my profile clearly states that I'm married and I'm just looking for some NSA fun now and then.

    I never understood why people send that stuff, maybe you could explain that?
    right, first explain me, why do you have a profile on dating site -- where your profile is clearly saying that you are married -- I mean you're a married person with profile on dating site -- See what i have written above
    - It is a thing which material desires couldn't measure
    It needs wisdom to understand wisdom


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Shenshen wrote: »
    This just made me laugh so much.... it's exactly the kind of chat-up lines I keep getting (mostly from African men, I have to say) on a dating website where my profile clearly states that I'm married and I'm just looking for some NSA fun now and then.

    You're cheating on your husband, yet you still think you're too good for an African man...?
    Riiiiight


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    how hot and/or bendy is she?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    dead one wrote: »
    pious woman/man is greatest wealth of this world -- It is a thing which material desires couldn't measure

    i bet your parties are great craic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Siuin wrote: »
    You're cheating on your husband, yet you still think you're too good for an African man...?
    Riiiiight

    Who says I'm cheating? My husband's on that site as well.
    We've always been open.

    And no, not too good. Just not available to marry.
    And certainly not the type to fall for a religious chat-up line.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    i bet your parties are great craic
    you bet not,
    There are no parties here
    The parties aren't here

    "Between the idea
    And the reality
    Between the motion
    And the act
    Falls the Shadow

    For Thine is the Kingdom

    Between the conception
    And the creation
    Between the emotion
    And the response
    Falls the Shadow


    Life is very long

    Between the desire
    And the spasm
    Between the potency
    And the existence
    Between the essence
    And the descent
    Falls the Shadow"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    dead one wrote: »
    right, first explain me, why do you have a profile on dating site -- where your profile is clearly saying that you are married -- I mean you're a married person with profile on dating site -- See what i have written above

    It needs wisdom to understand wisdom

    I thought I already explained? Because my husband and I have had an open relationship for years now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Shenshen wrote: »
    Who says I'm cheating? My husband's on that site as well.
    We've always been open.

    And no, not too good. Just not available to marry.

    Wow. That's... something... special :S


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    dead one wrote: »
    There are no parties here
    Probably just as well since there'd be nothing to drink there 'cept orange juice and water.

    Lay off the bad poetry, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Siuin wrote: »
    Wow. That's... something... special :S

    TBH, you'd be surprised... only in Ireland, people look for these kind of partners online, as there are some massive social barriers in offline life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Shenshen wrote: »
    TBH, you'd be surprised... only in Ireland, people look for these kind of partners online, as there are some massive social barriers in offline life.

    Huh! Tbh if a guy was messaging me about sex, I think my boyfriend would chop off his cóck :P But each to their own!


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