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It Begins 2012 Video *Possible Spoiler*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


    It's not Kane, why hint at another promo when you air a blatant one that's an indication to him returning...

    Read on another forum that the bible passage that was said by the kid is in relation to the fall of Jericho and peoples attempt to rebuild it.

    That or it's Taker.:rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    STING!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    SIN CARA!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Penn wrote: »
    SIN CARA!

    Dont be silly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    it's a disgrace if it's Undertaker.

    they constantly waste these video returns on him, it's too fúcking obvious.

    it's also a disgrace if it's HHH, for pretty much the same reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,829 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    It is former school teacher Maven making a return, you heard it here first people!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    Silent Rage!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 390 ✭✭-Kenny-


    ESSA RIOS!!!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,206 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Melina?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    The general consensus online is that it is either 1. Jericho or 2. Undertaker.

    1. Jericho;
    There are similarities between the biblical like quote and the story of Jerichos walls are similar.
    Basically, the city of Jericho was seen as the world and it was said that if jericho could be compromised it would bring about the end of the world.
    So theres a possible connection there, but it might be just too abstract.
    When i first seen it i thought that it could be reference to Punk claiming he is the 'best in the world'. The part in the video when it is said 'The end of the world' could be connected to that, however, thats just my opinion in that respect.
    Another point which i seen on the youtube comments is combining how its only a youtube video (Y), (2)nd, (J)anuary.

    2. Undertaker;
    Its a classic undertaker like promo, dark in theme, moody, some sort of biblical connection in a sense, like last years "grave cant hold me down'.
    However thats pretty much it, theres not much more else to point to taker.
    The kid in the video, the setting itself have no real connection to undertaker.
    Now, an interesting point is the date, the 2nd of january 1999 was an important date in the formation of the ministry of darkness.
    Could we be on the cusp of a new ministry?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    Hulk Hogan???


    Chris Benoit return?


    I loled at that comment on youtube.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,458 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    The Return of Kharma ???
    Sting (very much doubt it)
    Kane
    Undertaker
    Maybe its Evan Bourne or Rey Mysterio

    Some laugh if it was just the lauch of the wwe network on that day


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    The Return of Kharma ???

    Fairly sure it's still a bit soon for that one.
    Sting (very much doubt it)
    He's still under contract at TNA is he not?
    Kane
    Highly doubt it after having another promo in it, though not completely implausible.
    Undertaker
    One of the more likely outcomes.
    Maybe its Evan Bourne or Rey Mysterio
    I'd venture it's a bit bleak for either of those characters, who are nearly career faces.
    Some laugh if it was just the lauch of the wwe network on that day
    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭Alaska1


    How many of these campaign's can they actually waste on the Undertaker ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    Some people grasping at straws?

    "IT BEGINS" is an anagram for "I BE STING"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭gnfnrhead


    I think we can rule out Sting. He's under contract to TNA so if WWE advertise him for their events, TNA could sue them and Sting. I'd hazard a guess that the WWE lawyers are smart enough to figure that out.

    It just doesnt seem like a Jericho video to me. His have always been mystery themed but not dark and grim. Undertaker normally ticks all three of those boxes. Undertaker usually returns around January unless he is injured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Whilst I'm going to jump onto The Undertaker bandwagon with this promo, it's worth noting that Fozzy's World Tour just wrapped up 3 days ago, and they don't have any more booked tour or promotional dates in the future.

    http://www.fozzyrock.com/tour.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭Machismo Fan


    It'd be a little early for Undertaker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    gnfnrhead wrote: »
    I think we can rule out Sting. He's under contract to TNA so if WWE advertise him for their events, TNA could sue them and Sting. I'd hazard a guess that the WWE lawyers are smart enough to figure that out.


    Sustained.


    David-Otunga-wwe-superstar-4.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Meltzer said Jericho never wants to wrestle for Vince again so expect a return very soon.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    maybe its Brock Lesner:D


    no seriously though i dont know if its worth pointing out but the person who uploaded the video only created theri account to upload the video.

    their profile says they are 43...............................

    so maybe they lied but there is always a chance that thats their actual age. so who is 43 and a former wwe star

    i think its safe to say that this is a return video and not a new star video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Has Brodus Clay's redebut been pushed back again :p


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Perhaps it's Goldberg :pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Was this video on Raw last night?

    I saw the Kane video but don't remember seeing this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Has Brodus Clay's redebut been pushed back again :p

    Yeah no mention of him last nite from the report I read. Lads its clearly Gangrel coming back.
    Close thread.

    Was this video on Raw last night?

    I saw the Kane video but don't remember seeing this?

    think they showed a URL Link to the video on the broadcast.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    Was this video on Raw last night?

    I saw the Kane video but don't remember seeing this?
    No the link for the youtube channel flashed up for a few seconds in the bottom right of the screen I think. I didnt even know about it until I saw it on another site and posted it in the live thread last night.


    I think its Mordecai. Who remembers him? :pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think its too early for Taker.

    If he does come back it will be either No Way Out or the following weeks in the build up to Wrestlemania IMO.

