Sky Sports F1

Infoanon

Breaking news that Sky are launching a dedicated HD sports channel for its F1 coverage.

Is this going to be another Sky Atlantic situation where they are not going to provide the channel to UPC and other cable customers ?

In the press release they refer to a HD version only and as we know UPC have not been given the rights to provide SS in HD....

Joekers

They said on sky sports news thats there will be a standard def aswell, if we get it on upc I dont know

smurf22

This from sky doesnt surprise me, this is why everyone for years has been worried about sky getting the rights to f1, They've now made up their own channel so that the likes of UPC and Virgin Media f1 fans will have to subscribe to their rip off service to see the full season of f1.

I was with sky for 4 years and i left for a reason, within those 4 years my bill had gone up 11 euro a month and i was still on the exact same package, their a complete rip off, and whats worse is they rip us off way more in our country compared to the UK Countries.

The Irish rights for f1 are up for discussion after the last race this week, now that Setanta dont have a HD channel anymore lets hope RTE will express an intrest in f1 for next year as they tried to get it for this year.

Minstrel27

smurf22 wrote: »

This from sky doesnt surprise me, this is why everyone for years has been worried about sky getting the rights to f1, They've now made up their own channel so that the likes of UPC and Virgin Media f1 fans will have to subscribe to their rip off service to see the full season of f1.

You know for a fact that the F1 channel will not be offered to other providers?

smurf22 wrote: »

The Irish rights for f1 are up for discussion after the last race this week, now that Setanta dont have a HD channel anymore lets hope RTE will express an intrest in f1 for next year as they tried to get it for this year.

Setanta don't have a HD channel? I thought it was a UPC exclusive, same way that you are saying that Sky F1 will be exclusive to Sky.

icdg

If Bernie Eccelstone has anything to do with it, I'd imagine it will be offered to other platforms. It would be bad enough for the sponsors that bankroll F1 that the sport would be on pay-TV only, without it also being restricted to one particular pay-TV platform.

I'd imagine that at the very least Virgin Media will get the channel. Whether UPC get it is another question entirely.

I'd also lay any number of bets that Setanta's deal with Formula One will not be renewed and that the Irish rights will also go to Sky, if that has not already been agreed at least on an informal basis.. Now that Sky's in the game they will not want Setanta involved too.

Infoanon

icdg wrote: »

If Bernie Eccelstone has anything to do with it, I'd imagine it will be offered to other platforms. It would be bad enough for the sponsors that bankroll F1 that the sport would be on pay-TV only, without it also being restricted to one particular pay-TV platform.

I'd imagine that at the very least Virgin Media will get the channel. Whether UPC get it is another question entirely.

I'd also lay any number of bets that Setanta's deal with Formula One will not be renewed and that the Irish rights will also go to Sky, if that has not already been agreed at least on an informal basis.. Now that Sky's in the game they will not want Setanta involved too.

Think its a foregone conclusion that Sky have the Irish rights - how could an Irish channel compete against commercial free F1 coverage ?
Setanta got the coverage when ITV had the UK rights - BBC getting the rights was the death knell - in fact Setanta now simply relay BBCs coverage.
There has been mention of freeview carriage in the UK and to avoid adverse publicity I can see Virgin getting carriage, I fear though for UPC - Sky could use this as another battering ram and Bernie will not be too bothered about Irish TV rights...

Minstrel27

Infoanon wrote: »

in fact Setanta now simply relay BBCs coverage.

Is it actually BBC coverage or is it the F1 World Feed? The World Feed has BBC commentators.

Setanta said they have rights for next year so UPC customers wont be missing out on F1 regardless of what happens.

Infoanon

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Is it actually BBC coverage or is it the F1 World Feed? The World Feed has BBC commentators.

Setanta said they have rights for next year so UPC customers wont be missing out on F1 regardless of what happens.

World feed ie the only difference is Setanta dont include the EJ and Jake contributions.

