Pizza now fruit....

opinion guy

So US congress has decided pizza is now a fruit.....

http://www.thejournal.ie/us-congress-rules-that-pizza-is-a-vegetable-282033-Nov2011/?utm_source=shortlink

Words fail me:eek:

Frank Bullitt

Saw this earlier, they are a scary people.

Jamie Oliver had to deal with a lot of this crap when he did that show in the states, they class bread as a veg as well!!!

MyKeyG

Cool now I can have five pizzas a day as well as three sensible meals and the weight will ROLL off me.

aquarian_fire

I saw that earlier on. It's actually mad. There's not even enough tomato in the pizza sauce to count as a fruit.

jmvane15

Awesome! Easy vegetable servings!

paulmclaughlin

opinion guy wrote: »

So US congress has decided pizza is now a fruit.....

aquarian_fire wrote: »

There's not even enough tomato in the pizza sauce to count as a fruit.

VEGETABLE!

gymsoldier

"Hello Dominos Vegetables, can I take you're order please?"

O.P.H

paulmclaughlin wrote: »

VEGETABLE!

RandolphEsq

Mellor

I think everyone is just being reactionary for the sake of it.

If there is the same amount of veg/fruit on a pizza as one serving, then why shouldn't it count? It's meals that contain vegetables, not pizza is a vegetable.
It doesn't mean that all the salt, fat, carbs are ignored. And that it is a "health food. It's just a bad food that has a serve of veg.

MyKeyG

Mellor wrote: »

I think everyone is just being reactionary for the sake of it.

If there is the same amount of veg/fruit on a pizza as one serving, then why shouldn't it count? It's meals that contain vegetables, not pizza is a vegetable.
It doesn't mean that all the salt, fat, carbs are ignored. And that it is a "health food. It's just a bad food that has a serve of veg.

I think everyone is being reactionary for the sake of a laugh in fairness.

Mellor

Some posts were joking, like yours, but others were probably serious.
Besides, I was talking more about the article and its shock piece.
It will be on Joe Duffy next.

opinion guy

Mellor wrote: »

I think everyone is just being reactionary for the sake of it.

If there is the same amount of veg/fruit on a pizza as one serving, then why shouldn't it count? It's meals that contain vegetables, not pizza is a vegetable.
It doesn't mean that all the salt, fat, carbs are ignored. And that it is a "health food. It's just a bad food that has a serve of veg.

Well when they are manipulating the laws to keep junk food on the school menus I think that is kind of a problem no ?

g'em

Mellor wrote: »

Some posts were joking, like yours, but others were probably serious.
Besides, I was talking more about the article and its shock piece.
It will be on Joe Duffy next.

I don't think people here aren't being reactionary for the sake of it. I mean really, pizza being listed as a vegetable? It's beyond ludicrous, and you just *know* that there ARE people out there who will use it as another delusionary scapegoat. But you're right, the media are probably just all over it because they know that it makes for great Joe Duffy sensationalism.

You know and I know that one serving of veg on a pizza does not a healthy food make, and you and I know that one pizza in a week full of clean eating is not going to undo all the hard work, but it's the message that this sends out that's so frustrating - the message to all the people who don't know better. It's just disappointing.

TerrorFirmer

The point was that it counts towards the 5 a day, not that Pizza is inherently a fruit...obviously. And yes, of course, it's not healthy, and it's nothing to do with carbs/fats/etc - just that Pizza is deemed acceptable to count as one of the five recommended a day, which other fast foods would not. Don't really see the problem....

Cookie_Monster

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

The point was that it counts towards the 5 a day, not that Pizza is inherently a fruit...obviously.

so 5 pizzas a day is ok too
:pac:

al28283

It's not the pizza, it's the sauce on a pizza.

TerrorFirmer

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

so 5 pizzas a day is ok too
:pac:

If you're going to eat that much, better 5 pizzas than 5 McDonalds, or Chinese Takeaways, yup.

opinion guy

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

If you're going to eat that much, better 5 pizzas than 5 McDonalds, or Chinese Takeaways, yup.

But burgers often have tomatoes in them. So does alot of chinese/indian takeaway - often other veggies too.

Surely they should count as one of your 5 a day as well then by extension of your logic ??

du Maurier

Olenska thinks it's a vegetable..

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056454736

TerrorFirmer

opinion guy wrote: »

But burgers often have tomatoes in them. So does alot of chinese/indian takeaway - often other veggies too.

Surely they should count as one of your 5 a day as well then by extension of your logic ??

Yes that's actually true. When I said Chinese takeaway I was thinking about the crap from there like 3-in-1s, chicken balls, prawn crackers, that sort of thing. But yes, depending on what you're eating, it would be entirely possible to have it count towards your 5 a day regardless of the overall nutritional value of the food i.e horrifically unhealthy.

