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PPL in Tecnam

  • 23-11-2011 10:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭


    Hey all, Im doing lessons in a Tecnam P92 echo. Its classed as a microlight so will I get the same PPL as if I trained in a Cessna???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,543 ✭✭✭Pataman


    Dont think so. As far as I remember you will get a PPL(M) whereas a cessne jockey would be PPL(A).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Pataman wrote: »
    Dont think so. As far as I remember you will get a PPL(M) whereas a cessne jockey would be PPL(A).

    Does that mean its no good to go to a flying collage after?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭Delancey


    Looked up the Tecnam P92 on Wiki there , it seems remarkably similar to a Cessna 152 , where is the difference ?, what causes a craft to be classed as a Microlight ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭Jesus Nut


    Delancey wrote: »
    Looked up the Tecnam P92 on Wiki there , it seems remarkably similar to a Cessna 152 , where is the difference ?, what causes a craft to be classed as a Microlight ?

    A 3-axis fixed wing aircraft is a microlight if it is below a certain weight, if its above that certain weight (a fixed weight issued by IAA) then it is classed as an aeroplane (A-class).

    O/P, you will get a microlight PPL if you continue lessons on that aircraft. Think again before you invest anymore money on those lessons because you might only be adding cost to your training if your long term goal is a commercial pilot in which case, you should focus your investment on aeroplane flying lessons like in a Cessna. Goodluck with your flying career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Jesus Nut wrote: »
    Delancey wrote: »
    Looked up the Tecnam P92 on Wiki there , it seems remarkably similar to a Cessna 152 , where is the difference ?, what causes a craft to be classed as a Microlight ?

    A 3-axis fixed wing aircraft is a microlight if it is below a certain weight, if its above that certain weight (a fixed weight issued by IAA) then it is classed as an aeroplane (A-class).

    O/P, you will get a microlight PPL if you continue lessons on that aircraft. Think again before you invest anymore money on those lessons because you might only be adding cost to your training if your long term goal is a commercial pilot in which case, you should focus your investment on aeroplane flying lessons like in a Cessna. Goodluck with your flying career.

    Thanks. If its below 450kg its a microlight. Im disappointed because the instructor was very nice and i was getting them for 100 euro each


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    Waterford Aero Club offer Tecnam P2002JF's at very reasonable rates. These are classed as group A aircraft which will entitle you to obtain a PPL (A) which will be accepted in a commercial training college.

    http://waterfordaeroclub.com/aircraft.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Flyer1 wrote: »
    Waterford Aero Club offer Tecnam P2002JF's at very reasonable rates. These are classed as group A aircraft which will entitle you to obtain a PPL (A) which will be accepted in a commercial training college.

    http://waterfordaeroclub.com/aircraft.html

    I live and work near Sligo, im trying to pay as I go. There is an aero club in Sligo as well. The fella im doing the lessons with has a Cessna 150. Would that be class A?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Flyer1 wrote: »
    Waterford Aero Club offer Tecnam P2002JF's at very reasonable rates. These are classed as group A aircraft which will entitle you to obtain a PPL (A) which will be accepted in a commercial training college.

    http://waterfordaeroclub.com/aircraft.html

    I live and work near Sligo, im trying to pay as I go. There is an aero club in Sligo as well. The fella im doing the lessons with has a Cessna 150. Would that be class A?

    I was talking to my instructor today and he said i can do 10 lessons in to tecnam and then ill have to move on to the cessna. But the 10 hours will count towards the 45 i need leaving only 35 to do in the cessna.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭Flyer1


    Yeah thats correct 10 will count towards it.

    Cessna 150 ticks all the boxes !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Flyer1 wrote: »
    Yeah thats correct 10 will count towards it.

    Cessna 150 ticks all the boxes !

    Thats good news, has made my week :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    Tecnams are great and i'm sure will one day replace all the ageing cessnas and pipers in flight schools. So much cheaper to fly and maintain.

    Going to be doing my microlight licence this summer in a Tecnam Sierra all going well. Really fun aircraft to fly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    @pclancy,
    Hold up on your suggestion that Tecnams are so wonderful that they will supplant or replace regular iron.They're very light, have had undercarriage issues and some of those in Irish club/school service have already been replaced by, you've guessed it, the regular old stuff. I like Tecnams but they're not quite the saviour of GA, just yet.

    regards
    Stovepipe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,941 ✭✭✭pclancy


    Yeah agreed, they are very light and a bit pukey in much of a wind but they have made a real difference to rural flightschools and aeroclubs that are finding it harder to keep their 150s, 172s or Tomahawks/Archers in the air due to rising fuel and certification costs. A 1970s era airframe with thousands of hours at the hands of students can really start to eat up the dollars.

    Interested in hearing more about undercarraige issues as i'll be doing some strip and beach flying and thats the last thing i'd want to fail!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Leonidas BL


    Well my first impression of the cessna is how much harder it is to fly. Felt way less responsive than the Tecnam and maybe even a bit underpowered, but I still really enjoyed it. Back to the Tecnam tomorrow :)


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