    I'm going to go with Big Daddy V :pac:


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Music Moderators, Regional Midlands Moderators Posts: 24,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭Angron


    Tinie wrote: »
    I think its Mordecai. Who remembers him? :pac:
    Bah, Kevin Thorne all the way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    It begins = It starts

    Start rhymes with HEART

    News of the video BROKE last night

    The video stars a little KID.....



    It's obviously Trish Stratus


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Penn wrote: »
    It's obviously Trish Stratus

    I WISH.
    Gangrel > Mordecai


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    maybe its noone:D just saying the way wwe has been booked lately i wouldnt be too suprsied



    or it could be Zach Gowan or Eugene


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    Hope it isn't Jericho,he hasn't been gone long enough,plus The Miz is pretty much doing his gimmick anyways.

    Maybe the vid is hyping the start of Bryan Danielson's Goldberg like push to Mania!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    Icky Thump wrote: »
    or it could be Zach Gowan or Eugene

    I'm calling it now, Zach Gowen Vs Kamala at WM28.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    Charisteas wrote: »
    I'm calling it now, Zach Gowen Vs Kamala at WM28.

    to headline and steal the show :D






    hopefully Kamala doesnt steal his leg lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    It's a sad sign when I realise I'd probably prefer a Gangrel return over an Undertaker one.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    i feel the deadman is just................... well dead. i think if he is coming back then the american badass is the only way to do it. his old characther is too outdated and the fact that he just keeps coming back for a couple of weeks is kinda annoying.

    hell we've seen more of Dwayne than the undertaker these days

    i know he cant wrestle too much but have some sort of tv persona anyway. he could just how up kick some asses and disappear sting-esque style. he doesnt need to wrestle to be around.

    it just dead boring watching his long intro to retuning to just ................... see his long intro again into the ring. i mean they have to have more 3 hour episodes of raw anytime he shows up just so they can fit in his entrance.

    i ask is anyone at all even impressed with the undertakers entrance???? not to mention the fact he walks even more impeded than May Young at times. He had 2 great matches against HBK because HBK is an amazing worker.

    im sorry but i think the wake of the undertaker is coming to a close



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    rovert wrote: »

    god forbid that tub of lard gets back on tv. i mean it its just not evn funny how much weight he gained. he is just fat and cant move around the ring the way he use to. remember how fast the hardys use to be................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    It must be Undertaker or Jericho.. If it is someone new that would be great because its been a while since they went and got a face people know and have him return.

    The Masked Kane return is a great idea but what will be the idea behind the return of the mask?? They should of had Mark Henry stamp or leg drop his face before he left.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    unless they just say Kane has gone crazy again or something and go back to the mask where he was so powerful. maybe just maybe they could have a masked Kane vrs Badass match at Mania. Kane could be (like everytime they do the fued) angry at taker for whatever reason (as long as he didnt kill his dog like Matt did to Jeff...................). i think if they set it up right they could have the American Badass persona properly fighting off the Paranormal evil Kane and Kane. have it in a hell in the cell or fight to the death(keyfab :D) or something

    yea id say its Y2J or Undertaker myself unless they went all out and as you siad brought in someone BIG

    the video is very paranormal though so i id have to say its Taker for now.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,568 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    Yea the thoughts of a Punk vs Y2J programme going into WM would be Epic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Garseys


    Yea the thoughts of a Punk vs Y2J programme going into WM would be Epic

    sweetjesus.jpg?1304464025

    2 guys who are amazing in the ring and 2 of the best talkers in the business...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    Punk vs. Jericho

    Taker vs. Kane

    Me:eek:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Its weird; the language is typical of Undertaker but the style is typical of Jericho. Part of me wonders if 2January is part of the clue...

    Maybe it's Lesnar, working towards a return for a Mania match? The "force come to reclaim what is his" doesn't add up for Jericho imo. But the hidden aspect of the promo makes no sense for Taker...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,016 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ciano316 wrote: »
    It must be Undertaker or Jericho.. If it is someone new that would be great because its been a while since they went and got a face people know and have him return.

    The Masked Kane return is a great idea but what will be the idea behind the return of the mask?? They should of had Mark Henry stamp or leg drop his face before he left.

    Would Jericho be considered "a familiar force" :confused: kinda has me thinking big fella like Taker, Lesnar or Batista


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    Nice to see WWE have the fans talking like this again... You can't beat a cryptic return :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Maybe it's Lesnar, working towards a return for a Mania match?

    Lesnar is fighting Overeem 3 days before it so he'll either be waking up after getting knocked out or shítting it about facing and standing in front of Cigano.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭Alaska1


    Icky Thump wrote: »
    to headline and steal the show :D






    hopefully Kamala doesnt steal his leg lol

    Eat his leg ya mean !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    ciano316 wrote: »
    Nice to see WWE have the fans talking like this again... You can't beat a cryptic return :D
    Yup I agree very smart marketing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ciano316


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Would Jericho be considered "a familiar force" :confused: kinda has me thinking big fella like Taker, Lesnar or Batista

    I think Jericho would be considered a familiar force.. He's a huge name when he's around and is always in the title picture.. It does say he will return to claim what is his. and if we really want to get cryptic its the new Year 2nd of January that date is set for... :eek:


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