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Was Graham Souness offically sacked after rapegate?

  • 20-11-2011 12:45pm
    #1
    jayteecork
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Just wondering will he be back for euro 2012, I thought he had great chemistry with John and Eamo.


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  • #2
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Surely if RTE were going to sack him for something like that, Eamo would have been long gone by now


  • #3
    jayteecork
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    Surely if RTE were going to sack him for something like that, Eamo would have been long gone by now

    Haven't seen him there since though.

    Maybe they'll bring back Ossie Ardilles instead.


  • #4
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Haven't seen him there since though.

    They haven't done a major tournament since though. Was he ever on the RTE for anything other then international tournaments?


  • #5
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    God I hate when people tag '-gate' onto every single little controversy. It should only be used for very serious things like the actual Watergate incident. This was nothing at all.


  • #6
    jayteecork
    Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    It should only be used for very serious things like the actual Watergate incident.


    Thanks for the advice m8, I'll certainly only use it for very serious things like Watergate from now on. :rolleyes:


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  • #7
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    It should only be used for very serious things like the actual Watergate incident

    You mean Watergate-gate?


  • #8
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    jayteecork wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice m8, I'll certainly only use it for very serious things like Watergate from now on. :rolleyes:

    Good lad


  • #9
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    You mean Watergate-gate?

    Ha ha well no considering the '-gate' suffix was formed from the name of the hotel. Have a look at the Wikipedia page of the list of scandals with the '-gate' tag and it's a joke how many of them there are. People tagging them on for the laugh of it.

    Anyway, I think Souness' use of the word rape was correct in the situation. To rape someone/thing doesn't just mean to force them to have sex with you. It also means "an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation". I can't remember but I'm sure that's what he meant when he said Vidic was raped by Torres.


  • #10
    tommyhaas
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    Ha ha well no considering the '-gate' suffix was formed from the name of the hotel. Have a look at the Wikipedia page of the list of scandals with the '-gate' tag and it's a joke how many of them there are. People tagging them on for the laugh of it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB9JgxhXW5w


  • #11
    paddy kerins
    Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    When was the occasion in question?


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  • #12
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    God I hate when people tag '-gate' onto every single little controversy. It should only be used for very serious things like the actual Watergate incident. This was nothing at all.

    I'm glad someone raised this important issue and nipped it in the bud for once and for all.


  • #13
    monkey9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,337 ✭✭✭✭monkey9


    flahavaj wrote: »
    I'm glad someone raised this important issue and nipped it in the bud for once and for all.

    Just let it go. Hopefully, we've heard the last of the JimmyIovinegate scandal!


  • #14
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,515 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Souness prefers working with RTE supposedly so if he's not booked elsewhere, it would be a pleasure to see him as an alternate for Brady.
    There are Didi and Ozzy also who add some colour to the panel but I always enjoy Souness and Dunphy's sometimes tense exchanges. Hopefully he'll be back. RTE, I would hope, will capitalise on Ireland's qualification by providing coverage that matches the excitement of Ireland being at a major for the first time in 10 years.


  • #15
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB9JgxhXW5w

    You sunk my battleship


  • #16
    tonycascarino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    briany wrote: »
    Souness prefers working with RTE supposedly so if he's not booked elsewhere, it would be a pleasure to see him as an alternate for Brady.
    Presumably because he can criticise whatever player he wants to in the game analysis, whereas on Sky Sports he must say that every player is brilliant. Also the RTE coverage is much more laid back. Would like to see him return myself.


  • #17
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    tonycascarino wrote: »
    Presumably because he can criticise whatever player he wants to in the game analysis, whereas on Sky Sports he must say that every player is brilliant. Also the RTE coverage is much more laid back. Would like to see him return myself.

    No doubt you'd love to be on RTE. You might have gotten away with the Holocaust comment then.


  • #18
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    I'm not a huge fan of him as a pundit. Besides, the RTE panel already has enough managerial flops who deflect attention from their absent tactical knowhow through out and out trolling.

    Would much rather see Didi return, I really liked what he brought to the panel last time around.