CardinalJ

It's such a warped logic. If I fry a battered apple covered in toffee I can claim I'm getting one of my 5 a day but the negatives far outweigh the positives.

It's just mind boggling.

CardinalJ

And I'm now craving a pizza at 10.14!!

I HATE YOU AMERICA!!!!!

Oryx

I'm with g'em on the message this sends. Or multiple messages.

1. Its ok to have pizza as its a healthy food.
2. Processed tomato sauce is as healthy as a fresh tomato.
3. Adding 'fruit' to something bad for you cancels out the bad.
3. American politicians, who lead one of the most powerful nations in the world, are idiots who put political gameplaying above the wellbeing of the people they represent.
4. Never let the facts get in the way of a money making/saving scheme.
5. Yet again, a government get to dictate what people do, even when they are clearly wrong.

judas101

From atricle: 'politicians had been lobbied heavily by the frozen food industry who didn’t want to see a major revenue stream cut off given how often pizza is found on the menus of school canteens in the US.'

what a load of horse ****

d'Oracle

I'm totally having Pizza for PWO tonight.

hardCopy

CardinalJ wrote: »

And I'm now craving a pizza at 10.14!!

I HATE YOU AMERICA!!!!!

And I'm craving a battered toffee apple!

I once had a great row with my girlfriend, trying to convince her that potato is a vegetable. She's gonna love this.

Brian?

Not to get too serious and have a cat picture aimed at me, but this is a disgrace. The sole reason for this is that the wheat lobby is so poweful in Washington. They lobby hard enough, with so much money they always get their way. It's the wheat lobby that basically sets the food guidlines for schools etc., no wonder they have a problem with obseity and diabetes.

RacoonQueen

This is like the way I try to convince myself that apple pie is healthy.

Oryx

RacoonQueen wrote: »

This is like the way I try to convince myself that apple pie is healthy.

Or the way you just told me that chilli coated peanuts are good for me. (Do they cancel out the Bulmers, too?):p

Dathai

Problem?

http://i.imgur.com/nU3Cq.jpg

Oryx

That reminds me of the April fool the bbc played years ago when they convinced their viewers that the spaghetti trees in Italy had a bumper crop and they showed footage of people harvesting spaghetti.

aquarian_fire

I think we should start lobbying to get ketchup to count as 1 of our 5 a day. Sure, why not? :P

rubadub

Mellor wrote: »

If there is the same amount of veg/fruit on a pizza as one serving, then why shouldn't it count? It's meals that contain vegetables, not pizza is a vegetable.

Yeah, nobody in congress stood up and specifically declared pizza a vegetable, just like nobody in the WHO declared some fit rugby player to be obese due to their definition of BMI. I remember people going mental who heard I would gladly eat pizza for breakfast, but when I broke it down to basically being toast & cheese, tomato & sausage it was suddenly perfectly acceptable...

The only thing I found interesting was they consider tomato to be a vegetable.

RacoonQueen

Oryx wrote: »

Or the way you just told me that chilli coated peanuts are good for me. (Do they cancel out the Bulmers, too?):p

Bulmers is made of fruit...

Oryx

RacoonQueen wrote: »

Bulmers is made of fruit...

In that case I'm halfway through my five a day.

RacoonQueen

Oryx wrote: »

In that case I'm halfway through my five a day.

Don't post your DQS in your log.

MyKeyG

My poo had sweetcorn in it. Does that make it a vegetable?:D

JayRoc

briankeating wrote: »

It's the wheat lobby that basically sets the food guidlines for schools etc., no wonder they have a problem with obseity and diabetes.

Yes, and no.
The main reason they have a problem
is that they eat way too ****ing much of it.

Brian?

JayRoc wrote: »

Yes, and no.
The main reason they have a problem
is that they eat way too ****ing much of it.

I agree, what I was saying is that the reason they eat too much wheat is that the wheat lobby gets the government to produce guidlines that make eating wheat the healthy option.

The above is a terribly written statement. It's early.

Mellor

opinion guy wrote: »

Well when they are manipulating the laws to keep junk food on the school menus I think that is kind of a problem no ?

I understand what people are sayign about the "message" but school menus are terrible everywhere. Banning pizza would not change that. A greesy burger with fries and veg on the side would jsut fill its place.
The law that school menus have to have a serving of fruit/veg is completely pointless.

If they actualy cared about the meals in schools then the law should be that school dinners should be healthy.
Heathly could be defined as having adequate amount of carbs, protein, healthy fats where possible, no trans fats. Low salt. A variety of vitamins etc.

But they don't care. Not really. This is just there some some politician can be portrayed as being behind the "reform" when the run for congress in 5 years.

Yeah Buddy

Absolute disgrace Joe, shocking stuff altogether

BigDuffman

Italians like pizza, Mafia are Italian, Mafia influenced this lobby group! Get the Irish American crims over there to re-classify guinness as a cereal on account of the barley and hops..! Guinness for all!