Nightclubs searching handbags?

bob2oo7

What is the law regarding nightclubs searching hand bags

There is a well known night club in Dundalk that has begun doing this, obviously looking to see if you are taking your own booze in with you, but do they have any right to do this?

I wouldnt imagine so?

you don't have to go into the club

MagicSean

If you don't like it then don't go in.

orourkeda

I doubt they're looking for booze

KeithM89_old

bob2oo7 wrote: »

There is a well known night club in Dundalk that has begun doing this, obviously looking to see if you are taking your own booze in with you, but do they have any right to do this?

Which one? Theres only 2!

I never get my handbag searched going into either...

MagicSean

KeithM89 wrote: »

Which one? Theres only 2!

I never get my handbag searched going into either...

They don't bother the really pretty people

h2005

orourkeda wrote: »

I doubt they're looking for booze

Its booze alright clubs are losing out big time to this at the moment they don`t really care about the other stuff

Sykk

bob2oo7 wrote: »

What is the law regarding nightclubs searching hand bags

There is a well known night club in Dundalk that has begun doing this, obviously looking to see if you are taking your own booze in with you, but do they have any right to do this?

I wouldnt imagine so?

Ah see there's your first problem!

charlietheminxx

I assume they do have the right.... Somewhere I frequent in Dublin does this too.

At least it's not like London.... I've been more thoroughly searched there going into a club than I have going into an airport. Assume they were looking for weapons and the like though.

bob2oo7

KeithM89 wrote: »

Which one? Theres only 2!

I never get my handbag searched going into either...

Maybe coz your name is Keith?

hidinginthebush

KeithM89 wrote: »

Which one? Theres only 2!

I never get my handbag searched going into either...

You gave the doorman a bj, didn't you?

TanG411

And rightly so. Who knows what the wimminz carry in those handbags. Probably Narnia.

strobe

bob2oo7 wrote: »

What is the law regarding nightclubs searching hand bags

There is a well known night club in Dundalk that has begun doing this, obviously looking to see if you are taking your own booze in with you, but do they have any right to do this?

I wouldnt imagine so?

You don't have to let them search your hand bag but they don't have to let you into the club either.

orourkeda

h2005 wrote: »

Its booze alright clubs are losing out big time to this at the moment they don`t really care about the other stuff

weapons? drugs?

flutterflye

This is kind of gross just to warn you!
One day we were going into a club.
My friend had gotten her period in our friend's house just before we left, and had borrowed a pair of underwear.
She had her stained pants in her bag.
She only remembered when we got to the door and they wanted to search her bag.
She was mortified!
It was someone's birthday, so we kind of had to go in.
She was there trying to convince them that she had no drink in the bag, but because she was kicking up such a big stink, they got really suspicious.
In the end she just opened it, and tbh I think the bouncers were more embarrassed than she was.

But ever since then, I have kind of thought that you could have anything in your bag.
It's a bit of an invasion of privacy alright.

At the same time, of course they need to check for drink/drugs etc...
So I don't know.

bob2oo7

They are not checking fellas pockets for drugs?

Only hand bags

strobe

bob2oo7 wrote: »

They are not checking fellas pockets for drugs?

Only hand bags

They are looking for drink, not drugs. Pockets can't carry much drink. You could fit the entire nights worth of drink for three people into some of the hand bags girls drag around with them.

AeoNGriM

I think we all know what they are checking for but let's at least try to answer the OP's question.

Bouncers are NOT police, so how do they have the right to stop and search a private citizen?

