HMR Bullet damage

garv123

was out for a quick lamp last night but it was very foggy, but shot 2 bunnies at about 50 yards. I only had narrow stakes to use as a rest again and aimed on the neck/shoulders since i couldnt keep it very steady.
I went to inspect where i hit both and couldn find a mark on either. They both fell over without even a kick. They look like they died of fright. I felt their shoulders and everything felt intact too.

So my question is what happens to the hmr vmax bullet on impact at 50 yards? does it pass straight through or does it do all the damage inside.
I noticed the body shots with it are a much messier job at 50yards and the damage is clear to see.

kildare.17hmr

fodda wrote: »

Not the answer you are looking for but have a look at this for a .22 at 300 yards which should wake up a few on what is powerful enough and what is not. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAkOzr6cDx0

Fodda WTF has that got to do with the op??????

@garv, i found if i hit them just under the ribs the vmax did all the damage inside and burst guts ect, i left them for the foxes way too messy for my liking to eat! in the end id only take head shots with the vmax because they were too messy. What damage was there inside when you gutted them?

Have you tried the 20gr yet lad?

Boiled-egg

Lads reading yere posts, just got grant letter for .17hmr can't wait to get out with it!!

garv123

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Fodda WTF has that got to do with the op??????

@garv, i found if i hit them just under the ribs the vmax did all the damage inside and burst guts ect, i left them for the foxes way too messy for my liking to eat! in the end id only take head shots with the vmax because they were too messy. What damage was there inside when you gutted them?

Have you tried the 20gr yet lad?

Yeah headshots is what i usually go for but i must find a fine day during the weekends when i get a chance have the scope zero'd properly and when my bipod comes il have a better rest so it will be all headshots from there on.

didnt bother, left these two in the ditch for the birdies, one of the lads fathers whos land ive permission on wants the numbers down. must gut the next lot and make some of that southern fried rabbit i saw:cool:

havent tried the 20gr yet. ive 13 cci tnt's to try too. they look messy from what ive seen online
the rabbits were sitting up so i aimed above the shoulders on the neck and when i inspected both and went poking at them i couldnt find a mark, expected the neck to be as messy as a headshot.

speaking of damage though when we went after two pheasants saturday and were walking back through to the field a rabbit ran out cross us at about 50 yards away. to my surprise a 32g 6 knocked him. when i got up too him he jumped up and ran away. another 32g 6 put a tennis ball size hole straight through him from 15 yards away. not much good for the pit:cool:

kildare.17hmr

Boiled-egg wrote: »

Lads reading yere posts, just got grant letter for .17hmr can't wait to get out with it!!

congrats lad well ware;)

garv123 wrote: »

Yeah headshots is what i usually go for but i must find a fine day during the weekends when i get a chance have the scope zero'd properly and when my bipod comes il have a better rest so it will be all headshots from there on.

didnt bother, left these two in the ditch for the birdies, one of the lads fathers whos land ive permission on wants the numbers down. must gut the next lot and make some of that southern fried rabbit i saw:cool:

havent tried the 20gr yet. ive 13 cci tnt's to try too. they look messy from what ive seen online
the rabbits were sitting up so i aimed above the shoulders on the neck and when i inspected both and went poking at them i couldnt find a mark, expected the neck to be as messy as a headshot.

speaking of damage though when we went after two pheasants saturday and were walking back through to the field a rabbit ran out cross us at about 50 yards away. to my surprise a 32g 6 knocked him. when i got up too him he jumped up and ran away. another 32g 6 put a tennis ball size hole straight through him from 15 yards away. not much good for the pit:cool:

If your not bothered eating them stick to the 17gr but i found the 20gr much better, no damage at all plus better on a fox if you come accross one.

Bolting bunnys with the shotgun is serious crack alrite lad!

tfox

17gr vmax are the dogs b0ll0*

headshots are the only shots when it comes to bunnies anyway, good still day 200 yds no bother :rolleyes:

lefthooker

This is the extreme scale of what a 17gr Vmax can do, bunny shot at 75ish yards. Horrific damage.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/285397/162951.jpg

garv123

lefthooker wrote: »

This is the extreme scale of what a 17gr Vmax can do, bunny shot at 75ish yards. Horrific damage.
https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/285397/162951.jpg

i shot one the first night out and got him in the body at about 80 yards. all that kept him in one piece was the skin on his belly. Its mad that some shots do that and other dont leave a mark.

presume its to do with the range?

lefthooker

garv123 wrote: »

i shot one the first night out and got him in the body at about 80 yards. all that kept him in one piece was the skin on his belly. Its mad that some shots do that and other dont leave a mark.

presume its to do with the range?

maybe but its got a lot to do with the bullet hitting something solid, like bone, pushes the tip back into the bullet causing it to expand. Think thats the basic physics of it.

meathstevie

garv123 wrote: »

Yeah headshots is what i usually go for but i must find a fine day during the weekends when i get a chance have the scope zero'd properly and when my bipod comes il have a better rest so it will be all headshots from there on.

didnt bother, left these two in the ditch for the birdies, one of the lads fathers whos land ive permission on wants the numbers down. must gut the next lot and make some of that southern fried rabbit i saw:cool:

havent tried the 20gr yet. ive 13 cci tnt's to try too. they look messy from what ive seen online
the rabbits were sitting up so i aimed above the shoulders on the neck and when i inspected both and went poking at them i couldnt find a mark, expected the neck to be as messy as a headshot.

speaking of damage though when we went after two pheasants saturday and were walking back through to the field a rabbit ran out cross us at about 50 yards away. to my surprise a 32g 6 knocked him. when i got up too him he jumped up and ran away. another 32g 6 put a tennis ball size hole straight through him from 15 yards away. not much good for the pit:cool:

Don't underestimate the humble 32g nr6 cartridge, I've killed pigeons stone dead with them further than that. If you're shooting running rabbits with that sort of cartridge you want them at least 30 yards away from you unless you want to be picking up pulped rabbit which isn't any good to anyone.