Have Setanta confirmed they have 2012 rights ? Its possible as the BBC are giving up the rights a year early but......I live in hope but won't believe it until I see it on screen in March 2012.

Setanta have scaled back their F1 coverage dramatically over the last year

Minstrel27

Infoanon wrote: »

Have Setanta confirmed they have 2012 rights ?

They did on Twitter a few months ago

doubledown wrote: »

Setanta have tweeted that they will be broadcasting F1 next season. No idea which commentary they will be using though. This year they have dropped Declan Quigley and David Kennedy and are showing the pictures from the world feed and the audio from the BBC.

http://twitter.com/#!/SetantaSports

ted1

They might show it but. It may not be live.

icdg

Infoanon wrote: »

World feed ie the only difference is Setanta dont include the EJ and Jake contributions.

Have Setanta confirmed they have 2012 rights ? Its possible as the BBC are giving up the rights a year early but......I live in hope but won't believe it until I see it on screen in March 2012.

Oddly, during qualifying, Setanta do take the audio when it returns to Humphreys and Jordan between Q1 & Q2 and Q2 & Q3. The picture stays with the world feed though.

Now I was on the understanding that Setanta had one year left in their contract, but I could be mistaken. I thought their scheduling yesterday when they elected to put the qualifying on Setanta Sports 1 (which you have to pay extra for on UPC) and Manchester United v Newcastle on Setanta Ireland was absolutely daft from their own point of view, though I'm sure the hoardes of United fans were very grateful. But why they would do this when all UPC (and Sky) customers have BBC One anyway I don't know.

Infoanon

icdg wrote: »

I thought their scheduling yesterday when they elected to put the qualifying on Setanta Sports 1 (which you have to pay extra for on UPC) and Manchester United v Newcastle on Setanta Ireland was absolutely daft from their own point of view, though I'm sure the hoardes of United fans were very grateful. But why they would do this when all UPC (and Sky) customers have BBC One anyway I don't know.

Very unusual for Setanta to have the ManU games on SSIreland, I believe its the same for the next ManU game.

Maybe advertising income for showing ManU games on SSIre is greater then the subscription income from SS1 ? looking at the listings all the 'prime' sports are on SSIreland which is a definite shift in strategy.

EPL rights are up this season(11/12) afaik - expect RTE/Sky to attempt to get them again (wonder will TG4 try another bold move !)

Now have to wait until March 16/17/18 to see if UPC will carry SSF1

Minstrel27

ted1 wrote: »

They might show it but. It may not be live.

Why wouldn't they show it live if their current contract hasn't expired?

scottyccfc

Any news on this for UPC?

deanh

scottyccfc wrote: »

Any news on this for UPC?

There is no news on it being available on a non- Sky platform.

djimi

I spoke to UPC sales during the week and was told that they would definately be carrying this channel. I take that with a massive pinch of salt however as I was also told that they would definately have Sky Sports HD in time for the start of the 2010-11 PL season...

smurf22

djimi wrote: »

I spoke to UPC sales during the week and was told that they would definately be carrying this channel. I take that with a massive pinch of salt however as I was also told that they would definately have Sky Sports HD in time for the start of the 2010-11 PL season...

I just cant get my head around how much disrespect this company shows its customers by lying all the time.

Theres not a chance Sky F1 HD being on UPC.

Sure they cant even get Sky Atlantic (SD) on the channel list

forzacalcio

smurf22 wrote: »

I just cant get my head around how much disrespect this company shows its customers by lying all the time.

Theres not a chance Sky F1 HD being on UPC.

Sure they cant even get Sky Atlantic (SD) on the channel list

There is a difference, Sky Atlantic is free so they wouldnt gain anything by giving it to UPC, SKYF1 on the other hand will entice more customers to get Sky Sports and pay 33 Euro a Month extra. They wouldnt have paid all that money and not try and recoup it as quick as possible,

An Tarbh

Well Sky Atlantic is far from free but that's another story.