(lets assume for moment that we're not idiots and are aware of the repercussions of refucing a search ie not being let in)

SEPT 23 1989

A sniffer dog with a drink problem is whats needed here

Immaculate Pasta

There's a classy nightclub in Printworks in Manchester where not only you get your bag searched but you also have to walk through a metal detector :cool:.

stovelid

Just leave a few tampons soaked in ketchup near the top of the bag.

trellheim

As I recall don't you have to put up a sign about this "Conditions of Entry" patrons agree to a reasonable search .... isn't it on the back of ticketmaster tickets, the same thing ? Not sure if you can do it without the sign, or without a clearly defined policy regarding goods. It is perfectly legal for example to bring 6 cans into a nightclub ( You might be bringing them home with you later, it's not illegal to drink them there either, it's only against club rules if you drink them there and then, and then only if its clearly set out in "Conditions of Entry" )

Finally does the licence/insurance a bouncer has cover searches ? Let's say he gets spiked with the needle you and your mates have been shooting up with. Whose fault is that ?

foxyboxer

Why not just wear a Burkha with your Naggin underneath.
Then discard it in the jacks.

They'll be too afraid of causing offence to search you then! :pac:

stupidusername

yeah this is kinda pissing me off now. the sub lounge on tara st in dublin do this all the time, and i went into the george on halloween and they did too. i never bring drink anywhere so it's not like i'm pissed off cause they're going to stop me, but this is uncalled for. and yeah they should have to have signs up. of course it's legal for them to do it, but they should have to warn you about them doing it on their premises.

and they probably only do it to women because a) it's harder (teehee) to conceal drink in a mans pocket and b) because I'd reckon more women than men bring in drinks.

and yes of course if you don't like it you go elsewhere, but this is going to become more and more widespread and then you really won't have a choice.

markc1184

Seen this for the first time at the weekend in Drogheda. They weren't stopping all girls just random people in the queue. A girl just up from us wasn't allowed in because she had a bottle of vodka in her bag, but then they didnt bother to stop my girlfriend.

Logical Fallacy

bob2oo7 wrote: »

I wouldnt imagine so?

Well they do, so that's just the way it is.

If you want to refuse a search that's fine but they don't have to let you in.

conor1979

trellheim wrote: »

It is perfectly legal for example to bring 6 cans into a nightclub ( You might be bringing them home with you later, it's not illegal to drink them there either, it's only against club rules if you drink them there and then, and then only if its clearly set out in "Conditions of Entry" )

I'm open to correction but I am nearly sure that there is some legislation that states "only food and drink bought on the premises may be consumed on the premises". You may (or may not) be entitled to bring it in but drinking it is another matter.

laugh

Waste of time, all the classy birds strap the naggins to their thighs these days.

Logical Fallacy

trellheim wrote: »

Finally does the licence/insurance a bouncer has cover searches ? Let's say he gets spiked with the needle you and your mates have been shooting up with. Whose fault is that ?

Yes it does...the PSA course covers both bag and body searches.

As for the insurance issue, that would be covered by the venues insurance.

Corruptable

You don't have to enter. It's condition of entry. As long as you want to enter, you have to consume to a search.

Neyite

Good luck to them searching my handbag. :pac:

Its like a bottomless pit, I can never find my lip balm, or my phone before it stops ringing or my purse half the time. It was worse when I used to smoke, about 10 lighters and I still coudnt find one rooting around in there.

Yakult

-best not to advocate pruprosely infecting bouncers with diseases-

arybvtcw0eolkf

AeoNGriM wrote: »

I think we all know what they are checking for but let's at least try to answer the OP's question.

Bouncers are NOT police, so how do they have the right to stop and search a private citizen?

(lets assume for moment that we're not idiots and are aware of the repercussions of refucing a search ie not being let in)

Its not a 'stop and search', by entering the club the customer is consenting to have their bag searched by security - you don't like it, go elsewhere.

Tbh I'd hate to be out with a GF and have it done so I'd avoid such places.

stovelid

AeoNGriM wrote: »

Bouncers are NOT police, so how do they have the right to stop and search a private citizen?

What on earth is a private citizen?.

Is it like being shy?

arybvtcw0eolkf

stovelid wrote: »

What on earth is a private citizen?.

Is it like being shy?

Yes.

And a rank in the army.

John Doe1

KeithM89 wrote: »

Which one? Theres only 2!

