No Aaron Rodgers thread?

Time to put that one right. Do streaks get any hotter than this? Can the man keep improving his game year on year? How close to perfection will he sail?

3,100 plus yards, 4 interceptions, 31 TDs.

NFC Offensive Player of the month for both September and October, to make it 3 in a row following on from the same award in the last month of the Superbowl winning (and Superbowl MVP award winning) season. The other player to do 3 in a row was Barry Sanders in 1997.

Passer rating of 110 or more through week 11.

Stats like his intercept rating are staggering. Ability that has analysts drooling. And he plays the game with a smile and an attitude that garners even more praise. The Montana comparison is made by some including McCarthy, presumably on the basis that Montana had this aura of being "cool" while being a winner with great strength and accuracy. But not sure even Montana had a streak like this. Of course at present that is all it is, a streak, Montana made his reputation for brilliance year in year out. But he is on the way...

SantryRed

Cheers. Now he'll throw 4 picks on Thursday and the unbeaten streak will end

Justin10

Over rated, not fit to clean Favres boots

tallaghtoutlaws

No Tom Brady Thread?

Peyton Manning

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

No Tom Brady Thread?

Every thread is a Tom Brady thread! I'd love to go out for a meal with him, I think he'd treat you right and make sure you had everything you needed. He strikes me as that kind of guy.

Hulk Hands

The single most annoying thing about playing Rodgers is when you're defence actually does its job well, covers all his recievers and has a bit of pressure coming at him. Then he just darts out and runs 10 yards for the first. Plays like that are just so demoralising. He has everything

cosatron

i started following the pack when they were beaten by the bronco's in the super bowl because of brett favre and his gunslinging attitude. but a-rod is on a different level at the moment, its just his pose in the pocket and he rearly forces a throw that isn't on and i think thats his greatest attribute and plus the rumours about michelle beadle is awesome:D

D3PO

No Tyler Palko thread ?

MgarMinotaurs

Cam Newton wrote: »

Every thread is a Tom Brady thread! I'd love to go out for a meal with him, I think he'd treat you right and make sure you had everything you needed. He strikes me as that kind of guy.

He also doesn't have sex, he makes love, everytime

davyjose

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

No Tom Brady Thread?

Two Kyle Orton threads.

Fcuk yeah!!!!

Pherekydes

What's his best skill?

I think it's the accuracy of his throws while running. Bloody amazing.

I never thought as a Packers' fan that we could get a replacement for you-know-who that was better.

I think Rodgers will end up with multiple rings and league MVPs. And it looks like he's about to start breaking records, too.

eagle eye

Please lets not start having threads for QBs, its so silly. Rodgers is a great player for sure but he is part of a great team put together by a great coach. We have the Green Bay Packers thread I think thats enough.

SantryRed

SantryRed wrote: »

Cheers. Now he'll throw 4 picks on Thursday and the unbeaten streak will end

I was afraid of that. Tonight's match up v Stafford at Detroit will be interesting, he got concussed in this game last year. But still, never a wrong time to celebrate a master at work.

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

No Tom Brady Thread?

Oh there have been threads about Tom Brady. Indeed, very specific, down to his contract...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=67930498

His injury...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=59640368

We only missed a thread about his relationships I think.

cosatron wrote: »

the rumours about michelle beadle is awesome:D

Didn't she have to settle for Clay?

eagle eye wrote: »

Please lets not start having threads for QBs, its so silly.

You have contributed to threads about Tim Tebow, Joe Flacco etc. without objecting!

It's like saying we can have threads about David Villa or Wayne Rooney but no threads about Messi!

tallaghtoutlaws

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh there have been threads about Tom Brady. Indeed, very specific, down to his contract...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=67930498

His injury...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=59640368

We only missed a thread about his relationships I think.

I will use these the next time [sarcasm][/sarcasm] :D

Phoenix Park

Deleted User wrote: »

I was afraid of that. Tonight's match up v Stafford at Detroit will be interesting, he got concussed in this game last year. But still, never a wrong time to celebrate a master at work

Watching Stafford has been car-crash stuff of late. He looks rattled with the finger injury, so many crazy throws getting picked off. While its nice to see GBP come up against some decent sides for once i think they'll come through fairly comfortable today.

tallaghtoutlaws

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I will use these the next time [sarcasm][/sarcasm] :D

Aha. Way too subtle for me this early!

