Catholic Church apologizes for ‘ 150,000 forced adoption’ in Australia

the culture of deference

I am starting a new thread from this one

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75592258#post75592258

rather than derail another in response to another posters question

thebullkf wrote: »

Wheres the proof of children being sold?....and tortured..?

More than 150,000 young women across Australia had their children taken from them at birth without their consent.

An investigation has uncovered how for years young and usually unmarried women were subjected to forced adoptions in Catholic-run hospitals that resulted in them never seeing their child again.

They believed their children had been selected for forced adoption long before their birth and they were warned they could not oppose the decision.

In the aftermath of the shocking investigation the Australian Catholic Church issued a national apology, saying in a statement that its history of forced adoptions was 'deeply regrettable.'

Juliette Clough - was just 16 years when she gave birth to her son in a Catholic hospital in 1970.

'My ankles were strapped to the bed, they were in stirrups and I was gassed, I had plenty of gas and they just snatched away the baby.

'You weren't allowed to see him or touch him, anything like that, or hold him and it was just like a piece of my soul had died and it's still dead.'

Lily Arthur, was 17 and a ward of the state when she gave birth in 1967. She agreed to give up her child under threat of being imprisoned.

Some women reportedly lost more than one child to the program, their children been sent away to families deemed more suitable by the Church.

An Australian federal parliamentary inquiry is currently investigating the forced adoption legacy.




I know the Irish figure is around 50,000 children but we have no way of verifying this exactly as no enquiry has ever been completed here.


Also the standard typical reply from these conmen

Perth Archbishop Barry Hickey says he has "little evidence" of forced adoption practices in Catholic hospitals despite a national apology delivered by the health arm of the Catholic Church yesterday for "unethical or unlawful" adoption practices of the past, reports the West Australian.

Archbishop Hickey said if the Church had forced young women to give up their babies for adoption against their will, then it was right for the Church to apologise and offer counselling and support.

But he said Church adoptions in WA were arranged privately through a lawyer and the consent of the woman had been a requirement.

cosmicfart

Does/did the Church in Aus really have as much influnce as it did over the State in Ireland up recently?

very sad story I wonder were most the children ended up? Perhaps a large portion were adopted by a proper family.

Im not religious but perhaps just perhaps many of these children went onto better lives than the ones the could have had, had the church not intervened??


Like I said im not religious but I grow tired of reading church bashing theads on Boards, for all the badness in the church the is/was a lot of good to.

foxyboxer

I really need to stop browsing After Hours. It's awful on ones cortisol levels.

Dyr

Just let the f**king law sort it out, one way or the other rather than a tribunal or deal.

kfallon

the culture of deference wrote: »

I know the Irish figure is around 50,000 children but we have no way of verifying this exactly as no enquiry has ever been completed here.

Do you have any links or sources for this? Not disputing it or trying to stir shit but it's something I'd like to have a read of if you could please!

starbelgrade

In response to the claim that the Australian Catholic Church had taken more than 150,000 children from young women without their consent, a spokesman for the Church said, "A flamin' dingo stole the babies".

Killer Pigeon

The RCC really is one of the most evil organisations in history, on par with the Nazi Party.

Latchy

In Britain from the 1950s up until the late 60s , thousends of orphaned children were told they were going on day trips to various parts of the country with some thinking they were going to Blackpool , others to Southend on sea. Before the knew what was happening ,they were put on boats and shipped off to Canada and Australia with the latter taking up to six weeks to reach .

On arrival many were sent to remote parts of Australia and 'put to work ' building Catholic churchs which was nothing short of slavery and many were physically and sexually abused by priests and christian bros .In Australia they were refered to as the '£10 poms ' which is all it cost the uk goverment to send each child to Australia and a similar fate awaited those sent to Canada .A documentry on the subject 'The Ten Pound Poms ' was shown on british tv about 10 years ago as was a film 'The Leaving of Liverpool 'which is were many of the orphans sailed from .

TheZohanS

Could happen to any of us really, leave the poor church alone.

Latchy

I think the practice of shipping kids off to foreign shores without consent has been stopped a long time now although adopting babys for wealthy people abroad isin't .The latter would be more acceptable

stovelid

You'd pay up to a grand to get over to the sun nowadays, in fairness.

the culture of deference

Latchy wrote: »

I think the practice of shipping kids off to foreign shores without consent has been stopped a long time now although adopting babys for wealthy people abroad isin't .The latter would be more acceptable

Yeah it stopped in the 1990's

FinnLizzy

Pretty disturbing thought that this happened in a country that didn't have as strong a church influence as Ireland did.

Freddie59

kfallon wrote: »

Do you have any links or sources for this? Not disputing it or trying to stir shit but it's something I'd like to have a read of if you could please!

In fairness, I'd say 50,000 is a conservative estimate.

Latchy

stovelid wrote: »

You'd pay up to a grand to get over to the sun nowadays, in fairness.

Yeah but you didn't get all inclusive and swimming pool back then

the culture of deference wrote: »

Yeah it stopped in the 1990's

Which is just around the time the RCC was coming under more scrutiny.

pragmatic1

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

The RCC really is one of the most evil organisations in history, on par with the Nazi Party.

If you look at their entire history they make the nazis look like softies. They're still at **** like this in the developing world

mossyc123

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_adoption_scandals

Latchy

The catholic church always thought they were different to any other organisation when it came to the welfare of children ...orphaned or not .

Cianos

cosmicfart wrote: »

Does/did the Church in Aus really have as much influnce as it did over the State in Ireland up recently?

very sad story I wonder were most the children ended up? Perhaps a large portion were adopted by a proper family.

Im not religious but perhaps just perhaps many of these children went onto better lives than the ones the could have had, had the church not intervened??


Like I said im not religious but I grow tired of reading church bashing theads on Boards, for all the badness in the church the is/was a lot of good to.

Sorry...what??