As for Sky Sports F1, it's purely an effort from Sky to boost their HD subscribers, you won't need to subscribe to any of the Sky Sports packages to get Sky Sports F1 HD, it will come as standard once you subscribe to the HD package. The SD version will no doubt be available on UPC and Virgin but I wouldn't bet the house on the HD version appearing any time soon.

george27

i spoke yesterday to a sky rep.and he said to wait until closer to the time as sky may offer the f1 at 7e a month or there abouts.hope this is true.as the hd pack is 15 a month.

Infoanon

george27 wrote: »

i spoke yesterday to a sky rep.and he said to wait until closer to the time as sky may offer the f1 at 7e a month or there abouts.hope this is true.as the hd pack is 15 a month.

UPC have officially stated that they are in negotiations for carriage of Sky Sports F1.

This is good news - almost certainly SD version only though - Sky have no plans to allow UPC carriage of Skys' HD channels

forzacalcio

Infoanon wrote: »

UPC have officially stated that they are in negotiations for carriage of Sky Sports F1.

This is good news - almost certainly SD version only though - Sky have no plans to allow UPC carriage of Skys' HD channels

Not doubting you but where have they officially stated this?

starfish12

Apologies - I inadvertently started another thread about this in the motorsport forum;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056509545

Basically just off the phone to UPC who told me its highly unlikely that they will have the F1 channel in March if at all

forzacalcio

starfish12 wrote: »

Apologies - I inadvertently started another thread about this in the motorsport forum;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056509545

Basically just off the phone to UPC who told me its highly unlikely that they will have the F1 channel in March if at all

That was the main reason I got Sky Sports so looks like I will be getting rid then!

I still think they will. Sky paid too much fo rthis not to get the money back.

Ranicand

I changed over to Sky a few months ago and it is a more expensive service.

Having exclusive channels is a marketing ploy in my opinion.

UPC are not really to blame here Sky are the greedy party here.

Infoanon

forzacalcio wrote: »

Not doubting you but where have they officially stated this?

Official UPC twitter feed

Infoanon

forzacalcio wrote: »

That was the main reason I got Sky Sports so looks like I will be getting rid then!

I still think they will. Sky paid too much fo rthis not to get the money back.

Sky paid the same as BBC paid previously - I would guess the marketing ploy would be to offer the channel free to get new subscribers and then make it a premium channel in a year or two.

Dodge

Infoanon wrote: »

Sky paid the same as BBC paid previously - I would guess the marketing ploy would be to offer the channel free to get new subscribers and then make it a premium channel in a year or two.

I don't think there's a market for F1 to go as a premium channel

If UPC had any clues when they're asked if they're going to carry Sky F1, they should mention that the races are live on Setanta Ireland "part of the blah bl;ah package.."

djimi

starfish12 wrote: »

Apologies - I inadvertently started another thread about this in the motorsport forum;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056509545

Basically just off the phone to UPC who told me its highly unlikely that they will have the F1 channel in March if at all

Thats interesting becaues they told me the opposite. Ill have to call them again tomorrow and see what their story is this time.

starfish12

djimi wrote: »

starfish12 wrote: »

Apologies - I inadvertently started another thread about this in the motorsport forum;

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2056509545

Basically just off the phone to UPC who told me its highly unlikely that they will have the F1 channel in March if at all

Thats interesting becaues they told me the opposite. Ill have to call them again tomorrow and see what their story is this time.

I've also asked them on twitter and been told that they are 'in negotiations' with sky and absolutely no idea when they will have a proper yes or no......at this rate am starting to think its a ploy so ppl don't give their 30 days notice to cancel before the season starts!

I've also asked setanta if they'll have build up or which channel its on (setanta ireland v setanta sports 1) and they've yet to respond

forzacalcio

I dont think Setanta will have any build up. If they do it willbe two fools in a studio in Dublin. The World Feed is the best we can hope for but I still think they wil show this on Setanta Sports 1. F1 could be on 3 channels next season at certain stages.