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Goal-line technology next season

  • 24-11-2011 3:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭


    Goal-line technology could be used as early as next season in the Premier League, according to the Football Association.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/15866363.stm

    Would you welcome it?

    goal line technology? 47 votes

    Yes
    0% 0 votes
    No
    91% 43 votes
    Maybe
    8% 4 votes


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Will I welcome it? Yes, very much
    Will it happen? Unfortunately no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭VW 1


    Absolutely. Football is too high stake, with so much money involved, to be depending on human judgment when there is a simple technology available that will remove all ambiguity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭pudzey101


    I would anyway :D referees clearly need the help so it's high time we give it to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    They should allow the technology to be monitored nad reviewed by the fourth official if a ball is deemed to have crossed the line, a bit like a TMO at rugby.

    It would take only seconds to see if it has crossed the line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭wonderboysam


    I'd miss the drama and controversy!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I would obviously welcome its introduction but I can't help but feel this is Blatter tossing a bone to those calling for an overhaul of the refereeing system. Technological assistance needs to be implemented in far more areas than at the goal-line, and I just hope Blatter doesn't use this in a sort of, 'I gave you goal-lines technology, now go away', when people are calling for technological input elsewhere in football's officiation.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    I probably wouldn't welcome it as I don't see the need for it with competent officials. Most of the clear 'controversial' decisions shouldn't need technology, such as Lampard against Germany or Carroll's mistake at Old Trafford.

    I'm still not convinced no matter how many replays I see on Gomes' mistake at Chelsea last year though for example. Swapping one thing that isn't foolproof for something else that isn't foolproof either. As far as I had read, current technology can't distinguish between player and ball. So if someone was standing over the line with one foot, but cleared the ball on the line with the other - or vice versa - would it give a false positive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    i'd welcome it but it wont happen you see.

    Its quite simple really the crowd that rule football still refuse to believe the existence of technology or the wheel for that matter. They also are firm believers that the world is flat and their cave doesn't receive electricity so they have no clue that theres even a problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭keano_afc


    It would be great if it got rid of the useless prick that stands behind the goal that we currently have. That extra official really makes my blood boil, he does absolutely NOTHING, and is never accountable for anything debatable that happens in the box. Not once have I seen a ref go to him for a second opinion or even seen him call over the ref coz he had a better view. Its not only the handiest job in football, it might just be the easiest gig in the world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    keano_afc wrote: »
    It would be great if it got rid of the useless prick that stands behind the goal that we currently have. That extra official really makes my blood boil, he does absolutely NOTHING, and is never accountable for anything debatable that happens in the box. Not once have I seen a ref go to him for a second opinion or even seen him call over the ref coz he had a better view. Its not only the handiest job in football, it might just be the easiest gig in the world.

    you didnt watch barca milan i take it, He told the ref it was a penalty


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Good to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    gavredking wrote: »
    They should allow the technology to be monitored nad reviewed by the fourth official if a ball is deemed to have crossed the line, a bit like a TMO at rugby.

    It would take only seconds to see if it has crossed the line.

    To be honest, the 4th official could do it while the game continues for a few seconds. No need to stop at all if it went in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    dfx- wrote: »
    I probably wouldn't welcome it as I don't see the need for it with competent officials. Most of the clear 'controversial' decisions shouldn't need technology, such as Lampard against Germany or Carroll's mistake at Old Trafford.

    I'm still not convinced no matter how many replays I see on Gomes' mistake at Chelsea last year though for example. Swapping one thing that isn't foolproof for something else that isn't foolproof either. As far as I had read, current technology can't distinguish between player and ball. So if someone was standing over the line with one foot, but cleared the ball on the line with the other - or vice versa - would it give a false positive?

    Should or shouldn't is irrelevant. Mistakes on the close but clear calls happen. It's not because the officials are incompetent, it's because the job is sometimes just not possible.

    If a tmo was introduced there would still be some incidents that are just impossible to decide, like you say. But there would definitely be a big improvement in the number of correct calls. Not being able to achieve perfection is a terrible reason for not trying to improve.

    Edit: I assume they'll be using video replays from cameras on the goal line. The other options are muck at the moment it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭pudzey101


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Edit: I assume they'll be using video replays from cameras on the goal line. The other options are muck at the moment it seems.

    Yeah iv heard for one, ther'l be a special chip placed inside the ball and if it crosses the line, the referee will get a signal to his watch :eek:

    Honestly laughing for about 10mins when i heard that one :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    I don't agree with extensive use of video technology in referring, however when things can be done which are instant and have no (or close to no) error, then I'm fine with it.

    I don't see why goal line technology can't work without interrupting the flow of the game, a simple beep in the ear of the ref when the ball goes over the line in any position on the pitch, easy.

    I also don't see why offside can't be computerised also, however technology might not be there yet.

    I do not agree at all with the whole idea of going to video replays. Football is a fast paced game, I don't want that changed, even if it means worse decisions.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    Pro. F wrote: »
    Should or shouldn't is irrelevant. Mistakes on the close but clear calls happen. It's not because the officials are incompetent, it's because the job is sometimes just not possible.

    If a tmo was introduced there would still be some incidents that are just impossible to decide, like you say. But there would definitely be a big improvement in the number of correct calls. Not being able to achieve perfection is a terrible reason for not trying to improve.

    If you accept mistakes can happen and will still happen, then it's no improvement on the current situation. Especially with video replays.

    I'd be very interested as to why it'd definitely be a big improvement on calls now. How many glaring Lampard-esque calls are wrong as it is now? How many close calls are completely wrong? Gallas at Anfield in 2005, that 'goal' at Watford, Mendes...

    I'd not be surprised if the success rate as is near 100% as technology can ever be. What we have now is a system that is mostly right but can be wrong. We would be changing to a system which would be mostly right but can be wrong. Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭Pro. F


    dfx- wrote: »
    If you accept mistakes can happen and will still happen, then it's no improvement on the current situation. Especially with video replays.

    That is hilarious. What a ridiculous argument. Mistakes are a bad thing, less mistakes would therefore a better situation. You can't be serious in needing that explained to you.
    dfx- wrote: »
    I'd be very interested as to why it'd definitely be a big improvement on calls now. How many glaring Lampard-esque calls are wrong as it is now? How many close calls are completely wrong? Gallas at Anfield in 2005, that 'goal' at Watford, Mendes...

    I'd not be surprised if the success rate as is near 100% as technology can ever be. What we have now is a system that is mostly right but can be wrong. We would be changing to a system which would be mostly right but can be wrong. Why?

    Absolute nonsense. You're trying to pretend that replays from good angles would only be as reliable as the officials at their awkward angles making the call on the spot. I don't have figures on how many tricky ball-across-the-line calls are made each season, but it's definitely a lot more than you are pretending.

    At the moment we have to make do with replays from poxy angles to judge the officials - the replays are still more reliable already. If replays were to be used in the officiating then the cameras used would be at much better angles, like in the goal actually looking at the line.


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