  • #19
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    I'm not a huge fan of him as a pundit. Besides, the RTE panel already has enough managerial flops who deflect attention from their absent tactical knowhow through out and out trolling.

    Would much rather see Didi return, I really liked what he brought to the panel last time around.

    Hamann was class altogether, but doesn't he work for BBC now?

    Would like to see Richie Sadlier get a more prominent role, I think he's very solid.


  • #20
    Ivy Jealous Tightrope
    Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Ivy Jealous Tightrope


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Hamann was class altogether, but doesn't he work for BBC now?

    Would like to see Richie Sadlier get a more prominent role    , I think he's very solid.
    He is very good. I would like to see him replace either Brady or Giles, who are dreadful.


  • #21
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Archer Stocky Silver wrote: »
    He is very good. I would like to see him replace either Brady or Giles, who are dreadful.

    The thing about Giles is he makes no effort to do any homework or keep up with the game beyond the confines of the PL (and even his knowledge there can be dubious) - but he does still offer excellent insight into the fundamentaks of the game at times.


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  • #22
    Ivy Jealous Tightrope
    Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Ivy Jealous Tightrope


    flahavaj wrote: »
    The thing about Giles is he makes no effort to do any homework or keep up with the game beyond the confines of the PL (and even his knowledge there can be dubious) - but he does still offer excellent insight into the fundamentaks of the game at times.

    I just think he offers nothing tbh. Listening to him on newstalk is a joke aswell, he just rehashes what is asked of him and manages to put it in an answer without actually saying anything.


  • #23
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Hamann was class altogether, but doesn't he work for BBC now?

    Would like to see Richie Sadlier get a more prominent role, I think he's very solid.

    I didn't know that. Shame. Though if he's not in their EC2012 plans RTE should definitely go in for him.

    Sadlier has been good any time I've seen him, yeah.


  • #24
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    How can they sack somebody that is not an employee?
    Jimmy Iovine wrote: »
    God I hate when people tag '-gate' onto every single little controversy. It should only be used for very serious things like the actual Watergate incident. This was nothing at all.
    You do realise that it was called Watergate because the Democratic headquarters that they broke into were in the Watergate Office complex. It wasn't called Watergate because it was a serious incident.


  • #25
    Neil3030
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,154 ✭✭✭✭Neil3030


    parker kent wrote: »
    How can they sack somebody that is not an employee?


    You do realise that it was called Watergate because the Democratic headquarters that they broke into were in the Watergate Office complex. It wasn't called Watergate because it was a serious incident.

    I'd love if the hotel had been called The Waterballs.

    Grannyballs
    Bloodballs
    Bertieballs
    Spyballs


  • #26
    the untitled user
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭the untitled user


    In relation to the world cup, Souness was only contracted to do the group stages. For the knockout rounds he worked for Al Jezeera, who I assume were offering him a more substantial paypacket. Pretty sure he's been working there consistently since which would go some ways to explaining why he's appeared so infrequently on RTE since.


  • #27
    flahavaj
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Neil3030 wrote: »
    I'd love if the hotel had been called The Waterballs.

    Grannyballs
    Bloodballs
    Bertieballs
    Spyballs

    Gateballs.


  • #28
    parker kent
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    flahavaj wrote: »
    Gateballs.

    Jabulanai Balls-balls.


  • #29
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    parker kent wrote: »
    You do realise that it was called Watergate because the Democratic headquarters that they broke into were in the Watergate Office complex. It wasn't called Watergate because it was a serious incident.

    Yes, I am completely aware of that. I phrased my statement incorrectly. I was just trying to say that the suffix is used far too often nowadays, and it's pretty much been rendered ineffective in terms of highlighting a scandal or what not.

    I'm from Kilkenny where there's a theatre called the Watergate. I was very, very confused a couple of years ago when the scandal showed up again with the revealing of the 'whistleblower' and all these mentions of a theatre just down the road from our house. That incident was another confusing one because the pseudonym of the informant was 'Deep Throat' and I was just after coming back from a school trip to Germany where half the class bought "Deep Throat", the film :pac:.

    I never thought I'd be talking about this in the soccer forum of all places.


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