Next thing I'll find out eagle eye was being sarcastic too, and I'll spend the rest of the day getting this egg off my face!

spank_inferno

What do quaterback play calls mean?

Every snap Rogers takes, he shouts "Green 18!"

Does that actually mean anything?

Also.... no harm in a A-rod thread, after all we have a Tebow one.

tallaghtoutlaws

spank_inferno wrote: »

What do quaterback play calls mean?

Every snap Rogers takes, he shouts "Green 18!"

Does that actually mean anything?

Also.... no harm in a A-rod thread, after all we have a Tebow one.

Green 18 could be anything from just something he always calls to the start of his play calling or if he is using it to call a play while already lined up, or a route audible or full audible or flipping the play. There is actually so many things it could mean from game to game.

In my play calling system I use live and non live words I wont tell you what they are but non live are words the QB just shouts out to keep his cadence consistent and the live words he can throw in to change it up after checking the defense.

Wisco

Speaking of Aaron's awesomeness, would love to be able to see the game today. It's just not Thanksgiving without a Packer game. Sigh.

Johnny_Fontane

Rodgers fits balls into places Jenna Jameson would be proud of.

spank_inferno

Wisco wrote: »

Speaking of Aaron's awesomeness, would love to be able to see the game today. It's just not Thanksgiving without a Packer game. Sigh.

Fear not... Its on at 6pm on Sky Sports

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote: »

I was afraid of that. Tonight's match up v Stafford at Detroit will be interesting, he got concussed in this game last year. But still, never a wrong time to celebrate a master at work.



Oh there have been threads about Tom Brady. Indeed, very specific, down to his contract...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=67930498

His injury...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=59640368




You have contributed to threads about Tim Tebow, Joe Flacco etc. without objecting!

The first of those links is about him signing a new NFL record contract and was huge NFL news at the time. The second was an attempt at an April's fool joke.

These Flacco/Tebow threads are discussing a player who there is a split over not an appreciation thread.

Everybody agrees that Aaron Rodgers is awesome. Why do we need a thread about that? We have the Packers thread and we have the wacky and awesome world of the NFL thread.

When(and not if) Rodgers breaks the bank and becomes the best paid player in the NFL that will be news worth of a thread, if he gets a season ending injury it is probably going to have its own thread too. But just starting a thread for the sake of it is silly imo. Its like if you want to discuss him there is the Packers thread where you will be facilitated and the wacky thread too.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

The first of those links is about him signing a new NFL record contract and was huge NFL news at the time. The second was an attempt at an April's fool joke.

These Flacco/Tebow threads are discussing a player who there is a split over not an appreciation thread.

Everybody agrees that Aaron Rodgers is awesome. Why do we need a thread about that? We have the Packers thread and we have the wacky and awesome world of the NFL thread.

When(and not if) Rodgers breaks the bank and becomes the best paid player in the NFL that will be news worth of a thread, if he gets a season ending injury it is probably going to have its own thread too.

Egg off the face. You WERE being serious!

What sort of nonsense is this? We need some "incident" to discuss the brilliance of a player? What's the logic of that? One cannot simply analyse or appreciate for the sake of it? Or are you trying very hard to figure out reasons why a Flacco or Newton or Brady thread is valid but this thread is not?

Anyway, fwiw, here is your incident, he overtook Manning's passer rating record last week. A neat milestone. If you need a split to start a debate, here's one, he is a far better QB with better ability than Brady or Manning. Howzat?

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote: »

Egg off the face. You WERE being serious!

What sort of nonsense is this? We need some "incident" to discuss the brilliance of a player? What's the logic of that? One cannot simply analyse or appreciate for the sake of it? Or are you trying very hard to figure out reasons why a Flacco or Newton or Brady thread is valid but this thread is not?

Anyway, fwiw, here is your incident, he overtook Manning's passer rating record last week. A neat milestone. If you need a split to start a debate, here's one, he is a far better QB with better ability than Brady or Manning. Howzat?

I've already said the guy is awesome, brilliant. And there is no disagreement from anybody. And right now he is better than anybody else at his position. But I'm sure you can discuss that with your Packers friends in the Packers thread.

Its like you have some sort of misplaced inferiority complex or something that you so desperately want to talk about one player outside of the Packers thread.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

Its like you have some sort of misplaced inferiority complex or something that you so desperately want to talk about one player outside of the Packers thread.