I never get my handbag searched going into either...

definite secterianism

TheZohanS

Wouldn't blame them searching, clubs have large overheads, if you want a BYO venue go to an Indian restaurant. Plus it's Dundalk high, all those empty naggins and shoulders will end up bottling someone that can't explain what they're looking at when questioned.

LighterGuy

Dont goto nightclubs anymore.
But its f**ked up the hear some places are checking bags.

They probably have some stupid legal right to do so since its 'there premises'. But lets be honest no one has a right to look in your bag when you are minding your own business.

Logical Fallacy

stovelid wrote: »

What on earth is a private citizen?.

Is it like being shy?

It's what you get to be if you sign up to fight the bugs!

FOR BUENOS AIRES!

Leftist

Bouncers summed up:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWMx88RVB4o

antodeco

I've had plenty a conversation with managers of places over this kind of stuff. Searches/runners/straight refusals are illegal, unless there is a sign stating it to potential customers. If it says R.O.A.R or Conditions of Entry, they can do pretty much what they like however.

Just thinking, what's stopping someone saying that when their bag was searched, the person took out €100. Whilst clubs state "no liability for loss or damage" that liability is waived the moment they force you to hand over your bag.

AnonoBoy

antodeco wrote: »

Just thinking, what's stopping someone saying that when their bag was searched, the person took out €100.

Most clubs would have cameras on the door. They'd be able to show clearly that the bouncer didn't take anything.

I've been asked to open bags going into pubs in the evening if it looks like it could potentially hold drink. It never bothers me - I open it and let them look in.

The amount of empty cans and naggins you see in the toilets of some pubs I'm not surprised that it happens and indeed I've seen this happening for years, not sure why people are so surprised about it.

LighterGuy

Leftist wrote: »

Bouncers summed up:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWMx88RVB4o

I remember seeing that.
-snip-

Leftist

LighterGuy wrote: »

I remember seeing that.
.

Did you ever see the ones with the russian doormen/gang they make this guy look wholesome. The point is door staff take the law into their own hands, the only way to fight against it is to refuse to use the business.

Avoiding nightclubs in dundalk I would think would be a positive?

TheZohanS

Leftist wrote: »

Bouncers summed up:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWMx88RVB4o

How many times have you been assaulted by a bouncer?

LighterGuy

Leftist wrote: »

Did you ever see the ones with the russian doormen/gang they make this guy look wholesome. The point is door staff take the law into their own hands, the only way to fight against it is to refuse to use the business.

Avoiding nightclubs in dundalk I would think would be a positive?

Haha. Yeah, would be positive.
I hate bouncers. Yeah sure they are people so both good and bad and all that crap but when that coat comes on the power trip comes with it too. Former bouncer once told me that about himself but mainly others he was working with. Seemingly alright blokes outside the job but when the coat went on utter wan*ers.

Leftist

TheZohan wrote: »

How many times have you been assaulted by a bouncer?

Twice.

arybvtcw0eolkf

LighterGuy wrote: »

Haha. Yeah, would be positive.
I hate bouncers. Yeah sure they are people so both good and bad and all that crap but when that coat comes on the power trip comes with it too. Former bouncer once told me that about himself but mainly others he was working with. Seemingly alright blokes outside the job but when the coat went on utter wan*ers.

I guess in summer time when the weather is too warm for coats they were "alright blokes" again?.

stovelid

Leftist wrote: »

Twice.

Diddums.

LighterGuy

Crosby Nervous Sibling wrote: »

I guess in summer time when the weather is too warm for coats they were "alright blokes" again?.

No need to be sarcastic Crosby Nervous Sibling.
But its funny actually, a sarcastic comment from someone who i am sure has stated they were a bouncer before on here.

So i'll be expecting bias comments from you

arybvtcw0eolkf

LighterGuy wrote: »

No need to be sarcastic Makikomi.
But its funny actually, a sarcastic comment from someone who i am sure has stated they were a bouncer before on here.

So i'll be expecting bias comments from you

Not really, I've also stated here that I've worked with plenty of idiots.. But they were idiots regardless what clothes they wore, coats made no difference what so ever.