:D

So you can talk about Flacco, Newton, Brady etc.

You can even go on with your psychoanalysis of me!

But heaven forbid someone would just want to celebrate a great player playing great football...

Your posts are getting more and more sensible alright there.

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote: »

:D
But heaven forbid someone would just want to celebrate a great player playing great football...

Your posts are getting more and more sensible alright there.

Why woud you want to discuss one player playing great football when there are so many doing it on the team? Why would you have a thread specifically for him? Ergo the Green Bay Packers thread where you can and have been discussing Rodgers as well as everybody else who are having great seasons and lets not forget Mike McCarthy.

I suppose none of them cause a rise in your Levis though.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

Why woud you want to discuss one player playing great football when there are so many doing it on the team? Why would you have a thread specifically for him? Ergo the Green Bay Packers thread where you can and have been discussing Rodgers as well as everybody else who are having great seasons and lets not forget Mike McCarthy.

I suppose none of them cause a rise in your Levis though.

Why do you want to be a mini moderator here?

Why?

Why do you feel the need to dictate what threads can and cannot be opened?

Why? Why?

I won't even start on the questions it raises about inferiority and erections!

bruschi

eagle eye wrote: »

Why woud you want to discuss one player playing great football when there are so many doing it on the team? Why would you have a thread specifically for him? Ergo the Green Bay Packers thread where you can and have been discussing Rodgers as well as everybody else who are having great seasons and lets not forget Mike McCarthy.

I suppose none of them cause a rise in your Levis though.

are you the thread police or something? on here asking why is there a thread on the best player in NFL right now. and previously asking why Cams classics has that title and why it should be changed. who cares? its a public forum that people discuss things on. if you dont want to talk about it, ignore it. instead of coming on slating the threads. it would be something if you were actually slating the contents.

anyways.

Rodgers is playing some unreal stuff right now. The main thing about a QB is consistency. And while we had a few QBs at the start of the year flying out of the blocks putting up great numbers, Rodgers is the only one who is sustaining that pace. He is doing what Brady has done, in making what should be average WR's look like hall of famers. a great work rate and is just a phenominal passer right now. hands down MVP this season, and it'll be interesting to see how the season finishes out for Green Bay. its tough going to maintain that form for a full season and playoffs.

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote: »

Why do you want to be a mini moderator here?

Why?

Why do you feel the need to dictate what threads can and cannot be opened?

Why? Why?

I won't even start on the questions it raises about inferiority and erections!

I'm not a moderator and I don't really care that much anymore tbh. I'm just discussing with you why you want to have an Aaron Rodgers thread when you have a Green Bay Packers thread. Its is going to be so boring because everybody thinks he is awesome.

To the best of my knowledge there has never been an appreciation thread for Brady, Manning, Brees, Favre or anybody else. Why are you so desperate to have one for Rodgers? Why would you not start one for Mike McCarthy? Why not have one for Clay Matthews? What about the other already slam dunk first ballot HOF'amer Charles Woodson?

I think starting individual threads for players is ludicrous and will ruin the forum with he front page littered with them. We'd have a Megatron threads, a Ray Lewis thread, a Brady thread, a Brees thread. Would you like that?

bruschi

bruschi wrote: »

are you the thread police or something?

Now now, it is not for you to put questions to him.

He is the man who makes the questions. Why the complex? Why not on the Packers thread? Why something about erections? Why not a Mike McCarthy thread? Will anyone think of Brady?

I think he is really pressing for a thread about McCarthy though. He has mentioned it a few times. I guess there was a thread about Rex Ryan over one swear word so he has a point, McCarthy deserves one.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

I think starting individual threads for players is ludicrous and will ruin the forum with he front page littered with them. We'd have a Megatron threads, a Ray Lewis thread, a Brady thread, a Brees thread. Would you like that?

But you contribute to other threads on other players!

Oh what was your own personal rule again, there had to be something happening, like a new contract, to justify it!

eagle eye

Deleted User wrote: »

But you contribute to other threads on other players!

Oh what was your own personal rule again, there had to be something happening, like a new contract, to justify it!

I'm just asking why its not enough for you to discuss him on the Green Bay Packers thread. You still haven't explained why you need a thread for him alone but not one for the other Packers I mentioned there. If you do decide to answer that then please go through them one by one with your reasons.

cooker3

Pherekydes wrote: »

I never thought as a Packers' fan that we could get a replacement for you-know-who that was better.

On that point I've noticed Rodgers never ever says Favres name in interviews. He says him, that guy etc.
I wonder is that a conscious decision on his part?

bruschi

Deleted User wrote: »

the Packers?

erections?

Mike McCarthy ?

think of Brady?

Rex Ryan

hmmmm. I'm not sure I like where this thread is going:pac:

darklighter

bruschi wrote: »

Rodgers is playing some unreal stuff right now. The main thing about a QB is consistency. And while we had a few QBs at the start of the year flying out of the blocks putting up great numbers, Rodgers is the only one who is sustaining that pace. He is doing what Brady has done, in making what should be average WR's look like hall of famers. a great work rate and is just a phenominal passer right now. hands down MVP this season, and it'll be interesting to see how the season finishes out for Green Bay. its tough going to maintain that form for a full season and playoffs.

Think its extremely harsh calling his WR's average. Jennings is a top 5 receiver and Nelson is getting better and better. Driver isnt getting the attention he once was but i'd still take him over a hell of a lot of wideouts.

As good as Rodgers is playing, I read on nfl.com yesterday that Bradys stats from 07 are better so he still has some improvement to do :cool:

It would be hard to argue that he's not the best player in the NFL at the moment

bruschi

darklighter wrote: »

Think its extremely harsh calling his WR's average. Jennings is a top 5 receiver and Nelson is getting better and better. Driver isnt getting the attention he once was but i'd still take him over a hell of a lot of wideouts.

As good as Rodgers is playing, I read on nfl.com yesterday that Bradys stats from 07 are better so he still has some improvement to do :cool:

It would be hard to argue that he's not the best player in the NFL at the moment

yeah it was more based on Jordy and Jones than anything, and I dont mean any disrespect to them. Just that they wouldnt be half as good IMO if they were elsewhere. Even look at Wayne, Collie, Clark (before IR) and they are looking terrible now without Manning. A good QB can bring out the absolute best in a WR, and Rodgers is doing that right now.

curry-muff

Deleted User wrote: »

But you contribute to other threads on other players!

Oh what was your own personal rule again, there had to be something happening, like a new contract, to justify it!

Don't even take him on, he goes out of his way on other forums to ruin threads too, if you don't reply to him he will disappear eventually because he isn't getting the attention he thrives on.

Its my first year properly watching the NFL and everyone told me to look out for Brady, but Rodgers has stolen the show for me, he's been fantastic, I have managed to catch a couple of Pats games too and Brady hasn't impressed me just as much as Rodgers, but time will tell once regular season ends, the playoffs are what really counts, but Rodgers is having an awesome season thus far.

cooker3

I think the QB rating is the best indicator to just how amazing Rodgers has been this season. I know it isn't perfect, as demonstrated by Tebows bizarre 100+ game a few weeks back, but I still it's a decent indicator to show how well a quarterback is playing.

There are 3 QB's who are averaging 100+. The others, not surprisingly, are Brees and Brady(surprisingly Romo is 4th) Brees is 3rd with 101.3 and Brady at 102.
What's Rodgers on? 130.7

That's 9 ahead of Mannings single season record, I think, and 28.7 ahead of Brady. To give you an idea how big a gap in performamce that is if you compare the same number below Brady then the nearest QB's are Sam Bradford and Josh Freeman who share the same rating of 72.6 and are joint 28th of 33 listed (this also shows how much they've both regressed).

He isn't just better, he is in his own league currently.

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

You still haven't explained why you need a thread for him alone but not one for the other Packers I mentioned there. If you do decide to answer that then please go through them one by one with your reasons.

Tell you what, become a mod and I'll feel some remote need to explain to you.

Untill then, never start another thread until you explain yourself to me first. Once we establish that you practice what you preach, and we build up some relationship of mutual respect and admiration, I'll reciprocate!

bruschi wrote: »

hmmmm. I'm not sure I like where this thread is going:pac:

cooker3 wrote: »

There are 3 QB's who are averaging 100+. The others, not surprisingly, are Brees and Brady(surprisingly Romo is 4th) Brees is 3rd with 101.3 and Brady at 102.
What's Rodgers on? 130.7

That's 9 ahead of Mannings single season record, I think, and 28.7 ahead of Brady. To give you an idea how big a gap in performamce that is if you compare the same number below Brady then the nearest QB's are Sam Bradford and Josh Freeman who share the same rating of 72.6 and are joint 28th of 33 listed (this also shows how much they've both regressed).

He isn't just better, he is in his own league currently.

Now THAT'S why I put up a thread like this. Because surely good play can be examined and appreciated, not in some fawning way, or everyone saying how awesome he is, but in a way that prompts people into setting out his stats, his style, an analytical way. We may not see this type of form for a long time. It's good to see it discussed. Sports programmes discuss him as a topic, not sure why this site shouldn't.

Thank you.

tallaghtoutlaws

I remember the good old days when every thread turned into a Manning Vs Brady thread.

Peyton Manning

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I remember the good old days when every thread turned into a Manning Vs Brady thread.

I never thought I'd say it, but I desperately miss Manning. I loved hoping the Colts lost every weekend, it doesn't mean as much now that they do.

Also, I have work booked off the day after Pats - Colts. Bit of a waste now

cooker3

Cam Newton wrote: »

I never thought I'd say it, but I desperately miss Manning. I loved hoping the Colts lost every weekend, it doesn't mean as much now that they do.

Also, I have work booked off the day after Pats - Colts. Bit of a waste now

You watch Curtis Painter will be doing things Rodgers can only dream off!

eagle eye

tallaghtoutlaws wrote: »

I remember the good old days when every thread turned into a Manning Vs Brady thread.

Yeah but that was fun. I look at starting a thread to praise a player as insulting the rest of the franchise. But of course the guys that want to do this probably only started supporting the Packers once things started going well.

I'm not talking about Cooker3 or guys like him here who have been following the game for a good while.

This appreciation thread thing is something that is done in the soccer forum. But soccer has done in to a pussy game over the last couple of years so I guess that sort of things is par for the course these days in that game.

@Conor74, if you are going to reply to me have the balls and decency to reply to the whole post.

tallaghtoutlaws

clare ny

well rodgers just taking the field lets see what he does to the lions , ? 300+ yards 3 TD 1 INT

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

But of course the guys that want to do this probably only started supporting the Packers once things started going well.

I'm not talking about Cooker3 or guys like him here who have been following the game for a good while.

Poor old eagle eye.

First with the psychoanalysis.

Then the erections (now THERE'S a complex).

And now he's moved on to the assumptions.

I started following the Packers in the mid 80s, 1984/85, when Lynn Dickey was coming to the end of his career. They stunk. And to make things worse, it was during the golden era of the Bears.

Is that long enough for you? If I had the tech know how I could even post up my Greg Koch autograph, personally addressed to me, from about 85, one of my prized possessions as a kid and still preserved. It may have been the last thing he signed before a contract for the Dolphins but there you go.

How about you anyway? When did you start following the Pats?

eagle eye

So are you going to explain to me why you don't feel the need to start a thread about those other players?

I'll respond to you other post when you do that. I've already posted that before here by the way.

davyjose

eagle eye wrote: »

But of course the guys that want to do this probably only started supporting the Packers once things started going well.

Not me, I've been a fan since 1928.

davyjose

eagle eye wrote: »

So are you going to explain to me why you don't feel the need to start a thread about those other players?

Perhaps because although they are good players, they're not in the midst of possibly the greatest season any player has ever had?

Let's not fcuk around here eagle eye, Rodgers' season is newsworthy. Like it or not.

eagle eye

davyjose wrote: »

Perhaps because although they are good players, they're not in the midst of possibly the greatest season any player has ever had?

Let's not fcuk around here eagle eye, Rodgers' season is newsworthy. Like it or not.

Yeah but look at the cast around him so really Mike McCarthy is the man you should be talking about.

davyjose

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah but look at the cast around him so really Mike McCarthy is the man you should be talking about.

Ah you were using that line for years, when manning had a very similar cast that curtis Painter has now. Nobody can do what Manning '04, or Brady '07 or Rodgers '11 is doing without an elite team around him**.

Though to the OP, if you want a Rodgers thread, start one. don't whinge about it

**Disclaimer: Marino could, but he has no rings. Arguments have been had, so I won't get into it again. Let's all agree he was crap, because a QB's ability alone is sole determination of how many rings he should have.

Are you ready...

Are you ready...

Here it is: :rolleyes: